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Mexico Authorizes Transition to HD Radio(TM) Broadcasting for Stations
Within 320 Kilometers of Country's Northern Border with the U.S.

May 21, 2008 7:00 AM EDT

COLUMBIA, Md., May 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Mexico's Federal
Telecommunications Commission (CoFeTel) announced last week that it is
authorizing radio stations within 320 kilometers (200 miles) from its
border with the United States to begin transmitting with digital HD
Radio technology.

In an official statement, the CoFeTel said: "Que tomando en cuenta el
grado de desarrollo e implementacion del sistema IBOC en los Estados
Unidos de America, se requiere que Mexico instrumente acciones
decisivas, para que los concesionarios y permisionarios de
radiodifusion sonora mexicanos ubicados en la zona de 320 kilometros
dentro de la frontera norte de Mexico, puedan realizar sus
transmisiones en igualdad de condiciones tecnologicas, en beneficio de
la calidad del servicio que proporcionan al publico radioescucha."

The translation is: "Considering the extent of the development and
implementation of the IBOC system in the United States of America,
Mexico is required to take decisive action so that [the country's AM
and FM radio stations] in the zone located within 320 kilometers of
the northern border of Mexico can transmit at the same technological
level so that they can provide the benefits of quality service to the
radio listening public." It went on to state that stations that want
to transmit with the IBOC (HD Radio) system must request authorization
from CoFeTel and must commit to assisting the commission in studying
the technology.

"We're deeply grateful to the Mexican broadcasting industry for its
decision to join the HD Radio phenomenon," said Bob Struble, President
and CEO of iBiquity Digital, the developer of HD Radio technology. "As
the outstanding success we're seeing in the United States is mirrored
elsewhere in the world, more and more countries will reap the benefits
of this technology's efficient use of spectrum to bring very high-
quality audio and data to consumers."

SOURCE iBiquity Digital

http://tinyurl.com/5tvwf8

What this translates to is that Mexico is jamming back. Of course
Struble, aka. The Jackal Faced Dog, is full of his usual bull****.
Yea, the HD transition has stalled, especially doesn't work on AM,
also jams on FM, HD radios aren't selling, and especially doesn't work
in moving vehicles.
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On May 21, 7:33 am, gallant17 wrote:
Mexico Authorizes Transition to HD Radio(TM) Broadcasting for Stations
Within 320 Kilometers of Country's Northern Border with the U.S.

May 21, 2008 7:00 AM EDT

COLUMBIA, Md., May 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Mexico's Federal
Telecommunications Commission (CoFeTel) announced last week that it is
authorizing radio stations within 320 kilometers (200 miles) from its
border with the United States to begin transmitting with digital HD
Radio technology.

In an official statement, the CoFeTel said: "Que tomando en cuenta el
grado de desarrollo e implementacion del sistema IBOC en los Estados
Unidos de America, se requiere que Mexico instrumente acciones
decisivas, para que los concesionarios y permisionarios de
radiodifusion sonora mexicanos ubicados en la zona de 320 kilometros
dentro de la frontera norte de Mexico, puedan realizar sus
transmisiones en igualdad de condiciones tecnologicas, en beneficio de
la calidad del servicio que proporcionan al publico radioescucha."

The translation is: "Considering the extent of the development and
implementation of the IBOC system in the United States of America,
Mexico is required to take decisive action so that [the country's AM
and FM radio stations] in the zone located within 320 kilometers of
the northern border of Mexico can transmit at the same technological
level so that they can provide the benefits of quality service to the
radio listening public." It went on to state that stations that want
to transmit with the IBOC (HD Radio) system must request authorization
from CoFeTel and must commit to assisting the commission in studying
the technology.

"We're deeply grateful to the Mexican broadcasting industry for its
decision to join the HD Radio phenomenon," said Bob Struble, President
and CEO of iBiquity Digital, the developer of HD Radio technology. "As
the outstanding success we're seeing in the United States is mirrored
elsewhere in the world, more and more countries will reap the benefits
of this technology's efficient use of spectrum to bring very high-
quality audio and data to consumers."

SOURCE iBiquity Digital

http://tinyurl.com/5tvwf8

What this translates to is that Mexico is jamming back. Of course
Struble, aka. The Jackal Faced Dog, is full of his usual bull****.
Yea, the HD transition has stalled, especially doesn't work on AM,
also jams on FM, HD radios aren't selling, and especially doesn't work
in moving vehicles.


Mexico authorizing HD radio with 200 miles of the U.S. border isn't
significant. ibiquity lobbied the Mexican government heavily knowing
that if they could get them to commit it would look good . This is the
usual ibiquity inflationary spin.

