wrote:

It’s a dramatic idea that would change infrastructure reaching back to the
very roots of our industry. A group made up primarily of broadcast
consulting engineers proposes a new use for TV Channels 5 and 6 in the
United States once their occupants migrate to digital. It recommends the
reallocation of part of that spectrum for the use of the country’s AM
stations.

Looks like a sleazy way to be able to charge people for what they now
get for nothing. There's no other explanation. Why don't they move the
interference causing IBOC station up there instead of the normal AM
operations? This thing isn't designed to save AM. If it's true that
there isn't an audience now, why should being forced to buy a new radio
solve the problem? Once everything is digital, the subscriber card
needed to make it all work is with us.


mike


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m II wrote:
wrote:

It’s a dramatic idea that would change infrastructure reaching back to the
very roots of our industry. A group made up primarily of broadcast
consulting engineers proposes a new use for TV Channels 5 and 6 in the
United States once their occupants migrate to digital. It recommends the
reallocation of part of that spectrum for the use of the country’s AM
stations.

Looks like a sleazy way to be able to charge people for what they now
get for nothing. There's no other explanation. Why don't they move the
interference causing IBOC station up there instead of the normal AM
operations? This thing isn't designed to save AM. If it's true that
there isn't an audience now, why should being forced to buy a new radio
solve the problem? Once everything is digital, the subscriber card
needed to make it all work is with us.


mike


What about places where FM doesn't work? AM radio is all we got.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
m II wrote:
wrote:

It's a dramatic idea that would change infrastructure reaching back to
the
very roots of our industry. A group made up primarily of broadcast
consulting engineers proposes a new use for TV Channels 5 and 6 in the
United States once their occupants migrate to digital. It recommends
the
reallocation of part of that spectrum for the use of the country's AM
stations.

Looks like a sleazy way to be able to charge people for what they now
get for nothing. There's no other explanation. Why don't they move the
interference causing IBOC station up there instead of the normal AM
operations? This thing isn't designed to save AM. If it's true that
there isn't an audience now, why should being forced to buy a new radio
solve the problem? Once everything is digital, the subscriber card
needed to make it all work is with us.


mike


What about places where FM doesn't work? AM radio is all we got.

Not to mention that the VHF TV channels are NOT going away when analog goes
dark next February. Those with analog channels on VHF and DTV on UHF will,
for the most part, move their DTV to their VHF channels when analog goes
dark.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
m II wrote:
wrote:

It's a dramatic idea that would change infrastructure reaching back to
the
very roots of our industry. A group made up primarily of broadcast
consulting engineers proposes a new use for TV Channels 5 and 6 in the
United States once their occupants migrate to digital. It recommends
the
reallocation of part of that spectrum for the use of the country's AM
stations.

Looks like a sleazy way to be able to charge people for what they now
get for nothing. There's no other explanation. Why don't they move the
interference causing IBOC station up there instead of the normal AM
operations? This thing isn't designed to save AM. If it's true that
there isn't an audience now, why should being forced to buy a new radio
solve the problem? Once everything is digital, the subscriber card
needed to make it all work is with us.


mike


What about places where FM doesn't work? AM radio is all we got.

Not to mention that the VHF TV channels are NOT going away when analog
goes dark next February. Those with analog channels on VHF and DTV on UHF
will, for the most part, move their DTV to their VHF channels when analog
goes dark.


Oh, also, the bandplan bytes... channels are too close together at 100 KHz,
especially for LPFM's which are required by law to maintain a minimum 600
KHz spacing.

Dave wrote:

What about places where FM doesn't work? AM radio is all we got.

I should have been clearer in my posting. If they move anything out of
the AM band, it should be only the IBOC noise makers. All the normal AM
stations stay exactly where they are.

In my own case, I listen to more AM than FM. I can't help but think that
moving the whole of the AM band to another venue will be nothing more
than a money grab, with pay as you go subscription cards.



mike
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On Aug 7, 7:39*am, m II wrote:
Dave wrote:
What about places where FM doesn't work? *AM radio is all we got.

I should have been clearer in my posting. If they move anything out of
the AM band, it should be only the IBOC noise makers. All the normal AM
stations stay exactly where they are.

In my own case, I listen to more AM than FM. I can't help but think that
moving the whole of the AM band to another venue will be nothing more
than a money grab, with pay as you go subscription cards.

mike
--

The AM/MW Radio Band in the USA needs to have the
number of Radio Stations reduced by Half to 2/3rds or
even down to 1/4th.

