DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.
--

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.


Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.

As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull moment.
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of you
do not have LF band on your radio's.

DXing the AM MW band has lots to offer and the low "K" index of last
year was one of the best MW seasons ever recorded worldwide in
decades. I and other fella's got many superb catches over 10,000 miles
away and I assure you that is a great thrill and well worthwhile the
effort. And you don't need top of the range gear for that as my DX pal
Gary Deacon uses a pedestrian Yaesu FRG7 analogue radio and gets
amazing results that are the envy of his peers.

I took my very old Sony 7600D to Atlanta a few years ago when I
visited my son and the great MW DX had me absorbed for hours. I was
amazed at the long distance catches I was getting. Now the relatively
cheap "ultralights" like the Eton E100 have caught the hobbyists
attention and they are having great fun with these and getting the
most astonishing catches with them.

Recent catches here in Montagu have been encouraging after what was
turning out to be a bad winter season.
In the last few days on LF band I have got:
"LH" Kamuzu International, Lilongwe, VTR Vitoria Brazil and ASN
Ascencion Isl., all excellent NDB beacon far off DX catches.
Then on AM LF were 198 Algeria, 162 Allouis France and 234 Luxembourg.
AM MW band also kept me interested, although Montagu is a very poor
location for that, but you can still get interesting catches like:
A clutch of French stations: Toulose, Bordeaux, Strasbourg and Nice.
Then "Big L" from Holland and BBC 648 from Orfordness in the UK and
1530 R. Vaticano in Italy.

Then if that doesn't keep you amused and conditions are boring you can
always listen to the hams with the hope of picking up a very far off
catch. Something interesting always pops up there as well.

During the day when the DX is not running I listen to the
International broadcasters like BBC, VOA, DW, RCI and R. Nederland and
get interesting different angles on local and international news. I
like chasing the AFN stations as well as they are a challenging catch
with their far off locations and low power transmitters. Yesterday I
was thrilled to hear AFN Pearl Harbour on 6350 loud and clear - a very
far distant catch that is my antipodes and I usually only get their 10
mHz station.

So there is always something interesting on radio 24 hours of the day
to absorb and thrill you.
Have fun and good DX

John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa
South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s
Icom IC-7700, Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods
ERGO software
Drake SW8. Sangean 803A
Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100
Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270
Kiwa MW Loop.
http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx

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In article
,
wrote:

Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.


Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.

As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull moment.
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of you
do not have LF band on your radio's.

SNIP

The day time SW bands are weaker and poor much of the time but sunset to
sunrise the lower SW bands are very good consistently up to 41 meters.

31 meters is hit or miss from crummy to very good but is very good most
of the time. This has been the best surprise band for years now and it
pays to check this band most anytime day or night.

25, 22, and 19 meters have been generally weaker and the best times for
them are late afternoon to a couple of hours after sunset. Same thing
mornings where these bands generally pickup again a couple hours before
sunrise into early morning. These middle bands have been poor for me
most of the time middle mornings to the middle of the afternoon.

During the daytime 16 meters has been the best band where 19 meters is
hit or miss but poor a lot of the time. 19 meters is generally better
late afternoon and early mornings.

15 meters is almost always weak and this band generally does not have
much broadcast on it anyway.

13 meters has been really poor all the time and I rarely even look at
it. Only two pages of broadcasters on it to begin with in Passport.
There could be openings but with so few broadcasters on this band who
would know.

I can't think of the last time I even looked at 11 meters with zero
broadcasters listed on it in Passport.

The upshot is there is plenty going on in SW much of the time.

AMBCB has been very good but in the northern hemisphere the current
season has shorter nigh time listening hours this being summer.

The main problem with AMBCB has been the damned IBOC crapola and of
course the damned DRM crap on the lower SW bands nights is now crapping
up the currently best listening of the SW reception bands.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

Telamon wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.


Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.

As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull moment.
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of you
do not have LF band on your radio's.

SNIP

The day time SW bands are weaker and poor much of the time but sunset to
sunrise the lower SW bands are very good consistently up to 41 meters.

31 meters is hit or miss from crummy to very good but is very good most
of the time. This has been the best surprise band for years now and it
pays to check this band most anytime day or night.

25, 22, and 19 meters have been generally weaker and the best times for
them are late afternoon to a couple of hours after sunset. Same thing
mornings where these bands generally pickup again a couple hours before
sunrise into early morning. These middle bands have been poor for me
most of the time middle mornings to the middle of the afternoon.

During the daytime 16 meters has been the best band where 19 meters is
hit or miss but poor a lot of the time. 19 meters is generally better
late afternoon and early mornings.

15 meters is almost always weak and this band generally does not have
much broadcast on it anyway.

13 meters has been really poor all the time and I rarely even look at
it. Only two pages of broadcasters on it to begin with in Passport.
There could be openings but with so few broadcasters on this band who
would know.

I can't think of the last time I even looked at 11 meters with zero
broadcasters listed on it in Passport.

The upshot is there is plenty going on in SW much of the time.

AMBCB has been very good but in the northern hemisphere the current
season has shorter nigh time listening hours this being summer.

The main problem with AMBCB has been the damned IBOC crapola and of
course the damned DRM crap on the lower SW bands nights is now crapping
up the currently best listening of the SW reception bands.

