David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...
QSL'd (veried, for those in Glendale) here back in 1984, but indeed, get
'em
whilst you can.

Confirmations of reception for MW DXers, to this day, are called "veries" as
in "verifications" and not QSLs, althogh QSL can be used and is understood.

I started SWLing around 1961, got my first ham license in 1965, have been
around this newsgroup since 1990, and this is the very first mention of
such a term I have ever encountered.

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"clifto" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...
QSL'd (veried, for those in Glendale) here back in 1984, but indeed, get
'em
whilst you can.

Confirmations of reception for MW DXers, to this day, are called "veries"
as
in "verifications" and not QSLs, althogh QSL can be used and is
understood.

I started SWLing around 1961, got my first ham license in 1965, have been
around this newsgroup since 1990, and this is the very first mention of
such a term I have ever encountered.

You may have missed the fact I was referring to MW, not SW DXing.

I suggest you look at the National Radio Club or International Radio Club of
America page. Verifications for US MW DXers have been called veries for more
than half a century. MW DXers speak of their "verie count" and
"verifications received" and use "QSL" to a much lesser extent... since few
MW stations send QSL cards, and haven't since the 40's for the most part.

In fact, into the 50's many, many stations verified with EKKO stamps, not
QSL cards.

dxAce wrote:

Be on your way, pedant.


Why don't you lead by example?






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m II wrote:

dxAce wrote:

Be on your way, pedant.

Why don't you lead by example?

Aw heck, I was gonna leave that honour to you, a dumbass Canuck.

David Frackelton Gleason, still ranting as 'Eduardo', wrote:

"clifto" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...
QSL'd (veried, for those in Glendale) here back in 1984, but indeed, get
'em
whilst you can.

Confirmations of reception for MW DXers, to this day, are called "veries"
as
in "verifications" and not QSLs, althogh QSL can be used and is
understood.

I started SWLing around 1961, got my first ham license in 1965, have been
around this newsgroup since 1990, and this is the very first mention of
such a term I have ever encountered.

You may have missed the fact I was referring to MW, not SW DXing.

I suggest you look at the National Radio Club or International Radio Club of
America page. Verifications for US MW DXers have been called veries for more
than half a century. MW DXers speak of their "verie count" and
"verifications received" and use "QSL" to a much lesser extent... since few
MW stations send QSL cards, and haven't since the 40's for the most part.

In fact, into the 50's many, many stations verified with EKKO stamps, not
QSL cards.

A QSL (verie, for those in Glendale) can also be a letter!

Now be off and away, pedant.

On Jun 15, 8:03*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"clifto" wrote in message

...

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...
QSL'd (veried, for those in Glendale) here back in 1984, but indeed, get
'em
whilst you can.

Confirmations of reception for MW DXers, to this day, are called "veries"
as
in "verifications" and not QSLs, althogh QSL can be used and is
understood.

I started SWLing around 1961, got my first ham license in 1965, have been
around this newsgroup since 1990, and this is the very first mention of
such a term I have ever encountered.

You may have missed the fact I was referring to MW, not SW DXing.

- I suggest you look at the National Radio Club or
- International Radio Club of America page.
- Verifications for US MW DXers have been called veries
- for more than half a century.
- MW DXers speak of their "verie count" and "verifications received"
- and use "QSL" to a much lesser extent...
- since few MW stations send QSL cards,
- and haven't since the 40's for the most part.
-
- In fact, into the 50's many, many stations verified
- with EKKO stamps, not QSL cards.

OK - What's an EKKO Stamp ?
http://reviews.ebay.com/WHAT-apos-S-...00000000839026

Verified Reception Stamps -aka- EKKO Stamps
-by- Mike [EI2CL]
http://www.qsl.net/ei2cl/bcqslstamps/bcqsl2.htm

Radio Station Letterheads, QSL Cards and the EKKO Stamp
http://www.uv201.com/Misc_Pages/letterheads_6.htm

More than EKKO Stamps -by- Jon Pearkins
http://www.radiotribute.com/ekko/

Reception Stamps {AM/MW Radio Reception Report}
About - EKKO and Bryant Reception Stamps
http://www.560.com/reception_stamps.htm

RESEARCHING EKKO AND OTHER VERIFICATION STAMPS
http://www.mail-archive.com/hard-cor.../msg05635.html
-by- Glen Hauser

Radio Stamps {in General} -by- Bart Lee [xWPE2DLT]
http://www.antiqueradios.com/chrs/journal/stamps.html
http://archive.hard-core-dx.com/chan...83019811..html


the sound of radio echo's in my ear ~ RHF

RHF wrote:
On Jun 15, 8:03 pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"clifto" wrote in message

...

David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
...
QSL'd (veried, for those in Glendale) here back in 1984, but indeed, get
'em
whilst you can.
Confirmations of reception for MW DXers, to this day, are called "veries"
as
in "verifications" and not QSLs, althogh QSL can be used and is
understood.
I started SWLing around 1961, got my first ham license in 1965, have been
around this newsgroup since 1990, and this is the very first mention of
such a term I have ever encountered.
You may have missed the fact I was referring to MW, not SW DXing.

- I suggest you look at the National Radio Club or
- International Radio Club of America page.
- Verifications for US MW DXers have been called veries
- for more than half a century.
- MW DXers speak of their "verie count" and "verifications received"
- and use "QSL" to a much lesser extent...
- since few MW stations send QSL cards,
- and haven't since the 40's for the most part.
-
- In fact, into the 50's many, many stations verified
- with EKKO stamps, not QSL cards.

