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dxAce June 1st 08 03:19 PM

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Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:
dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...
D Peter Maus wrote:
Apparently, they finally succeeded in achieving that goal.
I'll have to check the shortwave relays next week to see if Rush is
still
on. I
recall the push to at least get him off, seemingly in contrast to
what
the
troops
wanted.

How many of the troops are over 45 or 50? There are very few talk
listeners
(of the WLS / WJR / WGN type) under that age, so it makes sense to
look
for
programming the bulk of the armed forces would enjoy, not just
somebody
who
has been in long enough to make light bird or above.
Or maybe the troops just like Rush?

Isn't it amazing that never occurs to programmers?

When nearly nobody in the 18-34 demo in the US listens to Rush or any
other
political talker, why would they listen when abroad?

Maybe they want the truth from home.




He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different. They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead
to the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest
George Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big
with military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.

Drop Gleason into a Marine base in-country and he'd get a dose of
reality he assiduously avoids in his current position.


You talk tough for a old fart safely behind a desk. Here's my old fart
take:

Our fighters in the Iraq ****-hole are fighting for each other. (That's
a period).

I'd rather fight the enemy here, rather than over there.


You're not up to it, Rickets.



m II June 1st 08 03:22 PM

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dxAce wrote:

You're not up to it, Rickets.



And you are? Tell us about all the medications you're on.



mike


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dxAce June 1st 08 03:24 PM

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m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

You're not up to it, Rickets.


And you are?


You bet!

Tell us about all the medications you're on.


Heck, I'd rather spend my time telling you that you're a dumbass Canuck!



D Peter Maus June 1st 08 03:26 PM

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Dave wrote:


You talk tough for a old fart safely behind a desk.



Your assumptions are amusing. But you don't know what you're talking
about.



m II June 1st 08 03:29 PM

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dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

You're not up to it, Rickets.

And you are?


You bet!

Tell us about all the medications you're on.


Heck, I'd rather spend my time telling you that you're a dumbass Canuck!


Your physical condition is so bad that you have a difficult time getting
out of the door. Why lie about it?


mike


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dxAce June 1st 08 03:31 PM

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m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

You're not up to it, Rickets.
And you are?


You bet!

Tell us about all the medications you're on.


Heck, I'd rather spend my time telling you that you're a dumbass Canuck!


Your physical condition is so bad that you have a difficult time getting
out of the door.


I get out the door just fine.

Why lie about it?


I'm not. You are indeed a dumbass Canuck.



Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 03:36 PM

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D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:


You talk tough for a old fart safely behind a desk.



Your assumptions are amusing. But you don't know what you're talking
about.


I don't have to. I'm not attempting to mis-characterize the soldiers as
some kind apple-pie GI Joes.

Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 03:37 PM

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Bart Bailey wrote:
In posted on
Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:14:36 -0700, Dave wrote: Begin

I'd rather fight the enemy here, rather than over there.


If the enemy here had been fought successfully,
we might not have created so many enemies there.


I like that, I think.

Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 03:39 PM

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m II wrote:
dxAce wrote:
m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

You're not up to it, Rickets.
And you are?

You bet!

Tell us about all the medications you're on.

Heck, I'd rather spend my time telling you that you're a dumbass Canuck!


Your physical condition is so bad that you have a difficult time getting
out of the door. Why lie about it?


mike


I have to climb ladders and rigging sometimes. If I couldn't do that
I'd be severely limited in my ability to rake in the bongos.

Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 03:51 PM

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D Peter Maus wrote:

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big
with military, as a whole, regardless of demography.


A Rush Limbaugh listener is the farthest thing from a true conservative.

If the Iraq vets are so pro-right wing, why doesn't Mr. mBush want
them to vote?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Vetera...rans_0410.html

dxAce June 1st 08 04:21 PM

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Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big
with military, as a whole, regardless of demography.


A Rush Limbaugh listener is the farthest thing from a true conservative.