I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. Can you translate that into
megacycles?

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ASCII wrote:
dave wrote:
While our struggle to preserve democracy in the USA may be trash to you,
it is deadly serious to those of us over here who haven't yet
surrendered to the fascists. Nobody's free until everybody's free.

Then why don't you take your 'struggle'
to a politics oriented newsgroup?

Because I couldn't find you there. We're at war.

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You wont find megacycles on your Drake either. It's been MHz for decades.
Just divide 300 by the frequency in Mhz (megahertz) to get the wavelength in
meters.
example: 300 / 9.600 Mhz = 31.25 meters ..... it's in the 31 meter SWL
band.

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"dave" wrote in message
...

I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. Can you translate that into
megacycles?

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

Brian Denley wrote:
You wont find megacycles on your Drake either. It's been MHz for decades.
Just divide 300 by the frequency in Mhz (megahertz) to get the wavelength in
meters.
example: 300 / 9.600 Mhz = 31.25 meters ..... it's in the 31 meter SWL
band.


It's very Radio Moscow.

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In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.


Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.

As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull moment.
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of you
do not have LF band on your radio's.

SNIP

The day time SW bands are weaker and poor much of the time but sunset to
sunrise the lower SW bands are very good consistently up to 41 meters.

31 meters is hit or miss from crummy to very good but is very good most
of the time. This has been the best surprise band for years now and it
pays to check this band most anytime day or night.

25, 22, and 19 meters have been generally weaker and the best times for
them are late afternoon to a couple of hours after sunset. Same thing
mornings where these bands generally pickup again a couple hours before
sunrise into early morning. These middle bands have been poor for me
most of the time middle mornings to the middle of the afternoon.

During the daytime 16 meters has been the best band where 19 meters is
hit or miss but poor a lot of the time. 19 meters is generally better
late afternoon and early mornings.

15 meters is almost always weak and this band generally does not have
much broadcast on it anyway.

13 meters has been really poor all the time and I rarely even look at
it. Only two pages of broadcasters on it to begin with in Passport.
There could be openings but with so few broadcasters on this band who
would know.

I can't think of the last time I even looked at 11 meters with zero
broadcasters listed on it in Passport.

The upshot is there is plenty going on in SW much of the time.

AMBCB has been very good but in the northern hemisphere the current
season has shorter nigh time listening hours this being summer.

The main problem with AMBCB has been the damned IBOC crapola and of
course the damned DRM crap on the lower SW bands nights is now crapping
up the currently best listening of the SW reception bands.

I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. Can you translate that into
megacycles?

You mean you didn't get the Drake meter option? What a fool.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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On Jun 20, 9:22*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





*dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
wrote:

Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. *The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.

Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.

As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull moment..
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of you
do not have LF band on your radio's.

SNIP

The day time SW bands are weaker and poor much of the time but sunset to
sunrise the lower SW bands are very good consistently up to 41 meters..

31 meters is hit or miss from crummy to very good but is very good most
of the time. This has been the best surprise band for years now and it
pays to check this band most anytime day or night.

25, 22, and 19 meters have been generally weaker and the best times for
them are late afternoon to a couple of hours after sunset. Same thing
mornings where these bands generally pickup again a couple hours before
sunrise into early morning. These middle bands have been poor for me
most of the time middle mornings to the middle of the afternoon.

During the daytime 16 meters has been the best band where 19 meters is
hit or miss but poor a lot of the time. 19 meters is generally better
late afternoon and early mornings.

15 meters is almost always weak and this band generally does not have
much broadcast on it anyway.

13 meters has been really poor all the time and I rarely even look at
it. Only two pages of broadcasters on it to begin with in Passport.
There could be openings but with so few broadcasters on this band who
would know.

I can't think of the last time I even looked at 11 meters with zero
broadcasters listed on it in Passport.

The upshot is there is plenty going on in SW much of the time.

AMBCB has been very good but in the northern hemisphere the current
season has shorter nigh time listening hours this being summer.

The main problem with AMBCB has been the damned IBOC crapola and of
course the damned DRM crap on the lower SW bands nights is now crapping
up the currently best listening of the SW reception bands.

I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. *Can you translate that into
megacycles?

You mean you didn't get the Drake meter option? What a fool.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually some Shortwave Radios display both the
Frequency in kHz / MHz and the SW Meter Bands.

Grundig Satellit 800-M Radio hearing RNZI on 7145 kHz
and the radio reads SW 49 Meter @ 07:12 UTC

Eton E1 Radio hearing Female Spanish Numbers Station
on 5884 kHz and the radio reads SW 49 M @ 07:01 UTC

