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Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...


Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references please.

The reason I ask is, if true, it seems an astoundingly impolitic
statement to be made by a sitting president.
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Billy Burpelson wrote:
Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...


Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references please.



This has been debunked.


The reason I ask is, if true, it seems an astoundingly impolitic
statement to be made by a sitting president.



No more so than the taking of the Lord's name in vain by a devout
Christian.

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D Peter Maus wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...


Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references please.



This has been debunked.

It has not been debunked. It comes from a credible reporter with solid
inside connections. He works at a reputable organization who would
withdraw it if it had been "debunked".
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Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...

Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references please.



This has been debunked.

It has not been debunked. It comes from a credible reporter with solid
inside connections. He works at a reputable organization who would
withdraw it if it had been "debunked".


Then where is the specific reference? There is none.

Name the reporter. Name the organization. I've been hearing this
statement for a number of years, now, but never where it actually came
from. I've not found any specific cite, reference, attribution, or even
quotation.

The only thing I've found is an article by Doug Thompson, in which he
claims that he's spoken with people who were in the room when this was
supposed to have been said.

Trouble is, that the number of persons he spoke to that day has
become variable: Two, then three, then two, then possibly four....

But no one else has reported it, except a few articles referring to
Thompson. And there are no direct attributions. What he's not done is
quoted anyone. This becomes, then, hearsay. And by its own content,
questionable.

Snopes.com had debunked this, and had an article posted on the site I
remember reading as late as two months ago. Looking for it this
morning, I found no reference to it at all. No surprise there.
Politically speaking, Snopes has been inconsistent in its objectivity at
best.

As it stands, it's a gratuitous assertion. A gratuitous assertion
that's been debunked. Also by those with solid inside connections.

As for retractions....well, I'll counter that with the name of Dan
Rather, who, when faced with hard evidence that his anti-Bush documents
were fakes, apologized, but insisted that the content of the faked
documents was true.



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D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...

Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references please.


This has been debunked.

It has not been debunked. It comes from a credible reporter with
solid inside connections. He works at a reputable organization who
would withdraw it if it had been "debunked".


Then where is the specific reference? There is none.

Name the reporter. Name the organization. I've been hearing this
statement for a number of years, now, but never where it actually came
from. I've not found any specific cite, reference, attribution, or even
quotation.

The only thing I've found is an article by Doug Thompson, in which he
claims that he's spoken with people who were in the room when this was
supposed to have been said.

Trouble is, that the number of persons he spoke to that day has become
variable: Two, then three, then two, then possibly four....

But no one else has reported it, except a few articles referring to
Thompson. And there are no direct attributions. What he's not done is
quoted anyone. This becomes, then, hearsay. And by its own content,
questionable.

Snopes.com had debunked this, and had an article posted on the site I
remember reading as late as two months ago. Looking for it this
morning, I found no reference to it at all. No surprise there.
Politically speaking, Snopes has been inconsistent in its objectivity at
best.

As it stands, it's a gratuitous assertion. A gratuitous assertion
that's been debunked. Also by those with solid inside connections.

As for retractions....well, I'll counter that with the name of Dan
Rather, who, when faced with hard evidence that his anti-Bush documents
were fakes, apologized, but insisted that the content of the faked
documents was true.




Capitol Hill Blue is the website for which Doug Thompson writes. A
reasonably credible news site at one time, until the owner of the site
admitted that his most used and most credible source Terrence J.
Wilkinson was a fake.

Google CapitolHillBlue+ Terrence J. Wilkinson to see for yourself.


The story has been debunked.





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D Peter Maus wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...

Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references
please.


This has been debunked.

It has not been debunked. It comes from a credible reporter with
solid inside connections. He works at a reputable organization who
would withdraw it if it had been "debunked".


Then where is the specific reference? There is none.

Name the reporter. Name the organization. I've been hearing this
statement for a number of years, now, but never where it actually came
from. I've not found any specific cite, reference, attribution, or
even quotation.

The only thing I've found is an article by Doug Thompson, in which
he claims that he's spoken with people who were in the room when this
was supposed to have been said.

Trouble is, that the number of persons he spoke to that day has
become variable: Two, then three, then two, then possibly four....

But no one else has reported it, except a few articles referring to
Thompson. And there are no direct attributions. What he's not done is
quoted anyone. This becomes, then, hearsay. And by its own content,
questionable.

Snopes.com had debunked this, and had an article posted on the site
I remember reading as late as two months ago. Looking for it this
morning, I found no reference to it at all. No surprise there.
Politically speaking, Snopes has been inconsistent in its objectivity
at best.

As it stands, it's a gratuitous assertion. A gratuitous assertion
that's been debunked. Also by those with solid inside connections.