If the Iraq vets are so pro-right wing, why doesn't Mr. mBush want
them to vote?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Vetera...rans_0410.html


Where in the article does it say that "Mr. mBush" doesn't want them to vote?


D Peter Maus June 1st 08 04:37 PM

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Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:


You talk tough for a old fart safely behind a desk.



Your assumptions are amusing. But you don't know what you're talking
about.


I don't have to. I'm not attempting to mis-characterize the soldiers as
some kind apple-pie GI Joes.



No one else is, either. So, again, you don't know what you're
talking about.


dxAce June 1st 08 04:39 PM

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dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big
with military, as a whole, regardless of demography.


A Rush Limbaugh listener is the farthest thing from a true conservative.

If the Iraq vets are so pro-right wing, why doesn't Mr. mBush want
them to vote?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Vetera...rans_0410.html


Where in the article does it say that "Mr. mBush" doesn't want them to vote?


Also, I don't see anything there that would indicate that Ms. Feinstein or Mr. Kerry
were going to volunteer some time registering some of the Vets.

So, perhaps Ms. Feinstein and Mr. Kerry don't want them to vote either.



D Peter Maus June 1st 08 05:04 PM

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Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big
with military, as a whole, regardless of demography.


A Rush Limbaugh listener is the farthest thing from a true conservative.


And Michael Tilson-Thomas' interpretation of Rhapsody in Blue is
nowhere near what Gershwin intended.

Nonetheless Tilson-Thomas has a huge following among Gershwin fans.




We're not talking about ideological minutiae. We're talking about
listening content.

My statement stands.

dave June 1st 08 06:21 PM

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dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big
with military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

A Rush Limbaugh listener is the farthest thing from a true conservative.

If the Iraq vets are so pro-right wing, why doesn't Mr. mBush want
them to vote?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Vetera...rans_0410.html


Where in the article does it say that "Mr. mBush" doesn't want them to vote?

Mr. mBush is the head of the branch of government that runs both the
Departments of Veterans' Affairs and of Defense.

http://www.washlaw.edu/doclaw/orgchart/mainog.html


dxAce June 1st 08 06:24 PM

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dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big
with military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

A Rush Limbaugh listener is the farthest thing from a true conservative.

If the Iraq vets are so pro-right wing, why doesn't Mr. mBush want
them to vote?

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Vetera...rans_0410.html


Where in the article does it say that "Mr. mBush" doesn't want them to vote?

Mr. mBush is the head of the branch of government that runs both the
Departments of Veterans' Affairs and of Defense.

http://www.washlaw.edu/doclaw/orgchart/mainog.html


You're as evasive as our resident faux Hispanic, 'Eduardo'.



Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 06:27 PM

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D Peter Maus wrote:

And Michael Tilson-Thomas' interpretation of Rhapsody in Blue is
nowhere near what Gershwin intended.

???

You really are an old fart.

D Peter Maus June 1st 08 06:28 PM

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Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

And Michael Tilson-Thomas' interpretation of Rhapsody in Blue is
nowhere near what Gershwin intended.

???

You really are an old fart.




Yes. Andrea Corr said the same thing.


Anthing else?



David Eduardo[_4_] June 1st 08 06:31 PM

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message

Or maybe the troops just like Rush?


Isn't it amazing that never occurs to programmers?


When nearly nobody in the 18-34 demo in the US listens to Rush or any
other
political talker, why would they listen when abroad?


Maybe they want the truth from home.



From Limbaugh? That's an entertainment program, not a news show.



David Eduardo[_4_] June 1st 08 06:35 PM

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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message



You're contradicting yourself, again. If they're not listening, they
can't be calling.


"Youngest demos" for talk is generally 35-44.




Nice evasion.


Nope. Truth. When a format is typically 25+, the young part is 35-54.




Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 06:36 PM

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dxAce wrote:

Mr. mBush is the head of the branch of government that runs both the
Departments of Veterans' Affairs and of Defense.

http://www.washlaw.edu/doclaw/orgchart/mainog.html


You're as evasive as our resident faux Hispanic, 'Eduardo'.