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RHF wrote:
On Jun 20, 9:22 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.
Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.
As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull moment.
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of you
do not have LF band on your radio's.
SNIP
The day time SW bands are weaker and poor much of the time but sunset to
sunrise the lower SW bands are very good consistently up to 41 meters.
31 meters is hit or miss from crummy to very good but is very good most
of the time. This has been the best surprise band for years now and it
pays to check this band most anytime day or night.
25, 22, and 19 meters have been generally weaker and the best times for
them are late afternoon to a couple of hours after sunset. Same thing
mornings where these bands generally pickup again a couple hours before
sunrise into early morning. These middle bands have been poor for me
most of the time middle mornings to the middle of the afternoon.
During the daytime 16 meters has been the best band where 19 meters is
hit or miss but poor a lot of the time. 19 meters is generally better
late afternoon and early mornings.
15 meters is almost always weak and this band generally does not have
much broadcast on it anyway.
13 meters has been really poor all the time and I rarely even look at
it. Only two pages of broadcasters on it to begin with in Passport.
There could be openings but with so few broadcasters on this band who
would know.
I can't think of the last time I even looked at 11 meters with zero
broadcasters listed on it in Passport.
The upshot is there is plenty going on in SW much of the time.
AMBCB has been very good but in the northern hemisphere the current
season has shorter nigh time listening hours this being summer.
The main problem with AMBCB has been the damned IBOC crapola and of
course the damned DRM crap on the lower SW bands nights is now crapping
up the currently best listening of the SW reception bands.
I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. Can you translate that into
megacycles?
You mean you didn't get the Drake meter option? What a fool.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually some Shortwave Radios display both the
Frequency in kHz / MHz and the SW Meter Bands.

Grundig Satellit 800-M Radio hearing RNZI on 7145 kHz
and the radio reads SW 49 Meter @ 07:12 UTC

Eton E1 Radio hearing Female Spanish Numbers Station
on 5884 kHz and the radio reads SW 49 M @ 07:01 UTC
.
RHF's Radio Shack in Twain Harte, California -USA-
SHACK INFO =http://tinyurl.com/2skmxm
Shortwave Radio / Receiver and SWL Antenna Info
.
It's a useless anachronism that requires you to do an extra step; it
just puts-off people and IMHO makes the hobby less appealing to
potential newbies.

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

On Jun 21, 6:19*am, dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jun 20, 9:22 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,

*dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. *The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.
Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.
As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull moment.

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

SWL-2010 wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:
On Jun 20, 9:22 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.
Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.
As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull moment.
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a
great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in
recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of you
do not have LF band on your radio's.
SNIP
The day time SW bands are weaker and poor much of the time but sunset
to
sunrise the lower SW bands are very good consistently up to 41 meters.
31 meters is hit or miss from crummy to very good but is very good
most
of the time. This has been the best surprise band for years now and it
pays to check this band most anytime day or night.
25, 22, and 19 meters have been generally weaker and the best times
for
them are late afternoon to a couple of hours after sunset. Same thing
mornings where these bands generally pickup again a couple hours
before
sunrise into early morning. These middle bands have been poor for me
most of the time middle mornings to the middle of the afternoon.
During the daytime 16 meters has been the best band where 19 meters is
hit or miss but poor a lot of the time. 19 meters is generally better
late afternoon and early mornings.
15 meters is almost always weak and this band generally does not have
much broadcast on it anyway.
13 meters has been really poor all the time and I rarely even look at
it. Only two pages of broadcasters on it to begin with in Passport.
There could be openings but with so few broadcasters on this band who
would know.
I can't think of the last time I even looked at 11 meters with zero
broadcasters listed on it in Passport.
The upshot is there is plenty going on in SW much of the time.
AMBCB has been very good but in the northern hemisphere the current
season has shorter nigh time listening hours this being summer.
The main problem with AMBCB has been the damned IBOC crapola and of
course the damned DRM crap on the lower SW bands nights is now
crapping
up the currently best listening of the SW reception bands.
I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. Can you translate that
into
megacycles?
You mean you didn't get the Drake meter option? What a fool.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Actually some Shortwave Radios display both the
Frequency in kHz / MHz and the SW Meter Bands.

Grundig Satellit 800-M Radio hearing RNZI on 7145 kHz
and the radio reads SW 49 Meter @ 07:12 UTC

Eton E1 Radio hearing Female Spanish Numbers Station
on 5884 kHz and the radio reads SW 49 M @ 07:01 UTC
.
RHF's Radio Shack in Twain Harte, California -USA-
SHACK INFO =http://tinyurl.com/2skmxm
Shortwave Radio / Receiver and SWL Antenna Info
.
It's a useless anachronism that requires you to do an extra step; it just
puts-off people and IMHO makes the hobby less appealing to potential
newbies.

I have to disagree. Meter Bands have always been a basic essential in
discussing Shortwave Listening. Now, as an individual if you have a problem
with that, that's no problem, but saying is "a useless anachronism that
requires you to do an extra step" is absurd. Meter bands are actually there
to make the hobby easier. If someone says to me: "I was DXing 19 Meters" I
know where he was at on the dial, what time he was DXing, and pretty much
what big guns were on while he was DXing. I don't understand your
frustration with something so rudimentary to such a simple hobby. Shortwave
listening is not as complex as some people make it out to be, and certainly
mentioning a Meter Band is as fundamental to the hobby as gluing part A to
part B in basic model building. Of course, this is only my opinion, and I
say this to keep you from telling me how I am somehow obstructing your right
to free speech, denying your liberty or somehow imprisoning you.


You're right. It's fun doing division in your head every time you want
to understand a simple sentence. I don't know what I was thinking.