OK - What's an EKKO Stamp ?
http://reviews.ebay.com/WHAT-apos-S-...00000000839026

Verified Reception Stamps -aka- EKKO Stamps
-by- Mike [EI2CL]
http://www.qsl.net/ei2cl/bcqslstamps/bcqsl2.htm

Radio Station Letterheads, QSL Cards and the EKKO Stamp
http://www.uv201.com/Misc_Pages/letterheads_6.htm

More than EKKO Stamps -by- Jon Pearkins
http://www.radiotribute.com/ekko/

Reception Stamps {AM/MW Radio Reception Report}
About - EKKO and Bryant Reception Stamps
http://www.560.com/reception_stamps.htm

RESEARCHING EKKO AND OTHER VERIFICATION STAMPS
http://www.mail-archive.com/hard-cor.../msg05635.html
-by- Glen Hauser

Radio Stamps {in General} -by- Bart Lee [xWPE2DLT]
http://www.antiqueradios.com/chrs/journal/stamps.html
http://archive.hard-core-dx.com/chan...183019811.html


the sound of radio echo's in my ear ~ RHF
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Why not just record the station as proof you received it?

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...

Why not just record the station as proof you received it?

EKKO stamps ended after The War, and until the 60's, recording was
impractical. In fact, even in the 60's it was not a good idea... most
tapes
made in that era deteriorated rapidly. Most of my prized audio IDs did
not
make it into a more advanced media as the tape flaked... some nice ones
like
HCRE1 855 and CX28 were lost that way, although verified by letter or
card.

There were wire recorders. Very durable. You could also record on vinyl
records.

Have you checked the price of a wire recorder, in today's dollars? They cost
more than a car did when they were available.

And I don't recall any recorder that could record directly to vinyl. Radio
nets and some major stations had disk recorders that recorded onto
aluminum-center acetate disks, with very expensive heads that needed
constant replacement . Acetates were also used to make the master for record
pressing.

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
Why not just record the station as proof you received it?
EKKO stamps ended after The War, and until the 60's, recording was
impractical. In fact, even in the 60's it was not a good idea... most tapes
made in that era deteriorated rapidly. Most of my prized audio IDs did not
make it into a more advanced media as the tape flaked... some nice ones like
HCRE1 855 and CX28 were lost that way, although verified by letter or card.

There were wire recorders. Very durable. You could also record on vinyl
records.


I have a pair of Webster wire recorders. One, I bought at a local
junk shop and spent a year restoring. The other, I got from my
grandfather. Along with a rack of wire spools. Some dating as far back
as the Truman inauguration with some very cool recordings of shows like
the Sealtest Variety Theatre, Yours Truly, Johnny Dollar, Have Gun Will
Travel, and the Stan Freberg Show. I still find spools of wire at
antique shows, flea markets and junk shops. Always a bit of an adventure
to hear the audio.

Print-through is less of an issue, and the wire definitely doesn't
slough off magnetic material. But they are susceptible to elevated noise
from stray magnetic fields. So, storage environment is as important as
it is with tape.

I've also got a couple of disc recorders. And an armload of home-made
records. As well as some made in drug store recording kiosks. They're
not quite as archivally stable as they may seem. Many are not vinyl, but
acetate on an aluminum substrate. The acetate breaks down, becomes
brittle, often lifts from the substrate, or shrinks. And the low quality
vinyl used also tends to be less stable over time than that used more
recently.

I've spent a lot of hours recovering audio from wire and disc
recordings, for friends and colleagues. Sometimes, all you get is one
pass before there is too much damage to continue with the discs. And
magnetically contaminated wire will often develop a whining noise mixed
with the audio as it passes through the head. So a very great deal of
care is required when handling these recordings.

By far, the wire recordings are a lot easier to handle without damage.

Both may be more durable than tape, but they're not for casual
listening after long spans of time.

One careless pass, and the recording may be irretrievably lost.

David Eduardo wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
Why not just record the station as proof you received it?
EKKO stamps ended after The War, and until the 60's, recording was
impractical. In fact, even in the 60's it was not a good idea... most
tapes
made in that era deteriorated rapidly. Most of my prized audio IDs did
not
make it into a more advanced media as the tape flaked... some nice ones
like
HCRE1 855 and CX28 were lost that way, although verified by letter or
card.
There were wire recorders. Very durable. You could also record on vinyl
records.

Have you checked the price of a wire recorder, in today's dollars? They cost
more than a car did when they were available.


Oh, you're so full of ****, you're scary. You can pick up an Armour
type wire recorder in pristine condition at a high end antique shop for
less than $300.


I paid less than $50 for my last Webster, and recently passed on a
Silvertone AM/Phono/Wire recorder combo at a brick and mortar antique
shop for less than $200.

You can even get scammed on eBay for one for less than $300.


Geez, get a ****ing grip, Pancho.




And I don't recall any recorder that could record directly to vinyl. Radio
nets and some major stations had disk recorders that recorded onto
aluminum-center acetate disks, with very expensive heads that needed
constant replacement . Acetates were also used to make the master for record
pressing.



Home recorders recorded to an acetate, sometimes vinyl (higher end
blanks which were available later) coating on an aluminum substrate.
Those were also not expensive.

If you don't recall one, your experience is lacking.

Oooh...hold on, let me soak that up.

As for expense...again, not VERY expensive. I have one by Meissner
that was less than $130 new. And we had a pair of professional machines
at WEW. The heads didnt' wear out. Though they did fail if abused. The
recording styli, however, were regularly replaced.