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Default Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"Rrrado Rn" wrote in message
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You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH
on
780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings.
KOH was never meant to reach Ventura.
Tell Telemon that.


Your model is flawed.
KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car.

And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill.


Then go join another newsgroup loser. If you don't care about the hobby
then what the hell are you doing here?

Faker.

You and your stupid sock puppets are a waste of time.



Brother, consider his response for a moment, and think about this....

When the tornados blew through Dallas/Ft Worth a few years ago, and
no one knew it, it was because those listening to the radios at the
time, were listening to voicetracked, automated stations that were
unmanned, because...well....profit, you know. Profitable stations survive.

So, the vast majority of listeners were tuned into their favorite
stations. These same listeners, conditioned for the last 30 years, and
trained to listen to 'the only station you'll ever need,' for important
information, especially weather. Hell, I do promos for 20 stations every
year about weather information...and to stay with W/Kxxx for all the
relevant noise...but I digress. These are the same stations that have
adjusted, if not overhauled their programming according to the results
of research that says that busy, productive adults who 1) will NOT
adjust their daily schedule to respond to 'forced listening' events just
because they're on their favorite radio station and 2) will NOT sit
through music/news/sports they don't want in order to hear one or two
minutes of information they DO want.

But, there's a weather emergency....so do broadcasters man the
unmanned stations with weather information? No. They put the information
on the news stations. Expecting listeners conditioned by 30 years of
catering to their desire not to be informed to tune in to the news
stations on the odd chance they'd hear the weather. Knowing by their own
internal and external research that listeners simply don't behave that way.

Interestingly enough, this information was on the News
stations....read that, the AM stations. The very stations that
broadcasters have openly admitted are not listened to after 7 pm. Wasn't
the word 'negligible' bandied about this very newsgroup in regard to
night time AM listening? Oh, yes...David used it himself. Negligible
listening after 7pm. Uh huh....

So, let's review....Storms are inbound. Listening is to the FM music
stations, which are unmanned. Emergency weather information is NOT on
the FM music stations where it had been previously found because there
is no staff to put it there. Emergency weather information is, however
put on stations that music listeners are already known not to switch
to...on the very stations that the broadcasters, themselves know and
admit are not listened to after 7pm.

And here comes David, saying, hey...we had the information on the
air. If they weren't listening that's not our problem. But next time,
we'll put announcements on the unmanned stations to tell the listeners
to switch over to the stations we already know they will NOT switch over
to... and we'll call that serving in the public interest. And still hit
out profit numbers....


Why would you be surprised that he lingers here to argue that what we
do is irrelevant, AND THE PROBLEM with radio, today.


Talking out of both sides of his mouth is a career for him.

You go back to your RX-340, and I'll go back to my RX-350, and we can
both join the rest of us here, who enjoy the hobby. While he ****es up
his rope.








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Default Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.

In article ,
"Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"Rrrado Rn" wrote in message
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You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH
on
780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings.
KOH was never meant to reach Ventura.

Tell Telemon that.


Your model is flawed.


KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car.


Where is KOH? I can't even find a listing for them on Radio-Locator.


They call themselves KOH but the call letters are KKOH. Reno, Nevada
50KW on 780KHz.

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Ventura, California
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Default Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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..
In article ,
dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"Rrrado Rn" wrote in message
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You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get
KOH
on
780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings.
KOH was never meant to reach Ventura.

Tell Telemon that.


Your model is flawed.

KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car.

And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill.


Then go join another newsgroup loser. If you don't care about the hobby
then what the hell are you doing here?


Listening to a nearby 50 kw AM with a 200 kw lobe in your direction is
hardly DX.


You know the response to this.

You and your stupid sock puppets are a waste of time.


You will be so kind as to identify the sock puppets, please. I did not know
I had any... although I do have the occasional mumbler idiot who posts using
a bad attempt at being me, on occasion, and then replies to himself.


And you also know the response to this one.

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Telamon
Ventura, California
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Default Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.



Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"Rrrado Rn" wrote in message
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You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH
on
780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings.
KOH was never meant to reach Ventura.

Tell Telemon that.


Your model is flawed.

KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car.


And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill.


Then go join another newsgroup loser. If you don't care about the hobby
then what the hell are you doing here?


That's a question that has certainly been posed in the past, not only here, but in
other radio groups throughout the years.

It is true that 'Eduardo' is not only persona non grata in Ecuador, but in other
areas as well.


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Default FYI : KKOH-AM 780 kHz Ain't a Clear Channel - What's a ClearChannel AM/MW Radio Station - Who Are the Clear Channel AM/MW Radio Stations

RHF wrote:


just setting the record straight ~ RHF


KKOH is Class B and has no secondary status. That being said, they
scream into SoCal after dark:

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Da...05396-2635.pdf


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Default Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"Rrrado Rn" wrote in message
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You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH
on
780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings.
KOH was never meant to reach Ventura.
Tell Telemon that.


Your model is flawed.

KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car.


And you are likely the only listener for 25 miles around. What a thrill.


You must have spent your whole life in the big city. When you press the
"seek" bar the radio doesn't look for "community of license"; it looks
for clean signals.
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Default Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.

A Brown wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
dave wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:
"Rrrado Rn" wrote in message
...
You have got to be kidding. For about two weeks I could not get KOH
on
780 until someone turned off their IBOC noise maker evenings.
KOH was never meant to reach Ventura.
Tell Telemon that.


Your model is flawed.

KOH comes in just fine evenings at home or in the car.


KOH was never meant to reach Ventura.



Tell it to God. Or whoever wrote the laws of physics.
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Default McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations : KBHK, KWG, KMJ, KERN, &KOH

RHF wrote:

McClatchy "Beeline" Radio Stations
"Gabby" the Bee - created by- Walt Disney
for McClatchy Broadcasting :
http://www.radioblvd.com/nevradiohist.htm
KBHK in Sacramento


.


KFBK, Sparky. Check out their co-linear antennas. Very cool.

(Just setting the record straight-**** you very much)
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Default Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.


"ASCII" wrote in message
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D Peter Maus wrote:
But, there's a weather emergency...


It's quite tiring to have news talk ten seventy on all the time,
with their high stress format and ubiquitous commercial messages,
but at the first sensation of an earthquake,
most people I know in SoCal instinctively tune to KNX


Not so. Probably most people under 35 to 40 and definitely those under 30
don't use AM and have little knowledge of what is on the band.

And in polls, KFWB gets more credit for post-quake coverage, but the big
winner is KFI simply because KFI has about triple or quadruple the regular
audience of KNX and is better known.


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Default Eduardo - fellow IBOC-shill diputes your claims about AM ratings.

ASCII wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
But, there's a weather emergency...


It's quite tiring to have news talk ten seventy on all the time,
with their high stress format and ubiquitous commercial messages,
but at the first sensation of an earthquake,
most people I know in SoCal instinctively tune to KNX



Apparently, there's been an abandonment of such branding response in
Dallas. No one heard the messages.


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