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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter in NewYork State
Alec wrote:
Back at about the same time the BBC had (and still has) a powerful transmitter on 200khz (now198) a local farmer who lived close to the station built a large tuning coil in the loft and lit his house using fluorescent tubes. He was successfully prosecuted for stealing electricity or something similar. Please provide citations for this story; it retells what appears to be an "urban legend". Here is another take on the story: =============QUOTED MATERIAL========================================= From: "Steve Maudsley" Message-ID: Newsgroups: uk.legal Subject: Theft of electricity? Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:12:00 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.103.216.21 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:14:40 GMT Organization: Virgin Net Usenet Service "Jeff" wrote in message ... But a transformer still involves a direct physical connection to the mains via the primary. The primary is consuming current via its physical connection, whatever may happen to the current after it has entered the primary. The power line *is the primary*!! It is just that the secondary is separated from it by a larger distance than normal. In any case I believe that someone was prosecuted some years ago for doing what it being suggested. I do recall a story about 30 years ago (possibly apocryphal) about a farmer who lived on the UK side of the Radio Luxemburg transmitter and powered his cattle shed from the radio waves, and was prosecuted. Radio Luxemburg had some sort of phased array and the cows electrical use disrupted the beam. ================END OF QUOTED MATERIAL==================================== Michael |
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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter in NewYork State
On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:59:56 -0500, msg wrote:
Alec wrote: Back at about the same time the BBC had (and still has) a powerful transmitter on 200khz (now198) a local farmer who lived close to the station built a large tuning coil in the loft and lit his house using fluorescent tubes. He was successfully prosecuted for stealing electricity or something similar. Please provide citations for this story; it retells what appears to be an "urban legend". Here is another take on the story: =============QUOTED MATERIAL========================================= From: "Steve Maudsley" Message-ID: Newsgroups: uk.legal Subject: Theft of electricity? Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:12:00 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.103.216.21 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 18:14:40 GMT Organization: Virgin Net Usenet Service "Jeff" wrote in message ... But a transformer still involves a direct physical connection to the mains via the primary. The primary is consuming current via its physical connection, whatever may happen to the current after it has entered the primary. The power line *is the primary*!! It is just that the secondary is separated from it by a larger distance than normal. In any case I believe that someone was prosecuted some years ago for doing what it being suggested. I do recall a story about 30 years ago (possibly apocryphal) about a farmer who lived on the UK side of the Radio Luxemburg transmitter and powered his cattle shed from the radio waves, and was prosecuted. Radio Luxemburg had some sort of phased array and the cows electrical use disrupted the beam. ================END OF QUOTED MATERIAL==================================== Michael Didn't Tesla propose using DC current, basically broadcast/produced from thousands of transmitters. In order to use the electrical current/field, all one had to do was ground one side/wire to Earth. The other side or wire would be the receptor/antenna for lack of a better term. I'm not a technical person but I think I have the basic premise right. |
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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter in NewYorkState
christopher wrote: Didn't Tesla propose using DC current, basically broadcast/produced from thousands of transmitters. In order to use the electrical current/field, all one had to do was ground one side/wire to Earth. The other side or wire would be the receptor/antenna for lack of a better term. I'm not a technical person but I think I have the basic premise right. No. It wasn't DC, since DC is direct current. That was Edison who would have needed a power plant every half mile or so. Tesla was hyping "Broadcast power" which was lossy broadband RF power that would wipe out most of the usable RF spectrum. Due to the 'Inverse Square Law', it was impractical, and always will be. Tesla was responsible for AC power distribution, which ****ed Edison off. -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy. |
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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter in NewYorkState
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Tesla was responsible for AC power distribution, which ****ed Edison off. Rumor was that Edison couldn't understand how one could measure 120 volts between any two of three terminals. -- 73, Cecil http://www.w5dxp.com |
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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter in NewYork State
Rumor was that Edison couldn't understand how one could measure 120 volts between any two of three terminals. No rumor about it. Westinghouse published several papers on electricity where he described voltage and current phase and had a true understanding of it. Edison was a hands-on experimenter who had little theoretical physics or mathematics background. That's why the two had a feud about AC vs DC. After Edison's assistant died of radiation poisoning, he was very leary of things he didn't understand and tried to convince people that AC current was just too dangerous. He also refused any more experiments concerning radiation. |
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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter in NewYorkState
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
christopher wrote: Didn't Tesla propose using DC current, basically broadcast/produced from thousands of transmitters. In order to use the electrical current/field, all one had to do was ground one side/wire to Earth. The other side or wire would be the receptor/antenna for lack of a better term. I'm not a technical person but I think I have the basic premise right. No. It wasn't DC, since DC is direct current. That was Edison who would have needed a power plant every half mile or so. Tesla was hyping "Broadcast power" which was lossy broadband RF power that would wipe out most of the usable RF spectrum. Due to the 'Inverse Square Law', it was impractical, and always will be. Tesla was responsible for AC power distribution, which ****ed Edison off. Tesla worked for Edison when he came up with AC power distribution. Edison favored DC for some reason and Tesla quit and went to work for Westinghouse. When the electric chair was proposed Edison did everything he could to discredit it because it used Tesla's AC power. Dave N |
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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter inNewY...
Nikola Tesla owned a Pierce Arrow car which he converted to run on
wireless electricity.He installed an AC motor in the car, no battery power to the AC motor.He said his car gets it's power from the ether all around us. How did he do that? www.reformation.org/nikoa-tesla.html cuhulin |
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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter inNewY...
Oh, I see now.I mispelled Nikola in that URL.I blame it on my keyboard.
Hey, Dr.Strangelove movie is crakin up on the TCM channel now. cuhulin |
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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter inNewY...
I have been fooling around with electricity since I was about six years
old when another kid dared me to stick my finger in a light bulb socket.ZAPP! How do you know Nikola Tesla didn't run that Pierce Arrow car on wireless electricity? I believe he did. I typed that URL correctly in my previous post.It worked for me when I first typed it and clicked on it. cuhulin |
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The Strange True Story of a Radio Station's Transmitter in NewYork State
"David G. Nagel" wrote in message ... Tesla worked for Edison when he came up with AC power distribution. Edison favored DC for some reason and Tesla quit and went to work for Westinghouse. When the electric chair was proposed Edison did everything he could to discredit it because it used Tesla's AC power. "The first electric chair was made by Harold P. Brown. Brown was an employee of Thomas Edison, hired for the purpose of researching electrocution and for the development of the electric chair. Since Brown worked for Edison, and Edison promoted Brown's work, the development of the electric chair is often erroneously credited to Edison himself. Brown's design was based on use of Nikola Tesla's alternating current (AC), which was marketed by George Westinghouse and was then just emerging as the rival to Edison's less transport-efficient direct current (DC), which was further along in commercial development. The decision to use AC was partly driven by Edison's claims that AC was more lethal than DC." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_chair John H. |
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