And you continue to cling tenuously to a failed narrative. I dare you
to go 24 hours without listening to WABC (or any other Limbaugh/Hannity
venom spewer).

dxAce June 1st 08 06:37 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message

Or maybe the troops just like Rush?


Isn't it amazing that never occurs to programmers?


When nearly nobody in the 18-34 demo in the US listens to Rush or any
other
political talker, why would they listen when abroad?


Maybe they want the truth from home.



From Limbaugh? That's an entertainment program, not a news show.


Sure does contain a lot of news, and current events, Mr. Faux Hispanic!



dxAce June 1st 08 06:38 PM

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Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Mr. mBush is the head of the branch of government that runs both the
Departments of Veterans' Affairs and of Defense.

http://www.washlaw.edu/doclaw/orgchart/mainog.html


You're as evasive as our resident faux Hispanic, 'Eduardo'.

And you continue to cling tenuously to a failed narrative. I dare you
to go 24 hours without listening to WABC (or any other Limbaugh/Hannity
venom spewer).


I dare you to pull your head out of your ass and smell the fresh air!



David Eduardo[_4_] June 1st 08 06:39 PM

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"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:

He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different. They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead to
the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest George
Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big with
military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.


As past part of a comittee to get two AFRTS stations in Puerto Rico closed
(they were) I find that statement disingenuous. Very often, the AFRTS
offerings seem demographically inappropriate and way removed from the tastes
of the average recruit.

Drop Gleason into a Marine base in-country and he'd get a dose of
reality he assiduously avoids in his current position.


If you were to go there, you would find little use of AFRTS radio, and lots
of iPods and MP3 players.



dxAce June 1st 08 06:43 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:

He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different. They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead to
the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest George
Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big with
military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.


As past part of a comittee to get two AFRTS stations in Puerto Rico closed
(they were) I find that statement disingenuous. Very often, the AFRTS
offerings seem demographically inappropriate and way removed from the tastes
of the average recruit.

Drop Gleason into a Marine base in-country and he'd get a dose of
reality he assiduously avoids in his current position.


If you were to go there, you would find little use of AFRTS radio, and lots
of iPods and MP3 players.


Still think it would be fun to drop your sorry ass off somewhere!



D Peter Maus June 1st 08 06:43 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...

David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
Or maybe the troops just like Rush?

Isn't it amazing that never occurs to programmers?

When nearly nobody in the 18-34 demo in the US listens to Rush or any
other
political talker, why would they listen when abroad?

Maybe they want the truth from home.



From Limbaugh? That's an entertainment program, not a news show.




Truth is not exclusive to News. Many times it's anathema.


D Peter Maus June 1st 08 06:43 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message


You're contradicting yourself, again. If they're not listening, they
can't be calling.
"Youngest demos" for talk is generally 35-44.



Nice evasion.


Nope. Truth. When a format is typically 25+, the young part is 35-54.




You still evade the point, David.


D Peter Maus June 1st 08 06:44 PM

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dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Mr. mBush is the head of the branch of government that runs both the
Departments of Veterans' Affairs and of Defense.

http://www.washlaw.edu/doclaw/orgchart/mainog.html
You're as evasive as our resident faux Hispanic, 'Eduardo'.

And you continue to cling tenuously to a failed narrative. I dare you
to go 24 hours without listening to WABC (or any other Limbaugh/Hannity
venom spewer).


I dare you to pull your head out of your ass and smell the fresh air!



It would kill him.


D Peter Maus June 1st 08 06:46 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:
He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different. They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead to
the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest George
Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big with
military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.


As past part of a comittee to get two AFRTS stations in Puerto Rico closed
(they were) I find that statement disingenuous. Very often, the AFRTS
offerings seem demographically inappropriate and way removed from the tastes
of the average recruit.
Drop Gleason into a Marine base in-country and he'd get a dose of
reality he assiduously avoids in his current position.