Move the excess AM/MW Radio Stations to an expanded
FM Radio Band that is All Digital.

~ RHF

On Aug 7, 1:53*pm, RHF wrote:
On Aug 7, 7:39*am, m II wrote:

Dave wrote:
What about places where FM doesn't work? *AM radio is all we got.

I should have been clearer in my posting. If they move anything out of
the AM band, it should be only the IBOC noise makers. All the normal AM
stations stay exactly where they are.

In my own case, I listen to more AM than FM. I can't help but think that
moving the whole of the AM band to another venue will be nothing more
than a money grab, with pay as you go subscription cards.

mike
--

The AM/MW Radio Band in the USA needs to have the
number of Radio Stations reduced by Half to 2/3rds or
even down to 1/4th.

Move the excess AM/MW Radio Stations to an expanded
FM Radio Band that is All Digital.

~ RHF
*

I think everyone would agree that medium wave is badly overcrowded,
especially if you listen to the jumbled mess you can often hear at
night.

However, given the MASSIVE duplication of programming content on AM
radio -- especially at night when you can't swing a dead cat without
hearing "Coast to Coast AM" on about a zillion different stations, but
even during the daytime with syndicated shows being found on multiple
places on the dial almost anywhere you go, why not just get rid of the
excess stations?

If a station doesn't carry some minimum of locally-produced content,
why not just cancel their license? It's hard to argue that being the
third or fourth station in a market to carry Sean Hannity or Doctor
Laura is in the public interest in any significant way. It's just
wasting spectrum. If the stations can't come up with their own
content, they should go dark and leave room for stations that can.

Problem solved. And better programming results when the remaining
stations serve their communities.

Simple!

wrote:
On Aug 7, 1:53 pm, RHF wrote:
On Aug 7, 7:39 am, m II wrote:

Dave wrote:
What about places where FM doesn't work? AM radio is all we got.
I should have been clearer in my posting. If they move anything out of
the AM band, it should be only the IBOC noise makers. All the normal AM
stations stay exactly where they are.
In my own case, I listen to more AM than FM. I can't help but think that
moving the whole of the AM band to another venue will be nothing more
than a money grab, with pay as you go subscription cards.
mike
--
The AM/MW Radio Band in the USA needs to have the
number of Radio Stations reduced by Half to 2/3rds or
even down to 1/4th.

Move the excess AM/MW Radio Stations to an expanded
FM Radio Band that is All Digital.

~ RHF


I think everyone would agree that medium wave is badly overcrowded,
especially if you listen to the jumbled mess you can often hear at
night.

I wouldn't say overcrowded, it more conditions. 30 years ago, night-
time was all about the clears, and most local were low power at night.

However, given the MASSIVE duplication of programming content on AM
radio -- especially at night when you can't swing a dead cat without
hearing "Coast to Coast AM" on about a zillion different stations, but
even during the daytime with syndicated shows being found on multiple
places on the dial almost anywhere you go, why not just get rid of the
excess stations?

Duplication is the main trouble today. the only difference with the
locals is news and sponsor spots. my fav local is a little 5Kw daylight
and 500w night. it can be a bit hard to pull in, but programing is
about 80% local. mom and pop style station.

If a station doesn't carry some minimum of locally-produced content,
why not just cancel their license? It's hard to argue that being the
third or fourth station in a market to carry Sean Hannity or Doctor
Laura is in the public interest in any significant way. It's just
wasting spectrum. If the stations can't come up with their own
content, they should go dark and leave room for stations that can.

you right and i'm all for that. i get so tired of the hate and lies
on talk radio.


Problem solved. And better programming results when the remaining
stations serve their communities.

Simple!


Drifter...

Drifter wrote:

you right and i'm all for that. i get so tired of the hate and lies
on talk radio.

And it comes from both sides of the political scene. The Hosts on those
shows are just entertainers. It is in their own interest to get the
audience worked up. If that takes mis-representation or sensationalism
to do, that is what they do. It's junk information.

Talk radio is to Truth as Pro wrestling is to Sport.


mike


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"Drifter" wrote in message
news
wrote:

I wouldn't say overcrowded, it more conditions. 30 years ago, night-
time was all about the clears, and most local were low power at night.

There is practically no difference in night operation of AM in either
quantity or power of stations between 1978 and today.