(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

On Jul 2, 5:46*pm, m II wrote:
Dave wrote:
If petroleum is so essential to US national security then oil companies
should be run like public utilities, where the profits are returned to
the infrastructure or to the customers. *Nationalize the ****ers.

- Profits are more important than National Security.

Mike - Is this what passes for 'original' Canadian Thinking ?

"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life,_l...t_of_happiness
Now That -is- 'original' American Thinking ~ RHF

- In fact, wars are allowed and even encouraged
- to start in order to *Enhance* profits.
- mike

Mike -so- Is this what you are proposing as the
Canadian Economic Model for the 21st Century ?

it boggles the mind ~ RHF

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RHF wrote:

Mike - Is this what passes for 'original' Canadian Thinking ?

"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life,_l...t_of_happiness
Now That -is- 'original' American Thinking ~ RHF


John Locke was an Englishman, you dumb ****.

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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:46:36 -0700, RHF wrote:

On Jul 3, 6:15Â*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
Mike - Is this what passes for 'original' Canadian Thinking ?

"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Life,_liberty_and_the_pursuit_of_happiness
Now That -is- 'original' American Thinking ~ RHF

- John Locke was an Englishman, you dumb ****.

Dave - Tsimple things to consider :

Too Dumb - The phrase is based on the writings of John Locke, who
expressed a similar concept of "life, liberty, and estate (or
property)".

To Understand the F*ck Difference
"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
Written by Thomas Jefferson, the words in the Declaration were a
Departure from the Orthodoxy of Locke. { Inalienable Individual Human
Rights -over- Property Rights Granted by the Crown }

-ps- Until the United States Declaration of Independence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...f_Independence
Thomas Jefferson was and Englishman too.
.

Inherent rights is from Muslim common law, BTW.

(OT) : "Inherent Rights" of Muslims -versus- "Inalienable Rights" ofAll Americans
 

On Jul 3, 1:16*pm, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:46:36 -0700, RHF wrote:
On Jul 3, 6:15*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
Mike - Is this what passes for 'original' Canadian Thinking ?

"Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

Life,_liberty_and_the_pursuit_of_happiness





Now That -is- 'original' American Thinking ~ RHF

- John Locke was an Englishman, you dumb ****.

- - Dave - Two simple things to consider :
- -
- - Too Dumb - The phrase is based on the writings of John Locke,
- - who expressed a similar concept of "life, liberty, and estate (or
- - property)".
- -
- - To Understand the F*ck Difference
- - "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"
- - Written by Thomas Jefferson, the words in the Declaration
- - were a Departure from the Orthodoxy of Locke.
- - { Inalienable Individual Human Rights -over-
- - Property Rights Granted by the Crown }
- -
- - -ps- Until the United States Declaration of Independence
- - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...f_Independence
- - Thomas Jefferson was and Englishman too.

- Inherent rights is from Muslim common law, BTW.

Dave - D'Oh ! - Muslim "Inherent Rights" for the Faithfull
Follows of Islam {All 'others' Being Right-Less Infidels}

DO NO EQUAL "Inalienable Human Rights for All"
Regardless of Status, Wealth or Religion.

dang that was easy ~ RHF

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Dave -proclaims- There Is No Shortwage of Crude Oil
 

wrote:
On Jun 18, 3:15 pm, RHF wrote:
On Jun 18, 2:42 pm, Dave wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:05:33 -0700, wasatch wrote:
Mr. Bush is about to propose offshore oil drilling even though there is
plenty...
U.S. imports 70% that we use.
- - How to Find Gold : Dig For It!
- -
- - More Oil : Drill For It!

- There is no shortage of crude oil.

Dave that is Factually True
-but- That Vast Supply of Oil is still in the Ground.
-specifically- In the USA for the USA.
-ps- Plus a Whole Lot More Coal Too.

First - There is a Shortage of Getting the Oil
out of the Ground to meet the Demand.
-specifically- In the USA for the USA.
-solution- Drill for more Oil in the USA.

Second - There is a Shortage of Oil Refining
Capablility to meet the Demand.
-specifically- In the USA for the USA.
-solution- Build more Oil Refineries in the USA.

ALTERNATIVE : WALK ! -or- Go Nowhere.

facts are facts ~ RHF
.

Nonsense.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...risks0718.html

Solar thermal is already practical, as is nuclear and wind power. The
only problem is to overcome ignorant "drill happy" folks who want to
dump misery on future generations to selfishly avoid dealing with the
global warming emergency before it does massive damage to the economy
and the population of humans on earth.


Global temperatures were far higher in the 30's and 40's than they
are now. Highest global temperature on record was in 1934, according to
NOAA.

None of these catastrophes has taken place. Although the dust bowl of
the 30's and 40's does bear witness to the peak in temperatures in the
Plains.

We haven't seen dust bowl conditions since.

Global temperatures were so high in the 11th, 12th, and 13th
centuries that wine grapes, which are highly temperature sensitive,
were grown as far north as Scotland. In fact, the highly prized French
vineyards are comprised almost entirely of rootstock transplanted from
England and Scotland during this time.

When Leif Ericson landed in what is now Newfoundland in the early
11th century, he named it Vinland...in English that would be
Wineland...because of the expanse of wild grapes growing there. He found
the climate warm, with little frost through the winter, and grapes were
so plentiful and so widespread that one of his crewmates, a German named
Tyrker, wandered into the countryside and was found months later drunk
on his ass with wine he'd made from the local grapes.