As for retractions....well, I'll counter that with the name of Dan
Rather, who, when faced with hard evidence that his anti-Bush
documents were fakes, apologized, but insisted that the content of the
faked documents was true.




Capitol Hill Blue is the website for which Doug Thompson writes. A
reasonably credible news site at one time, until the owner of the site
admitted that his most used and most credible source Terrence J.
Wilkinson was a fake.

Google CapitolHillBlue+ Terrence J. Wilkinson to see for yourself.


The story has been debunked.



Neither bunked nor debunked. Why no official denial?
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:42:44 GMT, D Peter Maus
wrote:

D Peter Maus wrote:
Dave wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
Billy Burpelson wrote:
Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...

Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references please.


This has been debunked.

It has not been debunked. It comes from a credible reporter with
solid inside connections. He works at a reputable organization who
would withdraw it if it had been "debunked".


Then where is the specific reference? There is none.

Name the reporter. Name the organization. I've been hearing this
statement for a number of years, now, but never where it actually came
from. I've not found any specific cite, reference, attribution, or even
quotation.

The only thing I've found is an article by Doug Thompson, in which he
claims that he's spoken with people who were in the room when this was
supposed to have been said.

Trouble is, that the number of persons he spoke to that day has become
variable: Two, then three, then two, then possibly four....

But no one else has reported it, except a few articles referring to
Thompson. And there are no direct attributions. What he's not done is
quoted anyone. This becomes, then, hearsay. And by its own content,
questionable.

Snopes.com had debunked this, and had an article posted on the site I
remember reading as late as two months ago. Looking for it this
morning, I found no reference to it at all. No surprise there.
Politically speaking, Snopes has been inconsistent in its objectivity at
best.

As it stands, it's a gratuitous assertion. A gratuitous assertion
that's been debunked. Also by those with solid inside connections.

As for retractions....well, I'll counter that with the name of Dan
Rather, who, when faced with hard evidence that his anti-Bush documents
were fakes, apologized, but insisted that the content of the faked
documents was true.




Capitol Hill Blue is the website for which Doug Thompson writes. A
reasonably credible news site at one time, until the owner of the site
admitted that his most used and most credible source Terrence J.
Wilkinson was a fake.

Google CapitolHillBlue+ Terrence J. Wilkinson to see for yourself.


The story has been debunked.



Well, regardless of what Cheny said or did not say, the Bush
administration's actions are often at odds with the U.S. constitution,
the Geneva agreements against torture, and international law in
general.

Seven months and counting...

bob
k5qwg
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Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...


Billy Burpelson wrote:

Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references
please. The reason I ask is, if true, it seems an astoundingly
impolitic statement to be made by a sitting president.


D Peter Maus wrote:

No more so than the taking of the Lord's name in vain by a devout
Christian.


First, over the last 7 1/2 years of his administration, numerous news
sources have had numerous news articles about W's profanity laced
tirades and outbursts. Are you contending all of those news stories are
fake?

Finally, it's interesting that you think a "devout Christian" would not
use vulgarity while apparently it does not bother or concern you that
this "devout Christian" lied us into a bogus war* that has taken
thousands of innocent lives.

* Please review the blue-ribbon, BI-PARTISAN Congressional panel that
has stated the same.

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Billy Burpelson wrote:


Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...


Billy Burpelson wrote:

Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references
please. The reason I ask is, if true, it seems an astoundingly
impolitic statement to be made by a sitting president.


D Peter Maus wrote:

No more so than the taking of the Lord's name in vain by a devout
Christian.


First, over the last 7 1/2 years of his administration, numerous news
sources have had numerous news articles about W's profanity laced
tirades and outbursts. Are you contending all of those news stories are
fake?

Finally, it's interesting that you think a "devout Christian" would not
use vulgarity while apparently it does not bother or concern you that
this "devout Christian" lied us into a bogus war* that has taken
thousands of innocent lives.

* Please review the blue-ribbon, BI-PARTISAN Congressional panel that
has stated the same.


LOL!
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In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:



Tex wrote:

Why let a "god damn piece of paper" like the U.S. Constitution...


Billy Burpelson wrote:

Was this actually said by Bush? Direct quote? If so, references
please. The reason I ask is, if true, it seems an astoundingly
impolitic statement to be made by a sitting president.


D Peter Maus wrote:

No more so than the taking of the Lord's name in vain by a devout
Christian.


First, over the last 7 1/2 years of his administration, numerous news
sources have had numerous news articles about W's profanity laced
tirades and outbursts. Are you contending all of those news stories are
fake?


SNIP

Where do you get this stuff? In the tabloids?

I have never heard of this on domestic radio, SW, or numerous news
sources on the Internet.

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Ventura, California


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