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Dave wrote:
SWL-2010 wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:
On Jun 20, 9:22 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and
dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.
Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number
of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.
As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull
moment.
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a
great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in
recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of
you
do not have LF band on your radio's.
SNIP
The day time SW bands are weaker and poor much of the time but
sunset to
sunrise the lower SW bands are very good consistently up to 41
meters.
31 meters is hit or miss from crummy to very good but is very
good most
of the time. This has been the best surprise band for years now
and it
pays to check this band most anytime day or night.
25, 22, and 19 meters have been generally weaker and the best
times for
them are late afternoon to a couple of hours after sunset. Same
thing
mornings where these bands generally pickup again a couple hours
before
sunrise into early morning. These middle bands have been poor for me
most of the time middle mornings to the middle of the afternoon.
During the daytime 16 meters has been the best band where 19
meters is
hit or miss but poor a lot of the time. 19 meters is generally
better
late afternoon and early mornings.
15 meters is almost always weak and this band generally does not
have
much broadcast on it anyway.
13 meters has been really poor all the time and I rarely even
look at
it. Only two pages of broadcasters on it to begin with in Passport.
There could be openings but with so few broadcasters on this band
who
would know.
I can't think of the last time I even looked at 11 meters with zero
broadcasters listed on it in Passport.
The upshot is there is plenty going on in SW much of the time.
AMBCB has been very good but in the northern hemisphere the current
season has shorter nigh time listening hours this being summer.
The main problem with AMBCB has been the damned IBOC crapola and of
course the damned DRM crap on the lower SW bands nights is now
crapping
up the currently best listening of the SW reception bands.
I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. Can you translate
that into
megacycles?
You mean you didn't get the Drake meter option? What a fool.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Actually some Shortwave Radios display both the
Frequency in kHz / MHz and the SW Meter Bands.

Grundig Satellit 800-M Radio hearing RNZI on 7145 kHz
and the radio reads SW 49 Meter @ 07:12 UTC

Eton E1 Radio hearing Female Spanish Numbers Station
on 5884 kHz and the radio reads SW 49 M @ 07:01 UTC
.
RHF's Radio Shack in Twain Harte, California -USA-
SHACK INFO =http://tinyurl.com/2skmxm
Shortwave Radio / Receiver and SWL Antenna Info
.
It's a useless anachronism that requires you to do an extra step; it
just puts-off people and IMHO makes the hobby less appealing to
potential newbies.

I have to disagree. Meter Bands have always been a basic essential in
discussing Shortwave Listening. Now, as an individual if you have a
problem with that, that's no problem, but saying is "a useless
anachronism that requires you to do an extra step" is absurd. Meter
bands are actually there to make the hobby easier. If someone says to
me: "I was DXing 19 Meters" I know where he was at on the dial, what
time he was DXing, and pretty much what big guns were on while he was
DXing. I don't understand your frustration with something so
rudimentary to such a simple hobby. Shortwave listening is not as
complex as some people make it out to be, and certainly mentioning a
Meter Band is as fundamental to the hobby as gluing part A to part B
in basic model building. Of course, this is only my opinion, and I
say this to keep you from telling me how I am somehow obstructing your
right to free speech, denying your liberty or somehow imprisoning you.

You're right. It's fun doing division in your head every time you want
to understand a simple sentence. I don't know what I was thinking.

Nobody does.

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

SWL-2010 wrote:

If you listen to shortwave long enough you don't have to do division.



I've been listening long enough to know that broadcasters themselves are
moving away from "meterband" type gewgaw.

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

SWL-2010 wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:
On Jun 20, 9:22 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.
Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.
As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull moment.
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a
great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in
recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of you
do not have LF band on your radio's.
SNIP
The day time SW bands are weaker and poor much of the time but sunset
to
sunrise the lower SW bands are very good consistently up to 41 meters.
31 meters is hit or miss from crummy to very good but is very good
most
of the time. This has been the best surprise band for years now and it
pays to check this band most anytime day or night.
25, 22, and 19 meters have been generally weaker and the best times
for
them are late afternoon to a couple of hours after sunset. Same thing
mornings where these bands generally pickup again a couple hours
before
sunrise into early morning. These middle bands have been poor for me
most of the time middle mornings to the middle of the afternoon.
During the daytime 16 meters has been the best band where 19 meters is
hit or miss but poor a lot of the time. 19 meters is generally better
late afternoon and early mornings.
15 meters is almost always weak and this band generally does not have
much broadcast on it anyway.
13 meters has been really poor all the time and I rarely even look at
it. Only two pages of broadcasters on it to begin with in Passport.
There could be openings but with so few broadcasters on this band who
would know.
I can't think of the last time I even looked at 11 meters with zero
broadcasters listed on it in Passport.
The upshot is there is plenty going on in SW much of the time.
AMBCB has been very good but in the northern hemisphere the current
season has shorter nigh time listening hours this being summer.
The main problem with AMBCB has been the damned IBOC crapola and of
course the damned DRM crap on the lower SW bands nights is now
crapping
up the currently best listening of the SW reception bands.
I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. Can you translate that
into
megacycles?
You mean you didn't get the Drake meter option? What a fool.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Actually some Shortwave Radios display both the
Frequency in kHz / MHz and the SW Meter Bands.