If you were to go there, you would find little use of AFRTS radio, and lots
of iPods and MP3 players.


Many containing Limbaugh and Hannit podcasts.

You're applying hometown demography to a unique psychographic makeup.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.




Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 07:02 PM

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dxAce wrote:


Sure does contain a lot of news, and current events, Mr. Faux Hispanic!


Such as what?

Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 07:03 PM

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dxAce wrote:

Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Mr. mBush is the head of the branch of government that runs both the
Departments of Veterans' Affairs and of Defense.

http://www.washlaw.edu/doclaw/orgchart/mainog.html
You're as evasive as our resident faux Hispanic, 'Eduardo'.

And you continue to cling tenuously to a failed narrative. I dare you
to go 24 hours without listening to WABC (or any other Limbaugh/Hannity
venom spewer).


I dare you to pull your head out of your ass and smell the fresh air!


That's not fresh air; that's the dead carp you saw the other day.

dxAce June 1st 08 07:03 PM

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Dave wrote:

dxAce wrote:


Sure does contain a lot of news, and current events, Mr. Faux Hispanic!


Such as what?


Listen in and you might just find out. After you pull your head out of your ass,
of course.



Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 07:03 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:
"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:
He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different. They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead to
the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest George
Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big with
military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.


As past part of a comittee to get two AFRTS stations in Puerto Rico closed
(they were) I find that statement disingenuous. Very often, the AFRTS
offerings seem demographically inappropriate and way removed from the tastes
of the average recruit.
Drop Gleason into a Marine base in-country and he'd get a dose of
reality he assiduously avoids in his current position.


If you were to go there, you would find little use of AFRTS radio, and lots
of iPods and MP3 players.


And Worldspace for the BBC.

Dave[_15_] June 1st 08 07:06 PM

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D Peter Maus wrote:

Truth is not exclusive to News. Many times it's anathema.


The news isn't about truth; it's about facts.

dxAce June 1st 08 07:06 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:

He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different.


They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead to
the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest George
Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big with
military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.


As past part of a comittee to get two AFRTS stations in Puerto Rico closed
(they were) I find that statement disingenuous.


Why did you want them closed?

Wouldn't they let you pretend that you owned them?



D Peter Maus June 1st 08 07:07 PM

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Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

Truth is not exclusive to News. Many times it's anathema.


The news isn't about truth; it's about facts.



LOL!

NBC must LOVE you.



D Peter Maus June 1st 08 07:15 PM

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dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:
He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different.


They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead to
the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest George
Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big with
military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.

As past part of a comittee to get two AFRTS stations in Puerto Rico closed
(they were) I find that statement disingenuous.


Why did you want them closed?

Wouldn't they let you pretend that you owned them?



There's a lot of anti-military in this country. I live about 5
minutes from Great Lakes. It's shameful the way men and women in uniform
are treated in public, here.

I was behind a woman at Wal-Mart in Waukegan about 3 months ago. She
was clearly stocking up, and was burning up some serious time in the
checkout line. The guy behind me was grousing about it.

I noticed her ID on a lanyard around her neck. And asked if she was
Navy. She affirmed she was, and I thanked her for her service. You
should have heard the noise. From others in line. From others in
adjacent lines. The cashier had the good sense to be quiet, but was
clearly disamused.

The pride with which Gleason asserts his part in getting two AFRTS
stations closed only underscores the assertion sometime back that the
only thing we've ever heard him renounce is his citizenship.



dxAce June 1st 08 07:18 PM

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D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:
He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different.


They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead to
the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest George
Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big with
military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.
As past part of a comittee to get two AFRTS stations in Puerto Rico closed
(they were) I find that statement disingenuous.


Why did you want them closed?

Wouldn't they let you pretend that you owned them?



There's a lot of anti-military in this country. I live about 5
minutes from Great Lakes. It's shameful the way men and women in uniform
are treated in public, here.