Mexican Governmental corruption is universally known so any commitment
they make means little to the rest of the world. ibiquity knows this
but will spin it anyway.

Nice try Bob Stubble.
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"gallant17" wrote in message
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Struble, aka. The Jackal Faced Dog, is full of his usual bull****.
Yea, the HD transition has stalled, especially doesn't work on AM,
also jams on FM, HD radios aren't selling, and especially doesn't work
in moving vehicles.


It works beautifully in my moving vehicle. The best thing, in LA, is the
absence of multipath on FM and static on AM:


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"Rfburns" wrote in message
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Mexican Governmental corruption is universally known so any commitment
they make means little to the rest of the world. ibiquity knows this
but will spin it anyway.


Several hundred Brazilian stations have indicated they will go with HD
already. Since Brazil is likely to become an economy as great as that of the
US in the next half-Century, this is very significant for HD development.


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On Wed, 21 May 2008 04:33:55 -0700 (PDT), gallant17
wrote:

Yea, the HD transition has stalled, especially doesn't work on AM,
also jams on FM, HD radios aren't selling, and especially doesn't work
in moving vehicles.



I reply:

Your argument about IBOC not working in moving vehicles doesn't hold
up in my case.

I have a Ford audio system in my 2008 F-350 with the optional IBOC
add-on unit. I live midway between Cincinnati, Columbus, and Dayton
Ohio and receive consistant, quality IBOC reception from 820 in
Columbus, 700 in Cincinnati, 1360 in Cincinnati, and 610 in Columbus,
all which enhance the quality of the AM broadcasts, especially on the
NPR station on 820.

My QTH is between 40 and 60 miles from these AM stations and the IBOC
works just fine during the day. I find very few dropouts when moving
in my truck. At night, I've heard WBBM (780 kHz)'s IBOC. It's
really thrilling to hear high-fidelity AM DX.

I don't know about the commercial viability of IBOC, I'm just
reporting on my good results with IBOC reception using the Ford IBOC
radio. My Ford radio is also very good about filtering so adjacent
stations aren't badly affected by the IBOC "bleed-over" hash.

While I'd certainly welcome the return of AM Stereo (CQAM or Kahn)
over IBOC -- I have an old Sony SRF-100 that was a great AM Stereo
radio -- I certainly welcome the fact that IBOC does seem to work
okay, given the right equipment.



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On May 21, 10:40�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"gallant17" wrote in message

...

Struble, aka. The Jackal Faced Dog, is full of his usual bull****.
Yea, the HD transition has stalled, especially doesn't work on AM,
also jams on FM, HD radios aren't selling, and especially doesn't work
in moving vehicles.


It works beautifully in my moving vehicle. The best thing, in LA, is the
absence of multipath on FM and static on AM:


"Why the drop outs?"

"I just installed the jvc hdr1 hd radio in my accord. I have the
antenna that is in the rear window.. I recieve alot of the hd radio
stations, but I am also getting alot of drop outs in my reception...
then it takes up to 10 seconds, sometimes less, to get the music
back.... I searched for some kind of antenna amplifier, but no
deal...
is this normal for hd radio, do I need to buy a new antenna, if I am
receiving my regular stations fine? I am in NJ.. I get alot of the NJ
and NY hd stations which is the reason why I purchased it.... thanks
in advance..."

"HD1 should switch back to analog FM, this can be very very very
annoying if the volume level or timing is way off, but you should not
experience a dropout. HD2 and HD3 are subject to frequent dropouts
making their use in a moving vehicle more than annoying. Gerrrrr.
Just
who thought this was going to be a practical technology since most
people listen to radio in their moving vehicles? I don't experience
these issues with AM HD and it does sound 100 times better than
conventional reception on today's poor AM radios."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1022780
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On May 21, 10:43�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Rfburns" wrote in message

...

Mexican Governmental corruption is universally known so any commitment
they make means little to the rest of the world. �ibiquity knows this
but will spin it anyway.


Several hundred Brazilian stations have indicated they will go with HD
already. Since Brazil is likely to become an economy as great as that of the
US in the next half-Century, this is very significant for HD development.


Same thing will happen in Brazil - HD radios will not sell, so it is a
moot-point.
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On May 21, 10:12�am, Rfburns wrote:
On May 21, 7:33 am, gallant17 wrote:





Mexico Authorizes Transition to HD Radio(TM) Broadcasting for Stations
Within 320 Kilometers of Country's Northern Border with the U.S.