Grundig Satellit 800-M Radio hearing RNZI on 7145 kHz
and the radio reads SW 49 Meter @ 07:12 UTC

Eton E1 Radio hearing Female Spanish Numbers Station
on 5884 kHz and the radio reads SW 49 M @ 07:01 UTC
.
RHF's Radio Shack in Twain Harte, California -USA-
SHACK INFO =http://tinyurl.com/2skmxm
Shortwave Radio / Receiver and SWL Antenna Info
.
It's a useless anachronism that requires you to do an extra step; it just
puts-off people and IMHO makes the hobby less appealing to potential
newbies.

I have to disagree. Meter Bands have always been a basic essential in
discussing Shortwave Listening. Now, as an individual if you have a
problem
with that, that's no problem, but saying is "a useless anachronism that
requires you to do an extra step" is absurd. Meter bands are actually
there
to make the hobby easier. If someone says to me: "I was DXing 19 Meters"
I
know where he was at on the dial, what time he was DXing, and pretty much
what big guns were on while he was DXing. I don't understand your
frustration with something so rudimentary to such a simple hobby. Shortwave
listening is not as complex as some people make it out to be, and certainly
mentioning a Meter Band is as fundamental to the hobby as gluing part A to
part B in basic model building. Of course, this is only my opinion, and I
say this to keep you from telling me how I am somehow obstructing your
right
to free speech, denying your liberty or somehow imprisoning you.


You're right. It's fun doing division in your head every time you want
to understand a simple sentence. I don't know what I was thinking.

You can't look at a chart? You need to get a different hobby where you
can just be a bump on a log.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

SWL-2010 wrote:

If you listen to shortwave long enough you don't have to do division.



I've been listening long enough to know that broadcasters themselves are
moving away from "meterband" type gewgaw.

You should move away from the hobby.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

On Jun 21, 11:43*am, D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
SWL-2010 wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
om...
RHF wrote:
On Jun 20, 9:22 pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,

*dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:
In article
,
wrote:
Bob, (count floyd) wrote
C'mon guys, lets use this forum to discuss radio listening and
dxing
of either BCB or SW, and keep the spam talk out or by direct email.
Follow the example of John Plimmer, his posts are always radio
related
and very interesting, they are about the only ones I read on this
group anymore. *The petty bickering needs to stop and get back on
topic.
Well said Bob, I too become perturbed by the increasing number
of off
topic trash that now overwhelms this news group. When I first
subscribed many years ago it was full of on topic interesting radio
stuff.
As for radio, I have been DXing for 42 years and never a dull
moment.
When propagation is bad and you are thinking of chucking it in,
something always comes up and reinvigorates your interest with a
great
DX catch. It's true that HF SW propagation has been very bad in
recent
years with the current very low sunspot number, but as sure as God
made little apples, it will come back again in full force in coming
years. So if HF is bad now, then try the MW AM band or the many
interesting things to do on LF, Although I am aware that many of
you
do not have LF band on your radio's.
SNIP
The day time SW bands are weaker and poor much of the time but
sunset to
sunrise the lower SW bands are very good consistently up to 41
meters.
31 meters is hit or miss from crummy to very good but is very
good most
of the time. This has been the best surprise band for years now
and it
pays to check this band most anytime day or night.
25, 22, and 19 meters have been generally weaker and the best
times for
them are late afternoon to a couple of hours after sunset. Same
thing
mornings where these bands generally pickup again a couple hours
before
sunrise into early morning. These middle bands have been poor for me
most of the time middle mornings to the middle of the afternoon.
During the daytime 16 meters has been the best band where 19
meters is
hit or miss but poor a lot of the time. 19 meters is generally
better
late afternoon and early mornings.
15 meters is almost always weak and this band generally does not
have
much broadcast on it anyway.
13 meters has been really poor all the time and I rarely even
look at
it. Only two pages of broadcasters on it to begin with in Passport.

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

On Jun 21, 3:31*pm, "SWL-2010" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

...

SWL-2010 wrote:

If you listen to shortwave long enough you don't have to do division.

I've been listening long enough to know that broadcasters themselves are
moving away from "meterband" type gewgaw.

Well, to be blunt and to make sure I exercise my right to free speech and
expression, I think anyone who listens to shortwave that doesn't "get"
something as simple as a meterband is actually pretty damned stupid. *I've
never heard anyone protest something so intrinsic to the hobby. *You can
have the last word. I have a feeling you will continue to press your
meaningless point until you do get the last word.

- [A shortwave listener who doesn't understand
- what a meterband is, now I've heard it all].

For the Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) Newbies,

Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands
and WaveLengths in Meters {Metres}
* Hertz - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz
* kHz - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilo_Hertz_%28KHz%29

The basic 'relative' concept of Frequency, Radio Waves
and Wave Length as a function of each other. Goes to
the Core-of-Understanding the Radio (RF) Bands and
being a Shortwave Band Radio Listener (SWL).
* Radio Frequency - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_frequency
* Radio Waves - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_waves
* WaveLength - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength
* Shortwave Bands - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave_bands
* Meters - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meters {Metres}

For Those Who Want To Do-the-Math here is a simple
to use "Frequency to Wavelength (WL) Calculator"
http://www.csgnetwork.com/freqwavelengthcalc.html
Plus Shortwave (SW) Meter Band to Frequency Range Table

About - Shortwave Radio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave

About - High Frequency (HF) Radio Frequencies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency

About - Medium Frequency (MF) Radio Fequencies (RF)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_frequency
-aka- Medium Wave (MW) Radio Band -or- the AM
Radio Broadcast Band (BCB)
* Medium Wave or MediumWave (MW)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave
* AM Broadcasting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM_broadcast


one reader at a time - building basic understanding of the
shortwave radio listening hobby - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

On Jun 21, 9:13*pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jun 21, 7:23 pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

- {CraZy ****}

- Frequency and wavelength are inversely proportional.