All this, despite the fact that the last Hummer dealership has been
closed years before.

If you look at where wine is grown today, it's all moved south.
Gradually since the 14th century, virtually all wine grapes have been
transplanted to southernmore climes because the northern latitudes have
been growing too cold for grapes to grow there. Indicating that over the
centuries, the planet has cooled, not warmed.

It is you who needs to be informed.

Oil is not the problem. The problem is political.

"Nuclear" has been a dirty word since the movie 'The China Syndrome,'
a film often pointed to as a reference in debates where nuclear plants
were to be constructed. As a population, most of what is 'understood'
about nuclear energy production comes from that film.

Three Mile Island was the horror it was BECAUSE of the The China
Syndrome, when in fact, though a meltdown had occurred--some 8 feet of
reactor core was lost--the systems did precisely what they were supposed
to do, and shut the reactor down.

Odd, no one ever talks about THAT.

The problem is not the ignorant 'drill happy' folks.

The problem is the ignorant uneducated folks attempting to create a
panic based on short sight, and snapshot focus on a very narrow picture
of global events. And an overall suppression of understanding of energy
production by so-called professionals in education.

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D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:


Can't go on using oil for more than another 10 to 20 years due to the
global warming emergency proven by science, dumbass.

Nothing has been proven. There is considerable debate within the
scientific community about the validity of the claims made by the global
warming movement. To underscore the point, NOAA released figures this
past quarter that indicate global temperatures have dropped by .6 of a
degree in the last 12 months.

As for greenhouse gasses...well, let's look at that. Carbon dioxide
is only .04% of atmospheric content. Every living creature on the planet
emits CO2. Even plants, in the absence of sunlight. In the presence of
sunlight, they consume CO2 at a voracious rate.

Water, on the other hand, is the primary greehouse gas, with a known
impact on atmospheric temperature through cloud formation. And yet....no
one has even hinted at it's regulation.

A previous poster is correct....global warming is a socialist
movement. It's goals are precisely the same as the alarmists who set
their crosshairs on the oil industry when Rockefeller was building the
Standard Oil monopoly.

Michael Savage had a fellow on in the past week who outlined what the socialists
have done over the years to instill fear in the people. If I recall, there may
me a link on his site to the info, though I've not looked at it.

The guest made a point about what the left will do when the 'global warming'
craze subsides and that will be to manufacture another crisis and on and on it
will go.

(OT) : Energy for a Strong America and a Healthy US Economy
 

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:

Can't go on using oil for more than another 10 to 20 years due to the
global warming emergency proven by science, dumbass.
Nothing has been proven. There is considerable debate within the
scientific community about the validity of the claims made by the global
warming movement. To underscore the point, NOAA released figures this
past quarter that indicate global temperatures have dropped by .6 of a
degree in the last 12 months.

As for greenhouse gasses...well, let's look at that. Carbon dioxide
is only .04% of atmospheric content. Every living creature on the planet
emits CO2. Even plants, in the absence of sunlight. In the presence of
sunlight, they consume CO2 at a voracious rate.

Water, on the other hand, is the primary greehouse gas, with a known
impact on atmospheric temperature through cloud formation. And yet....no
one has even hinted at it's regulation.

A previous poster is correct....global warming is a socialist
movement. It's goals are precisely the same as the alarmists who set
their crosshairs on the oil industry when Rockefeller was building the
Standard Oil monopoly.

Michael Savage had a fellow on in the past week who outlined what the socialists
have done over the years to instill fear in the people. If I recall, there may
me a link on his site to the info, though I've not looked at it.

The guest made a point about what the left will do when the 'global warming'
craze subsides and that will be to manufacture another crisis and on and on it
will go.



It's what they've always done.

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D Peter Maus wrote:

dxAce wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:

wrote:

Can't go on using oil for more than another 10 to 20 years due to the
global warming emergency proven by science, dumbass.
Nothing has been proven. There is considerable debate within the
scientific community about the validity of the claims made by the global
warming movement. To underscore the point, NOAA released figures this
past quarter that indicate global temperatures have dropped by .6 of a
degree in the last 12 months.

As for greenhouse gasses...well, let's look at that. Carbon dioxide
is only .04% of atmospheric content. Every living creature on the planet
emits CO2. Even plants, in the absence of sunlight. In the presence of
sunlight, they consume CO2 at a voracious rate.

Water, on the other hand, is the primary greehouse gas, with a known
impact on atmospheric temperature through cloud formation. And yet....no
one has even hinted at it's regulation.

A previous poster is correct....global warming is a socialist
movement. It's goals are precisely the same as the alarmists who set
their crosshairs on the oil industry when Rockefeller was building the
Standard Oil monopoly.

Michael Savage had a fellow on in the past week who outlined what the socialists
have done over the years to instill fear in the people. If I recall, there may
me a link on his site to the info, though I've not looked at it.

The guest made a point about what the left will do when the 'global warming'
craze subsides and that will be to manufacture another crisis and on and on it
will go.



It's what they've always done.

Pretty darn amazing. I can't wait to find out what the next 'crisis' will be.

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dxAce wrote:

It's what they've always done.

Pretty darn amazing. I can't wait to find out what the next 'crisis' will be.

Well, Weapons of Mass Destruction has been already used. They even lied
to the UN about it. I'm sure they'll think of something. People will
believe ANYTHING.


mike


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