D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 12, 10:14 am, Dave wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- -
- - RHF Replies : Dave - No !
- - More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and
- - in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are
- - Creating New Millionaires right here in the US
- - versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda
- - and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.

- WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"?

-wrt- Islamofascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism

- Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices.
- Period.

Dave - 'Increased Supply' and 'Reduced Demand'
is the only way to permanently Reduce Prices [.]

The one thing that personal 'conservation' does is to
Reduce your overall Personal {out-fo-pocket} Cost to
You in the Short Term.

OLD - You Driving 600 Miles @ 20MPG and using 30 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $120 for Gas.

NEW - You Driving 450 Miles @ 20MPG and using 22.5 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $90 for Gas.

RESULT - Your personal Reduction of 150 Miles Driven
by 25% results in a Personal Cost Savings of 25% ~$30
per Week.

The ONLY WAY Conservation Works : Is When It Is Done
Equally By All : That Takes Some Form of Mandatory
Restrictions {Rationing} on Gas Use Age for All Drivers.

You are wrong. Raising prices forces conservation just as well as
some stupid rule.


Conservation does not result in independence.

Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.

John Barnard wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 12, 10:14 am, Dave wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- -
- - RHF Replies : Dave - No !
- - More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and
- - in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are
- - Creating New Millionaires right here in the US
- - versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda
- - and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.

- WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"?

-wrt- Islamofascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism

- Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices.
- Period.

Dave - 'Increased Supply' and 'Reduced Demand'
is the only way to permanently Reduce Prices [.]

The one thing that personal 'conservation' does is to
Reduce your overall Personal {out-fo-pocket} Cost to
You in the Short Term.

OLD - You Driving 600 Miles @ 20MPG and using 30 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $120 for Gas.

NEW - You Driving 450 Miles @ 20MPG and using 22.5 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $90 for Gas.

RESULT - Your personal Reduction of 150 Miles Driven
by 25% results in a Personal Cost Savings of 25% ~$30
per Week.

The ONLY WAY Conservation Works : Is When It Is Done
Equally By All : That Takes Some Form of Mandatory
Restrictions {Rationing} on Gas Use Age for All Drivers.

You are wrong. Raising prices forces conservation just as well as
some stupid rule.


Conservation does not result in independence.

Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.



Not if you own the resource.

D Peter Maus wrote:


Conservation does not result in independence.

Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.



Not if you own the resource.


What about CO2? What about the air? It's like we're squeezing our eyes
shut and flooring it...

Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:


Conservation does not result in independence.

Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.



Not if you own the resource.


What about CO2?

You expel CO2 (besides other noxious gases), please Rickets, stop breathing!

In article ,
Dave wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:


Conservation does not result in independence.

Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.



Not if you own the resource.


What about CO2? What about the air? It's like we're squeezing our eyes
shut and flooring it...

What about the crap you breath into your lungs on a regular basis? All
that tar, which is in far greater amounts that tobacco just to name one
thing Mr. Pipe smoker.

You keep this up and you will have to have carbon credits just to smoke
your dope.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Jul 13, 11:40*am, Telamon
wrote:
In article ,

*Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

* Conservation does not result in independence.

*Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.

* *Not if you own the resource.

What about CO2? *What about the air? *It's like we're squeezing our eyes
shut and flooring it...

What about the crap you breath into your lungs on a regular basis? All
that tar, which is in far greater amounts that tobacco just to name one
thing Mr. Pipe smoker.

You keep this up and you will have to have carbon credits just to smoke
your dope.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Yeah Dave - Pot Smoking Causes Air Polution [.]

Just Say No To Second Hand Pot Smoke ~ RHF

On Jul 13, 6:04*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

* Conservation does not result in independence.

*Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.

* *Not if you own the resource.

What about CO2? *What about the air? *It's like we're squeezing our eyes
shut and flooring it...

Dave It's Time For You To Get Out And Walk !

It Will Clear Your Head and Aid Your Health .

live well and be healthy ~ RHF

Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:


Conservation does not result in independence.

Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.



Not if you own the resource.


What about CO2? What about the air? It's like we're squeezing our eyes
shut and flooring it...


.04% of the atmosphere. Against...well, the primary greenhouse gas in
the atmosphere is water. The proportions make the claims more than
preposterous.

D Peter Maus wrote:
John Barnard wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 12, 10:14 am, Dave wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- -
- - RHF Replies : Dave - No !
- - More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and
- - in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are
- - Creating New Millionaires right here in the US
- - versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda
- - and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.

- WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"?

-wrt- Islamofascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism

- Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices.
- Period.

Dave - 'Increased Supply' and 'Reduced Demand'
is the only way to permanently Reduce Prices [.]

The one thing that personal 'conservation' does is to
Reduce your overall Personal {out-fo-pocket} Cost to
You in the Short Term.

OLD - You Driving 600 Miles @ 20MPG and using 30 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $120 for Gas.

NEW - You Driving 450 Miles @ 20MPG and using 22.5 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $90 for Gas.

RESULT - Your personal Reduction of 150 Miles Driven
by 25% results in a Personal Cost Savings of 25% ~$30
per Week.

The ONLY WAY Conservation Works : Is When It Is Done
Equally By All : That Takes Some Form of Mandatory
Restrictions {Rationing} on Gas Use Age for All Drivers.

You are wrong. Raising prices forces conservation just as well as
some stupid rule.


Conservation does not result in independence.

Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.



Not if you own the resource.


I assume that you've never been out to the tar sands . And if you need
to go out of your way to exploit something then you are still addicted
to it. And some may question the wisdom of having a oil rigs in an area
of considerable tectonic activity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Q...rs_1963-98.png

JB

On Jul 13, 12:08*pm, John Barnard wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
John Barnard wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Jul 12, 10:14 am, Dave wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- -
- - RHF Replies : Dave - No !
- - More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and
- - in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are
- - Creating New Millionaires right here in the US
- - versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda
- - and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.

- WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"?

-wrt- Islamofascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism

- Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices.
- Period.

Dave - 'Increased Supply' and 'Reduced Demand'
is the only way to permanently Reduce Prices [.]

The one thing that personal 'conservation' does is to
Reduce your overall Personal {out-fo-pocket} Cost to
You in the Short Term.

OLD - You Driving 600 Miles @ 20MPG and using 30 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $120 for Gas.

NEW - You Driving 450 Miles @ 20MPG and using 22.5 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $90 for Gas.

RESULT - Your personal Reduction of 150 Miles Driven
by 25% results in a Personal Cost Savings of 25% ~$30
per Week.

The ONLY WAY Conservation Works : Is When It Is Done
Equally By All : That Takes Some Form of Mandatory
Restrictions {Rationing} on Gas Use Age for All Drivers.

You are wrong. *Raising prices forces conservation just as well as
some stupid rule.

* Conservation does not result in independence.

*Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence.

* *Not if you own the resource.

I assume that you've never been out to the tar sands . And if you need
to go out of your way to exploit something then you are still addicted
to it. And some may question the wisdom of having a oil rigs in an area
of considerable tectonic activity.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Q...rs_1963-98.png
-
- JB

Mother Nature Says : There Is A Whole Lot Of Shaking Going On !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yRdDnrB5kM