Dave - "Inversely Proportional" -is- Sort-of-Like :

The Lower the Frequency : The Longer the WaveLength
[ Low Frequency (LF) ~ Long Waves (LW) ]

The Higher the Frequency : The Shorter the WaveLength
[ High Frequency (HF) ~ Short Waves (SW) Shortwave ]

Dave you don't have to sign-it "CraZy ****"

we all know your name ;-} ~ RHF
*.

- Back on Google are we?

Dave - ? We ?

Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.

dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

RHF wrote:
On Jun 21, 9:13 pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jun 21, 7:23 pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
- {CraZy ****}
- Frequency and wavelength are inversely proportional.
Dave - "Inversely Proportional" -is- Sort-of-Like :
The Lower the Frequency : The Longer the WaveLength
[ Low Frequency (LF) ~ Long Waves (LW) ]
The Higher the Frequency : The Shorter the WaveLength
[ High Frequency (HF) ~ Short Waves (SW) Shortwave ]
Dave you don't have to sign-it "CraZy ****"
we all know your name ;-} ~ RHF
.

- Back on Google are we?

Dave - ? We ?

Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.

dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF
.


Sometimes Pan, sometimes Thunderbird, depending on which machine and
which partition I'm on.

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

On Jun 22, 9:14*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jun 21, 9:13 pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jun 21, 7:23 pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
- {CraZy ****}
- Frequency and wavelength are inversely proportional.
Dave - "Inversely Proportional" -is- Sort-of-Like :
The Lower the Frequency : The Longer the WaveLength
[ Low Frequency (LF) ~ Long Waves (LW) ]
The Higher the Frequency : The Shorter the WaveLength
[ High Frequency (HF) ~ Short Waves (SW) Shortwave ]
Dave you don't have to sign-it "CraZy ****"
we all know your name ;-} ~ RHF
*.

- Back on Google are we?

Dave - ? We ?

Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.

dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF
*.

- Sometimes Pan, sometimes Thunderbird, depending
- on which machine and which partition I'm on.

I B a Dell with XPsp2 and IE7 via Google Groups
unless I have posting problems; then Thunderbird 2
seams to work as a get around.

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

RHF wrote:

- Back on Google are we?
Dave - ? We ?
Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.
dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF
.

- Sometimes Pan, sometimes Thunderbird, depending
- on which machine and which partition I'm on.

I B a Dell with XPsp2 and IE7 via Google Groups
unless I have posting problems; then Thunderbird 2
seams to work as a get around.
.
Everex $199 WalMart Special running Xubuntu 8.04.

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

RHF wrote:
On Jun 22, 9:14 am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jun 21, 9:13 pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jun 21, 7:23 pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
- {CraZy ****}
- Frequency and wavelength are inversely proportional.
Dave - "Inversely Proportional" -is- Sort-of-Like :
The Lower the Frequency : The Longer the WaveLength
[ Low Frequency (LF) ~ Long Waves (LW) ]
The Higher the Frequency : The Shorter the WaveLength
[ High Frequency (HF) ~ Short Waves (SW) Shortwave ]
Dave you don't have to sign-it "CraZy ****"
we all know your name ;-} ~ RHF
.
- Back on Google are we?
Dave - ? We ?
Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.
dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF
.

- Sometimes Pan, sometimes Thunderbird, depending
- on which machine and which partition I'm on.

I B a Dell with XPsp2 and IE7 via Google Groups
unless I have posting problems; then Thunderbird 2
seams to work as a get around.
.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pan.jpg

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"Dave" wrote in message


"MC 274.3 Meter Jesus" just doesn't work.

http://www.worldwidemetric.com/metcal.htm

Nobody divides the exact freq down to meters. Meters is only used to
represent given segments of the spectrum and has been used by the most
profound DXers, Hams and hobbyist since the first spark gap propagation of
electromagnetic waves shot into the aether. Geez!
--
Regards
B.H.
Hill Amplification
http://hillamplification.com

Brian's Radio Universe
http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm

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Brian Hill wrote:
"Brian Denley" wrote in message
. ..
You wont find megacycles on your Drake either. It's been MHz for decades.
Just divide 300 by the frequency in Mhz (megahertz) to get the wavelength
in meters.
example: 300 / 9.600 Mhz = 31.25 meters ..... it's in the 31 meter
SWL band.

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"dave" wrote in message
...
I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. Can you translate that into
megacycles?


Megacycles and megahertz are the same thing. Megacycles is old school. But
you knew that Bri. Just thought I'd mention it for the younger crowd.


Megacycles per second

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Brian Hill wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message


"MC 274.3 Meter Jesus" just doesn't work.

http://www.worldwidemetric.com/metcal.htm


Meters is only used to
represent given segments of the spectrum and has been used by the most
profound DXers, Hams and hobbyist since the first spark gap propagation of
electromagnetic waves shot into the aether.