May 21, 2008 7:00 AM EDT


COLUMBIA, Md., May 21 /PRNewswire/ -- Mexico's Federal
Telecommunications Commission (CoFeTel) announced last week that it is
authorizing radio stations within 320 kilometers (200 miles) from its
border with the United States to begin transmitting with digital HD
Radio technology.


In an official statement, the CoFeTel said: "Que tomando en cuenta el
grado de desarrollo e implementacion del sistema IBOC en los Estados
Unidos de America, se requiere que Mexico instrumente acciones
decisivas, para que los concesionarios y permisionarios de
radiodifusion sonora mexicanos ubicados en la zona de 320 kilometros
dentro de la frontera norte de Mexico, puedan realizar sus
transmisiones en igualdad de condiciones tecnologicas, en beneficio de
la calidad del servicio que proporcionan al publico radioescucha."


The translation is: "Considering the extent of the development and
implementation of the IBOC system in the United States of America,
Mexico is required to take decisive action so that [the country's AM
and FM radio stations] in the zone located within 320 kilometers of
the northern border of Mexico can transmit at the same technological
level so that they can provide the benefits of quality service to the
radio listening public." It went on to state that stations that want
to transmit with the IBOC (HD Radio) system must request authorization
from CoFeTel and must commit to assisting the commission in studying
the technology.


"We're deeply grateful to the Mexican broadcasting industry for its
decision to join the HD Radio phenomenon," said Bob Struble, President
and CEO of iBiquity Digital, the developer of HD Radio technology. "As
the outstanding success we're seeing in the United States is mirrored
elsewhere in the world, more and more countries will reap the benefits
of this technology's efficient use of spectrum to bring very high-
quality audio and data to consumers."


SOURCE iBiquity Digital


http://tinyurl.com/5tvwf8


What this translates to is that Mexico is jamming back. Of course
Struble, aka. The Jackal Faced Dog, is full of his usual bull****.
Yea, the HD transition has stalled, especially doesn't work on AM,
also jams on FM, HD radios aren't selling, and especially doesn't work
in moving vehicles.


Mexico authorizing HD radio with 200 miles of the U.S. border isn't
significant. �ibiquity lobbied the Mexican government heavily knowing
that if they could get them to commit it would look good . This is the
usual ibiquity inflationary spin.

Mexican Governmental corruption is universally known so any commitment
they make means little to the rest of the world. �ibiquity knows this
but will spin it anyway.

Nice try Bob Stubble.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"U.S. - Mexico Telecommunication Agreements" 2004

"The United States and Mexico resolved a substantial AM radio
interference problem that had adversely affected millions of
Americans. As a result, the Mexican Ministry of Communications and
Transportation required four AM radio stations in the Mexican state of
Baja California to reduce power or otherwise bring their operations
into compliance with bilateral agreements governing AM broadcasts
along our common border. This has brought relief to the U.S.
broadcasting industry and some 29 million listeners who were affected
by the interference. For its part, the United States has pledged to
review its own radio licenses to ensure that U.S. stations do not
cause harmful interference inside Mexico."

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2004/33932.htm

Hmmmm... it seems that Mexico IS intentially installing the IBOC
jammers along its Northern Border, now that the crook Kevin Martin is
turning a blind-eye towards interference. Of course, Struble .aka. The
Jackal-Faced Dog, is putting a totally different spin on this
announcement.


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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"gallant17" wrote in message
...
Struble, aka. The Jackal Faced Dog, is full of his usual bull****.
Yea, the HD transition has stalled, especially doesn't work on AM,
also jams on FM, HD radios aren't selling, and especially doesn't work
in moving vehicles.


It works beautifully in my moving vehicle. The best thing, in LA, is the
absence of multipath on FM and static on AM:


We know the imaginary world you live in very well. The fact is IBOC
creates more problems in moving vehicles that stationary receivers for
the rest of us.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California
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Congratulations Telamon. You've just posted THREE off topic, insulting posts
in 39 minutes.

That sets an all time record.

It's time for you to reconsider your outlook on things, you certainly
can't go on this way.



"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"gallant17" wrote in message
...
Struble, aka. The Jackal Faced Dog, is full of his usual bull****.
Yea, the HD transition has stalled, especially doesn't work on AM,
also jams on FM, HD radios aren't selling, and especially doesn't work
in moving vehicles.


It works beautifully in my moving vehicle. The best thing, in LA, is the
absence of multipath on FM and static on AM:


We know the imaginary world you live in very well. The fact is IBOC
creates more problems in moving vehicles that stationary receivers for
the rest of us.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California




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