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RHF July 7th 08 09:04 PM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 
On Jul 7, 11:24*am, Dave wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:06:33 -0700, RHF wrote:

AM/MW Radio Broadcasting in the USA is a Commercial Enterprise and as
such : =IF= There Is No Revenue : Them There Is No Reason To Broadcast
[.] - The AM/MW Band Dies.


- There are several standard broadcast noncomms.

Several out of a Total of 4,754 AM Radio Stations would
appear to be the Exception that proves the Rule.

-*For some reason ethnics and religious types can
- make a go of facilities that big corporations can't
- seem to run.

These are usually 'under-written' non-profit enterprises.

Hey the AM Radio Band could become "The All Mighty's" Radio Band.

-*There are other reasons to broadcast besides making
- money.

Not as a general rule in the USA.

-*Why do pirates go on the air?

The Pirates are Pirates -because- They Want To Be Pirates.
-aka- Bad Boys !

Dave[_17_] July 7th 08 09:43 PM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:41 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


money. Why do pirates go on the air?




In the USA, Radio is always about the money. ALWAYS.

If you don't think NPR, PRI are not about the money, you need to
return your bong.


I don't have a bong. Not every radio station makes money. Some are on
the air to advance an ideology; some are run at a loss for other
business reasons; some are just run by eccentric owners for the fun of
it. We have a station here that Clear Channel runs at a loss just so
they can claim to be more eclectic when they get attacked for being too
controlling of the music.

You are talking to a former NPR PD (admittedly before the ala carte era).

www.pacifica.org

David Eduardo[_4_] July 7th 08 10:28 PM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
news:telamon_spamshield-
As to AM in Carlsbad, you are at the fringe of the AM signals of the San
Diego HD AMs, so dropout would be likely on a bad receiver. The fact is
that
SD does not even have an AM that totally covers the market with a usable
signal.


2nd model maybe, not second generation.


First generation used several separate chips. Second, starting with the BA
Receptor, used an integrated chip, third generation coming in next few
months.



David Eduardo[_4_] July 7th 08 10:30 PM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In posted on Sun,
6 Jul 2008 22:24:13 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin


As far as AM HD, what the consumers don't want is AM. No amount of
technology can fix the AM band and its old-fart image among most anyone
under about 45. This is why AM listening is declining so fast, and the
only
remaining listeners soon will be over 55, a group nearly no agency ad
account wants.


Maybe the AM band will be abandoned by 'commercial' pollution and will
remain, as FM once was, a non-commercial adjunct to a station's service.


Or maybe, like much of the world, the AM band will slowly die off... count
the AMs in South Africa or Chile or Ecuador or the Windward and Leeward
Islands or Austria and compare with 30 years ago.



David Eduardo[_4_] July 7th 08 10:32 PM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 

"Bart Bailey" wrote in message
...
In

posted on Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:06:33 -0700 (PDT), RHF wrote: Begin

On Jul 7, 12:05 am, Bart Bailey wrote:
In posted on Sun,
6 Jul 2008 22:24:13 -0700, David Eduardo wrote: Begin



As far as AM HD, what the consumers don't want is AM. No amount of
technology can fix the AM band and its old-fart image among most anyone
under about 45. This is why AM listening is declining so fast, and the
only
remaining listeners soon will be over 55, a group nearly no agency ad
account wants.


- Maybe the AM band will be abandoned by 'commercial'
- pollution and will remain, as FM once was,
- a non-commercial adjunct to a station's service.

AM/MW Radio Broadcasting in the USA is a Commercial
Enterprise and as such : =IF= There Is No Revenue : Them
There Is No Reason To Broadcast [.] - The AM/MW Band Dies.


Like the sleepy FMBCB from the fifties did during the sixties?


Actually, station count on FM declined from 1950 to 1960, but started
building considerably by the early 60's.



David Eduardo[_4_] July 7th 08 10:35 PM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:35:41 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:


money. Why do pirates go on the air?




In the USA, Radio is always about the money. ALWAYS.

If you don't think NPR, PRI are not about the money, you need to
return your bong.


I don't have a bong. Not every radio station makes money. Some are on
the air to advance an ideology; some are run at a loss for other
business reasons; some are just run by eccentric owners for the fun of
it. We have a station here that Clear Channel runs at a loss just so
they can claim to be more eclectic when they get attacked for being too
controlling of the music.


All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money due
to sharper competitors or bad signals.



Dave[_17_] July 7th 08 11:18 PM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:06 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:


All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money
due to sharper competitors or bad signals.


They ran Indie 103.1 at a loss until the FCC stopped them.


David Eduardo[_4_] July 7th 08 11:44 PM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:35:06 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:


All the CC stations in the LA market make lots of money. None of the CC
stations is run at a loss on purpose, although some of them lose money
due to sharper competitors or bad signals.


They ran Indie 103.1 at a loss until the FCC stopped them.


They did no such thing. Indie was run by Entravision with a JSA (joint sales
agreement) with Clear Channel so they would not have to have a separate
sales department for a station (actually, combo) that only covers about 20%
of the market.

In any case, that was years ago... and the FCC only stopped them indirectly.
Clear ceased to hold the JSA because the FCC redefined the method used to
determine what a "radio market" is, causing quite a few changes across the
country to a number of broadcasters.



A Brown July 8th 08 03:11 AM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 

With the radio tuned to a non HD AM station, adjacent AM HD stations
cause the receiver to switch to HD which results in the receive audio
to shut off for several seconds. This occurs regularly on AM.


I have never heard of this happenning...nor had it happen to me.




m II July 8th 08 03:21 AM

IBiquity - Where's the "HD" in "HD" radio?
 
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--Chet Atkins, Margaret Archer.



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