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On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce Our Dependenceon Foreign Oil ?
John Barnard wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: Dave wrote: RHF wrote: On Jul 12, 10:14 am, Dave wrote: - - RHF wrote: - - - - RHF Replies : Dave - No ! - - More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and - - in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are - - Creating New Millionaires right here in the US - - versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda - - and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists. - WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"? -wrt- Islamofascism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism - Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices. - Period. Dave - 'Increased Supply' and 'Reduced Demand' is the only way to permanently Reduce Prices [.] The one thing that personal 'conservation' does is to Reduce your overall Personal {out-fo-pocket} Cost to You in the Short Term. OLD - You Driving 600 Miles @ 20MPG and using 30 Gallons of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost of $120 for Gas. NEW - You Driving 450 Miles @ 20MPG and using 22.5 Gallons of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost of $90 for Gas. RESULT - Your personal Reduction of 150 Miles Driven by 25% results in a Personal Cost Savings of 25% ~$30 per Week. The ONLY WAY Conservation Works : Is When It Is Done Equally By All : That Takes Some Form of Mandatory Restrictions {Rationing} on Gas Use Age for All Drivers. You are wrong. Raising prices forces conservation just as well as some stupid rule. Conservation does not result in independence. Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence. Not if you own the resource. |
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On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce Our Dependenceon Foreign Oil ?
D Peter Maus wrote:
Conservation does not result in independence. Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence. Not if you own the resource. What about CO2? What about the air? It's like we're squeezing our eyes shut and flooring it... |
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On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce OurDependenceon Foreign Oil ?
Dave wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: Conservation does not result in independence. Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence. Not if you own the resource. What about CO2? You expel CO2 (besides other noxious gases), please Rickets, stop breathing! |
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On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce Our Dependence on Foreign Oil ?
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Dave wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: Conservation does not result in independence. Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence. Not if you own the resource. What about CO2? What about the air? It's like we're squeezing our eyes shut and flooring it... What about the crap you breath into your lungs on a regular basis? All that tar, which is in far greater amounts that tobacco just to name one thing Mr. Pipe smoker. You keep this up and you will have to have carbon credits just to smoke your dope. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce OurDependence on Foreign Oil ?
On Jul 13, 11:40*am, Telamon
wrote: In article , *Dave wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: * Conservation does not result in independence. *Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence. * *Not if you own the resource. What about CO2? *What about the air? *It's like we're squeezing our eyes shut and flooring it... What about the crap you breath into your lungs on a regular basis? All that tar, which is in far greater amounts that tobacco just to name one thing Mr. Pipe smoker. You keep this up and you will have to have carbon credits just to smoke your dope. -- Telamon Ventura, California Yeah Dave - Pot Smoking Causes Air Polution [.] Just Say No To Second Hand Pot Smoke ~ RHF |
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On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce OurDependence on Foreign Oil ?
On Jul 13, 6:04*am, Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: * Conservation does not result in independence. *Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence. * *Not if you own the resource. What about CO2? *What about the air? *It's like we're squeezing our eyes shut and flooring it... Dave It's Time For You To Get Out And Walk ! It Will Clear Your Head and Aid Your Health . live well and be healthy ~ RHF |
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On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce Our Dependenceon Foreign Oil ?
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: Conservation does not result in independence. Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence. Not if you own the resource. What about CO2? What about the air? It's like we're squeezing our eyes shut and flooring it... .04% of the atmosphere. Against...well, the primary greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water. The proportions make the claims more than preposterous. |
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On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce Our Dependenceon Foreign Oil ?
D Peter Maus wrote:
John Barnard wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: Dave wrote: RHF wrote: On Jul 12, 10:14 am, Dave wrote: - - RHF wrote: - - - - RHF Replies : Dave - No ! - - More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and - - in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are - - Creating New Millionaires right here in the US - - versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda - - and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists. - WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"? -wrt- Islamofascism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism - Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices. - Period. Dave - 'Increased Supply' and 'Reduced Demand' is the only way to permanently Reduce Prices [.] The one thing that personal 'conservation' does is to Reduce your overall Personal {out-fo-pocket} Cost to You in the Short Term. OLD - You Driving 600 Miles @ 20MPG and using 30 Gallons of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost of $120 for Gas. NEW - You Driving 450 Miles @ 20MPG and using 22.5 Gallons of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost of $90 for Gas. RESULT - Your personal Reduction of 150 Miles Driven by 25% results in a Personal Cost Savings of 25% ~$30 per Week. The ONLY WAY Conservation Works : Is When It Is Done Equally By All : That Takes Some Form of Mandatory Restrictions {Rationing} on Gas Use Age for All Drivers. You are wrong. Raising prices forces conservation just as well as some stupid rule. Conservation does not result in independence. Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence. Not if you own the resource. I assume that you've never been out to the tar sands . And if you need to go out of your way to exploit something then you are still addicted to it. And some may question the wisdom of having a oil rigs in an area of considerable tectonic activity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Q...rs_1963-98.png JB |
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On-the-Radio : The Picken's Plan - How We Can Reduce OurDependence on Foreign Oil ?
On Jul 13, 12:08*pm, John Barnard wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote: John Barnard wrote: D Peter Maus wrote: Dave wrote: RHF wrote: On Jul 12, 10:14 am, Dave wrote: - - RHF wrote: - - - - RHF Replies : Dave - No ! - - More Drilling in the USofA ia Helping Every Day and - - in US States like North Dakota : New Oil Wells are - - Creating New Millionaires right here in the US - - versus- Enriching the Saudis and Funding Al Qaeda - - and the Islam-O-Fascist Terrorists. - WTF is an "Islam-O-Fascist"? -wrt- Islamofascism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism - Conservation is the only way to quickly reduce prices. - Period. Dave - 'Increased Supply' and 'Reduced Demand' is the only way to permanently Reduce Prices [.] The one thing that personal 'conservation' does is to Reduce your overall Personal {out-fo-pocket} Cost to You in the Short Term. OLD - You Driving 600 Miles @ 20MPG and using 30 Gallons of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost of $120 for Gas. NEW - You Driving 450 Miles @ 20MPG and using 22.5 Gallons of Gas a Week @ $4.00 per Gallon with a Total Weekly Cost of $90 for Gas. RESULT - Your personal Reduction of 150 Miles Driven by 25% results in a Personal Cost Savings of 25% ~$30 per Week. The ONLY WAY Conservation Works : Is When It Is Done Equally By All : That Takes Some Form of Mandatory Restrictions {Rationing} on Gas Use Age for All Drivers. You are wrong. *Raising prices forces conservation just as well as some stupid rule. * Conservation does not result in independence. *Whereas resource exploitation increases dependence. * *Not if you own the resource. I assume that you've never been out to the tar sands . And if you need to go out of your way to exploit something then you are still addicted to it. And some may question the wisdom of having a oil rigs in an area of considerable tectonic activity. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Q...rs_1963-98.png - - JB Mother Nature Says : There Is A Whole Lot Of Shaking Going On ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yRdDnrB5kM |
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