Monty Burns couldn't have said it better!

That "spark gap" reference is sure to pique the interest of the Ipod
generation.

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

On Jun 22, 2:14*pm, Dave wrote:
Brian Hill wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

"MC 274.3 Meter Jesus" just doesn't work.

http://www.worldwidemetric.com/metcal.htm
Meters is only used to
represent given segments of the spectrum and has been used by the most
profound DXers, Hams and hobbyist since the first spark gap propagation of
electromagnetic waves shot into the aether.

Monty Burns couldn't have said it better!

- That "spark gap" reference is sure to pique
- the interest of the Ipod generation.

Dave - Sort-of-Like : a Glimmer-of-Hope ! :-} ~ RHF

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

In message , Dave
writes
Brian Hill wrote:
"Brian Denley" wrote in message
m...
You wont find megacycles on your Drake either. It's been MHz for decades.
Just divide 300 by the frequency in Mhz (megahertz) to get the
wavelength in meters.
example: 300 / 9.600 Mhz = 31.25 meters ..... it's in the 31
meter SWL band.

-- Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"dave" wrote in message
. com...
I can't find "meters" anywhere on my Drake. Can you translate that
into megacycles?

Megacycles and megahertz are the same thing. Megacycles is old
school. But you knew that Bri. Just thought I'd mention it for the
younger crowd.

Megacycles per second

Maybe I'm wrong, but I seem to recall that, way back when it was decided
that we should use Hertz (Hz) instead of cycles per second (c/s), it was
to be only for electrical units. There was no mention of the change
applying to the vibration/oscillation of non-electrical things, so these
should have stayed in c/s. For example, the frequency of an audio signal
applied to the voice coil of a loud speaker would be in Hz. The cone
would vibrate in c/s. However, Hz now seems to be applied universally.
--
Ian

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

RHF wrote:

- Back on Google are we?
Dave - ? We ?
Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.
dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF
.
- Sometimes Pan, sometimes Thunderbird, depending
- on which machine and which partition I'm on.

I B a Dell with XPsp2 and IE7 via Google Groups
unless I have posting problems; then Thunderbird 2
seams to work as a get around.
.
Everex $199 WalMart Special running Xubuntu 8.04.

Cray XT5.

I'll bet mine's quieter.

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

RHF wrote NOTHING on topic in a thread about being on topic...





USA English Stardard System -versus- The-Rest-of-the-World
which uses the Metric System.


==========================
It shall be lawful throughout the United States of America to employ the
weights and measures of the metric system; and no contract or dealing,
or pleading in any court, shall be deemed invalid or liable to objection
because the weights or measures expressed or referred to therein are
weights or measures of the metric system.

As a result, the U. S. has been "metric" since 1866, but only in the
sense that Americans have been free since that time to use the metric
system as much as they like.

http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
===========================

--
Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter
blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups.

http://improve-usenet.org/

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That generation has difficulty finding North America on a map.

--
Brian Denley
http://home.comcast.net/~b.denley/index.html

"Dave" wrote in message
...
Brian Hill wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message


"MC 274.3 Meter Jesus" just doesn't work.

http://www.worldwidemetric.com/metcal.htm


Meters is only used to represent given segments of the spectrum and has
been used by the most profound DXers, Hams and hobbyist since the first
spark gap propagation of electromagnetic waves shot into the aether.

Monty Burns couldn't have said it better!

That "spark gap" reference is sure to pique the interest of the Ipod
generation.

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands and WaveLengths in Meters
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

RHF wrote:

- Back on Google are we?
Dave - ? We ?
Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.
dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF
.
- Sometimes Pan, sometimes Thunderbird, depending
- on which machine and which partition I'm on.

I B a Dell with XPsp2 and IE7 via Google Groups
unless I have posting problems; then Thunderbird 2
seams to work as a get around.
.
Everex $199 WalMart Special running Xubuntu 8.04.

Cray XT5.

I'll bet mine's quieter.

It all liquid cooled with the fans outside so it's pretty quiet.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

"Brian Denley" wrote in message
...
That generation has difficulty finding North America on a map.

Or their ass with both hands...

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

On Jun 22, 3:43*pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,





*Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

- Back on Google are we?
Dave - ? We ?
Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.
dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF
*.

- Sometimes Pan, sometimes Thunderbird, depending
- on which machine and which partition I'm on.

- - - I B a Dell with XPsp2 and IE7 via Google Groups
- - - unless I have posting problems; then Thunderbird 2
- - - seams to work as a get around.

- - Everex $199 WalMart Special running Xubuntu 8.04.

- Cray XT5.
-
- --
- Telamon
- Ventura, California

Dang a Cray XT5 . . . I am impressed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray_XT5

by 'opteron' you say ~ RHF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Opteron

DXing, Radios, Antennas, Etc. Let's Get Back on Topic.
 

On Jun 22, 6:47*pm, m II wrote:
RHF wrote NOTHING on topic in a thread about being on topic...

USA English Stardard System -versus- The-Rest-of-the-World
which uses the Metric System.

