Heard about it for the first time today 11 July 2008 while
Listening to the AM Talking Radio : The Picken's Plan
http://www.pickensplan.com/

How We Can Reduce Our Dependence on Foreign Oil ?
http://www.pickensplan.com/about/

About - T. Boone Pickens, Jr.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Boone_Pickens,_Jr.

The Pickens Plan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickens_Plan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Boon...e_Pickens_Plan


yes - i heard it on the radio ~ RHF

On Jul 12, 1:25*am, RHF wrote:
-
- Heard about it for the first time today 11 July 2008 while
- Listening to the AM Talking Radio : The Picken's Plan
- http://www.pickensplan.com/
-
- How We Can Reduce Our Dependence on Foreign Oil ?
- http://www.pickensplan.com/about/
-
- About - T. Boone Pickens, Jr.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Boone_Pickens,_Jr.
-
- The Pickens Plan
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickens_Plan
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Boon...e_Pickens_Plan
-
- yes - i heard it on the radio ~ RHF
- *.

Dave -asks- So you agree that more drilling won't help ?

RHF Replies : Dave - No !

More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and
in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are
Creating New Millionaires right here in the US
-versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda
and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.

CONCEPTS :
* U.S. Energy Independence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Energy_Independence
* Set America Free Coalition
http://www.setamericafree.org/
* North American Energy Independence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Independence
Mexico & Canada & The USofA producing their own Energy

DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE :

1a - Drill for Today's Needs right here in the USA
1b - Better Cafa Standards for American Cars and Trucks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpora...e_Fuel_Economy

2 - The Pickens Plan for the new Sources of Energy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickens_Plan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Boon...e_Pickens_Plan

3 - Clean Coal Technology & Coal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_coal_technology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal#World_coal_reserves

4 - Expanded Hydro & Solar & Wind Power Generation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydro_power
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Power
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_Power

5 - The Hybrid Car and Alternative Fuels
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_car
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_fuels

6 - Fuel Cell Technology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell

7 - Improved Nation Wide Rail Transportion System
for Freight and Passengers
http://www.aar.org/PubCommon/Documen...y/Overview.pdf

8 . . . and a lot more tbd ~ RHF

RHF wrote:


RHF Replies : Dave - No !

More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and
in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are
Creating New Millionaires right here in the US
-versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda
and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.

WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"?

Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices. Period.

On Jul 12, 10:14*am, Dave wrote:
- - RHF wrote:
- -
- - RHF Replies : Dave - No !
- - More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and
- - in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are
- - Creating New Millionaires right here in the US
- - versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda
- - and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.

- WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"?

-wrt- Islamofascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism

- Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices.
-*Period.

Dave - 'Increased Supply' and 'Reduced Demand'
is the only way to permanently Reduce Prices [.]

The one thing that personal 'conservation' does is to
Reduce your overall Personal {out-fo-pocket} Cost to
You in the Short Term.

OLD - You Driving 600 Miles @ 20MPG and using 30 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $120 for Gas.

NEW - You Driving 450 Miles @ 20MPG and using 22.5 Gallons
of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost
of $90 for Gas.

RESULT - Your personal Reduction of 150 Miles Driven
by 25% results in a Personal Cost Savings of 25% ~$30
per Week.

The ONLY WAY Conservation Works : Is When It Is Done
Equally By All : That Takes Some Form of Mandatory
Restrictions {Rationing} on Gas Use Age for All Drivers.
* Mandatory Car Pooling : Four Occupants per Vehicle
is a Toll Free Ride.
* Federal Surcharges of $3~$5 for Single Occupant
Vehicles using Toll Roads and Bridges.
* Double the Traffic Fines for Single Occupant Vehicles.
* Alternative Odd-Even Gas Fill-Up Days
* 15 Gallon Limit on Fill-Ups
* No High School Students Driving to School
{Close High School Student Parking Lots}
* Uniform Annual Federal CAFE Standards Tax
on All Cars and Trucks collected by the States
as part of the Annual Vehicle Registration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpora...e_Fuel_Economy
40 MPG and above Tax Free and an Annual Tax
of $10 per MPG below 40 MPG
-Examples-
25 MPG Car ~ $150
15 MPG SUV ~ $250

-Note- Big Rig {Tractor & Trailer} Freight Exception
for all the above.

dave - ok that's it for now - cause . . .
i am running out of gas ;-} ~ RHF

On Jul 12, 1:14*pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

RHF Replies : Dave - No !

More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and
in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are
Creating New Millionaires right here in the US
-versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda
and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.

WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"?

Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices. *Period.

Agree.. Don't Drive if you don't have to.

ride a friggin bike fer crist sake,

Buy 2700 K Compact Florescent Bulbe

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...99.html?page=6

- and immediatly Drill Off shore..

tow a rig out there, stick a pipe down

up comes Gasoline

( & Then Exxon Sells it to The Highest Bidder )

On Jul 13, 5:47*am, harvey wrote:
On Jul 12, 1:14*pm, Dave wrote:

RHF wrote:

RHF Replies : Dave - No !

More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and
in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are
Creating New Millionaires right here in the US
-versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda
and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists.

WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"?

Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices. *Period.

Agree.. Don't Drive if you don't have to.

ride a friggin bike fer crist sake,

Buy 2700 K *Compact Florescent Bulbe

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...vement/4215199...

- - and immediatly Drill Off shore..
-
- tow a rig out there, stick a pipe down
-
- up comes Gasoline
-
- ( & Then Exxon Sells it to The Highest Bidder )

First Law of All American Energy Independence :
No Selling of American Oil Abroad [.]

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic39902.html

Produce more cars

sell them to China and India and Saudi Arabia

they all need gasoline

Price goes up.






On Jul 12, 4:25 am, RHF wrote:
Heard about it for the first time today 11 July 2008 while
Listening to the AM Talking Radio : The Picken's Planhttp://www.pickensplan.com/

How We Can Reduce Our Dependence on Foreign Oil ?http://www.pickensplan.com/about/

About - T. Boone Pickens, Jr.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Boone_Pickens,_Jr.

The Pickens Planhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickens_Planhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Boone_Pickens,_Jr.#The_Pickens_Plan

yes - i heard it on the radio ~ RHF
.

harvey wrote:

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic39902.html

Produce more cars

sell them to China and India and Saudi Arabia

they all need gasoline

Price goes up.


There is no shortage of crude oil. If we make more, they make less.
Price is controlled by value of the dollar as much as anything.

In article ,
Dave wrote:

harvey wrote:

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic39902.html

Produce more cars

sell them to China and India and Saudi Arabia

they all need gasoline

Price goes up.


There is no shortage of crude oil. If we make more, they make less.
Price is controlled by value of the dollar as much as anything.

What a nut case.

I'm putting your brain on Ebay for a minimum bid of $0.10

I figure someone will pay it just to kick it around.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

There is no shortage of crude oil. If we make more, they make less.
Price is controlled by value of the dollar as much as anything.

What a nut case.

I'm putting your brain on Ebay for a minimum bid of $0.10

I figure someone will pay it just to kick it around.


D. Peter Maus said there's so much of it that it's bubbling up out of
the ocean floor. In numerous places. Is he also a nut case?


mike


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