D Peter Maus wrote:
* *I don't have health insurance. I don't want it.

* *I can name 3 of my colleagues who don't have it, either. And
don't want it.


Perhaps you are very well off and can write a check for whatever
medical expenses you need. Or perhaps you don't expect to have any
serious health issues.

But for most middle-class Americans, a serious illness or injury to
themselves or a family member could wipe them out financially if they
did not have health insurance. I make a good salary, but I wouldn't
risk my family's well-being by not having health insurance.

By the way, Obama's health plan (unlike Hillary's) is not mandatory,
so you won't have to be part of it if you don't want to be.

Art Harris

Art Harris wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
I don't have health insurance. I don't want it.

I can name 3 of my colleagues who don't have it, either. And
don't want it.


Perhaps you are very well off and can write a check for whatever
medical expenses you need. Or perhaps you don't expect to have any
serious health issues.

But for most middle-class Americans, a serious illness or injury to
themselves or a family member could wipe them out financially if they
did not have health insurance. I make a good salary, but I wouldn't
risk my family's well-being by not having health insurance.

By the way, Obama's health plan (unlike Hillary's) is not mandatory,
so you won't have to be part of it if you don't want to be.

Art Harris


You missed the point....Agreeing with your statements above, the
noise is the claim that 47 millions Americans don't have health
insurance and that constitutes a crisis. The fact is, that there are
those who don't have it, and don't want it, rendering that 47
million figure a misrepresentation of the actual issue under
discussion.

D Peter Maus wrote:

You missed the point....Agreeing with your statements above, the noise
is the claim that 47 millions Americans don't have health insurance and
that constitutes a crisis. The fact is, that there are those who don't
have it, and don't want it, rendering that 47 million figure a
misrepresentation of the actual issue under discussion.

Before you can say that, you have to provide the percentage of the 47
million that don't want it. 1 million? 46.5 million?

Would you care to provide an approximate figure of how many of the 47
million 'don't want it' or at least speculate?

Possibly you are splitting hairs or addressing the 'exception that
proves the rule'?

As a fact, medical care is -extremely- expensive and common sense would
dictate that a very large portion of those 47 million, given a choice,
-would- prefer to have health care insurance (you and your 3 friends
excepted of course).

Billy Burpelson wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:

You missed the point....Agreeing with your statements above, the
noise is the claim that 47 millions Americans don't have health
insurance and that constitutes a crisis. The fact is, that there are
those who don't have it, and don't want it, rendering that 47 million
figure a misrepresentation of the actual issue under discussion.

Before you can say that, you have to provide the percentage of the 47
million that don't want it. 1 million? 46.5 million?



That's exactly my point. That figure is never provided when the
'crisis' is declared. A claim of crisis based on an absence of fact.

D Peter Maus wrote:

* *You missed the point....Agreeing with your statements above, the
noise is the claim that 47 millions Americans don't have health
insurance and that constitutes a crisis. The fact is, that there are
those who don't have it, and don't want it, rendering that 47
million figure a misrepresentation of the actual issue under
discussion

Most "don't want it" for the same reason I don't want a Rolls Royce
(too expensive). And then there are young people who think they're
going to stay healthy and live forever. But when they're on death's
door, they will go to the emergency room and the rest of us will pick
up the tab.

The number of Americans who truly don't want health insurance is very
small. Lack of access to health care IS a crisis for those who have
lost jobs, or whose employers don't offer coverage.

Every other industrial nation has some form of universal health care
for their citizens. Sooner or later the US will too.

Art Harris

Art Harris wrote:
D Peter Maus wrote:
You missed the point....Agreeing with your statements above, the
noise is the claim that 47 millions Americans don't have health
insurance and that constitutes a crisis. The fact is, that there are
those who don't have it, and don't want it, rendering that 47
million figure a misrepresentation of the actual issue under
discussion

Most "don't want it" for the same reason I don't want a Rolls Royce
(too expensive). And then there are young people who think they're
going to stay healthy and live forever. But when they're on death's
door, they will go to the emergency room and the rest of us will pick
up the tab.

The number of Americans who truly don't want health insurance is very
small.


That may be true. I know, however, in my circles of
colleagues/friends, only 1 in 3 has health insurance, and those that
do not have it, do not want it. The number nationwide may be
surprising. But it's a number that's not reported.

All of your points about those who want health insurance are
valid. And I'm not arguing with any of them. You are correct.

My point is that to claim everyone who is not insured is in
crisis is disingenuous. If not misleading.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:09:17 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

That may be true. I know, however, in my circles of
colleagues/friends, only 1 in 3 has health insurance, and those that do
not have it, do not want it. The number nationwide may be surprising.
But it's a number that's not reported.

All of your points about those who want health insurance are
valid. And I'm not arguing with any of them. You are correct.

My point is that to claim everyone who is not insured is in
crisis is disingenuous. If not misleading.

You guys must be fabulously wealthy to take a risk like that. A broken
leg can cost five figures these days.

Burpelson Air Force Base?
How I learned to stop worrying,,,,,,

I have Physicians Mutual insurance.If I need to go to a hospital I will
go to www.stdom.com
I don't trust the VA center.
cuhulin

On Aug 27, 5:25*pm, wrote:
Burpelson Air Force Base?
How I learned to stop worrying,,,,,,

I have Physicians Mutual insurance.If I need to go to a hospital I will
go to * *www.stdom.com

- I don't trust the VA center.
- cuhulin

Since the US Congress is only Funding ~55%
of the true cost of US Veterans Health Care :
Cuhulin you are wise not to 'trust' the VA.

The US Congress is now funding more Health
Care of Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico then
for our US Veterans.

There should be a 50% Tax on All Remittances
(Cash/Wired) to Mexico to Pay for the Actual Cost
of Health Care of Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico.

~ RHF

Dave wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:09:17 +0000, D Peter Maus wrote:

That may be true. I know, however, in my circles of
colleagues/friends, only 1 in 3 has health insurance, and those that do
not have it, do not want it. The number nationwide may be surprising.
But it's a number that's not reported.

All of your points about those who want health insurance are
valid. And I'm not arguing with any of them. You are correct.

My point is that to claim everyone who is not insured is in
crisis is disingenuous. If not misleading.

You guys must be fabulously wealthy to take a risk like that. A broken
leg can cost five figures these days.


Six.