==========================
It shall be lawful throughout the United States of America to employ the
weights and measures of the metric system; and no contract or dealing,
or pleading in any court, shall be deemed invalid or liable to objection
because the weights or measures expressed or referred to therein are
weights or measures of the metric system.

- As a result, the U. S. has been "metric" since 1866,
- but only in the sense that Americans have been free
- since that time to use the metric system as much
- as they like.
- http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
===========================

The USofA the Land of the Free :
Be It Measured in Feet and/or Meters ~ RHF

Remember the Metric System's use was stread during the
Rule of Napoleon, and many people called him a Tyrant.
http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac...asurement.html
http://www.claremont.org/publication...cle_detail.asp

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

RHF wrote:

- Back on Google are we?
Dave - ? We ?
Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.
dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF
.
- Sometimes Pan, sometimes Thunderbird, depending
- on which machine and which partition I'm on.

I B a Dell with XPsp2 and IE7 via Google Groups
unless I have posting problems; then Thunderbird 2
seams to work as a get around.
.
Everex $199 WalMart Special running Xubuntu 8.04.
Cray XT5.

I'll bet mine's quieter.

It all liquid cooled with the fans outside so it's pretty quiet.

Can it run all day for a quarter?

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands and WaveLengths in Meters
 

In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

RHF wrote:

- Back on Google are we?
Dave - ? We ?
Dave - Yes 'i' am using Google.
dave - however 'i' do not know
what you are 'on' ~ RHF
.
- Sometimes Pan, sometimes Thunderbird, depending
- on which machine and which partition I'm on.

I B a Dell with XPsp2 and IE7 via Google Groups
unless I have posting problems; then Thunderbird 2
seams to work as a get around.
.
Everex $199 WalMart Special running Xubuntu 8.04.
Cray XT5.

I'll bet mine's quieter.

It all liquid cooled with the fans outside so it's pretty quiet.

Can it run all day for a quarter?

I don't pay the electric bill.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands andWaveLengths in Meters
 

Telamon wrote:

Can it run all day for a quarter?

I don't pay the electric bill.


Wrong. We ALL pay the Electric Bill.



mike



--
Due to the insane amount of spam and garbage, this filter
blocks all postings from Gmail, Google Mail and Google Groups.

http://improve-usenet.org/

SWL Newbies : Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands and WaveLengths in Meters
 

I'm still trying to figure out how a cycle became a hertz. A cycle is
a noun, or it could be a verb. Hertz was a fellah.

bob
k5qwg

On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:08:45 -0700 (PDT), RHF
wrote:

On Jun 21, 3:31*pm, "SWL-2010" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

...

SWL-2010 wrote:

If you listen to shortwave long enough you don't have to do division.

I've been listening long enough to know that broadcasters themselves are
moving away from "meterband" type gewgaw.

Well, to be blunt and to make sure I exercise my right to free speech and
expression, I think anyone who listens to shortwave that doesn't "get"
something as simple as a meterband is actually pretty damned stupid. *I've
never heard anyone protest something so intrinsic to the hobby. *You can
have the last word. I have a feeling you will continue to press your
meaningless point until you do get the last word.

- [A shortwave listener who doesn't understand
- what a meterband is, now I've heard it all].

For the Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL) Newbies,

Hertz & kHz & MHz -versus- Shortwave Bands
and WaveLengths in Meters {Metres}
* Hertz - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz
* kHz - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilo_Hertz_%28KHz%29

The basic 'relative' concept of Frequency, Radio Waves
and Wave Length as a function of each other. Goes to
the Core-of-Understanding the Radio (RF) Bands and
being a Shortwave Band Radio Listener (SWL).
* Radio Frequency - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_frequency
* Radio Waves - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_waves
* WaveLength - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength
* Shortwave Bands - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave_bands
* Meters - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meters {Metres}

For Those Who Want To Do-the-Math here is a simple
to use "Frequency to Wavelength (WL) Calculator"
http://www.csgnetwork.com/freqwavelengthcalc.html
Plus Shortwave (SW) Meter Band to Frequency Range Table

About - Shortwave Radio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortwave

About - High Frequency (HF) Radio Frequencies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_frequency

About - Medium Frequency (MF) Radio Fequencies (RF)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_frequency
-aka- Medium Wave (MW) Radio Band -or- the AM
Radio Broadcast Band (BCB)
* Medium Wave or MediumWave (MW)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave
* AM Broadcasting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AM_broadcast


one reader at a time - building basic understanding of the
shortwave radio listening hobby - iane ~ RHF {pomkia}
.
Are You Interested in building a better Shortwave Listening*
(SWL) Antenna ? {SWL Group} = http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
GoTo = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Shortwave-SWL-Antenna/
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RHF's Standard "Shortwave Radio Listener (SWL) Antennas Group"
Reference Message Signature-Line = http://tinyurl.com/25zbrg
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...1dac3b4a1798e0
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* Remember 55.5% of Shortwave Radio Listening (SWL)
is the Shortwave Antenna =http://tinyurl.com/ogvcf
.
RHF's Radio Shack in Twain Harte, California -USA-
SHACK INFO =http://tinyurl.com/2skmxm
Shortwave Radio / Receiver and SWL Antenna Info
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-=2SKMXM=-
-=25ZBRG=-
SWR3:SWL:INFO
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