I was behind a woman at Wal-Mart in Waukegan about 3 months ago. She
was clearly stocking up, and was burning up some serious time in the
checkout line. The guy behind me was grousing about it.

I noticed her ID on a lanyard around her neck. And asked if she was
Navy. She affirmed she was, and I thanked her for her service. You
should have heard the noise. From others in line. From others in
adjacent lines. The cashier had the good sense to be quiet, but was
clearly disamused.

The pride with which Gleason asserts his part in getting two AFRTS
stations closed only underscores the assertion sometime back that the
only thing we've ever heard him renounce is his citizenship.


Amen to that.

We've a ships reunion next year at or near Great Lakes, so perhaps I'll get down
that way.



D Peter Maus June 1st 08 07:38 PM

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dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:
He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different.
They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead to
the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest George
Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big with
military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.
As past part of a comittee to get two AFRTS stations in Puerto Rico closed
(they were) I find that statement disingenuous.
Why did you want them closed?

Wouldn't they let you pretend that you owned them?


There's a lot of anti-military in this country. I live about 5
minutes from Great Lakes. It's shameful the way men and women in uniform
are treated in public, here.

I was behind a woman at Wal-Mart in Waukegan about 3 months ago. She
was clearly stocking up, and was burning up some serious time in the
checkout line. The guy behind me was grousing about it.

I noticed her ID on a lanyard around her neck. And asked if she was
Navy. She affirmed she was, and I thanked her for her service. You
should have heard the noise. From others in line. From others in
adjacent lines. The cashier had the good sense to be quiet, but was
clearly disamused.

The pride with which Gleason asserts his part in getting two AFRTS
stations closed only underscores the assertion sometime back that the
only thing we've ever heard him renounce is his citizenship.


Amen to that.

We've a ships reunion next year at or near Great Lakes, so perhaps I'll get down
that way.


Do.


dxAce June 1st 08 07:41 PM

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D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"D Peter Maus" wrote in message
...
dxAce wrote:
He doesn't get it, Steve.

Consider that there are a number of things that are not like things at
home. One is that the listener him/herself is different.
They're
committed. They're focussed. They're trained. They've volunteered to
serve. They're politically active at the most basic level. They're less
concerned about the fluff that dominates the evening news than they are
defending the fundamental freedoms that permit the behaviours that lead to
the fluff that dominates the evening news.

That takes them off most squares of the psychographic grid. Hometown
demography doesn't apply. They're a different type of people with
listening tastes and habits that reflect a different type of lifestyle.

Another consideration is that there are dramatically fewer choices for
listening in theatre. Unlike you and me, who have a dial full of
selections, troops in theatre have a fraction of the offerings. They
listen, as you say, for fresh truths from home. Not for the latest George
Michael release.

And politically, they tend to a more conservative path. Rush is big with
military, as a whole, regardless of demography.

Programming AFN is not like programming WKSC.
As past part of a comittee to get two AFRTS stations in Puerto Rico closed
(they were) I find that statement disingenuous.
Why did you want them closed?

Wouldn't they let you pretend that you owned them?


There's a lot of anti-military in this country. I live about 5
minutes from Great Lakes. It's shameful the way men and women in uniform
are treated in public, here.

I was behind a woman at Wal-Mart in Waukegan about 3 months ago. She
was clearly stocking up, and was burning up some serious time in the
checkout line. The guy behind me was grousing about it.

I noticed her ID on a lanyard around her neck. And asked if she was
Navy. She affirmed she was, and I thanked her for her service. You
should have heard the noise. From others in line. From others in
adjacent lines. The cashier had the good sense to be quiet, but was
clearly disamused.

The pride with which Gleason asserts his part in getting two AFRTS
stations closed only underscores the assertion sometime back that the
only thing we've ever heard him renounce is his citizenship.


Amen to that.

We've a ships reunion next year at or near Great Lakes, so perhaps I'll get down
that way.


Do.


I certainly hope to do so. Been 30 years or more since I saw a lot of those guys.




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