Obama’s Church: It’s Covert Ties to Black Extremism and Communism

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....munism-part-1/
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Reds, Radicals, Terrorists and Traitors — Progressives For Obama

from http://TheRealBarackObama.wordpress.com

Barack Obama did not rise to prominence solely on his own merits

His career has been supported for many years by a socialist network,
based in Chicago, but now reaching into every state of the US.

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/...legacy-of.html

The network is an activist matrix led by former members of the ’60s
radical organisation Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6723

and supporters of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA),
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6428
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/...obama-and.html

Communist Party USA (CPUSA)
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/...communist.html

and the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism
(CCDS).
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/08/...leninists.html

The network has links to hundreds of leftist organisations including
the

Black Radical Congress,
http://www.blackradicalcongress.org

Progressive Democrats of America,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=7123

United For Peace & Justice,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6166

USAction,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6729

ACORN
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6968

and several major trade unions.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6535

The network has been co-operating since at least the early 1980s.
Parts of it came together behind Jesse Jackson’s failed 1988 US
presidential bid

and again in the late ’90s New Party
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=7434
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/08/...a-danny-k.html

which helped launch Barack Obama’s successful bid for the Illinois
State Senate.

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/...ed-by-far.html

Now the network has come together to put Barack Obama in the White
House.

Their ambition doesn’t end there however. The network wants to build a
movement that will be able to pressure an Obama presidency into
legislating for massive social change. They want to relive the 1930s
and 1960s with a new “New Deal” and a new civil rights movement.

One prominent tip of the socialist iceberg is a comparitively new
organisation–Progressives for Obama (PFO).

According to the PFO website

"We agree that Barack Obama is our best option for President in 2008,
and that an independent grassroots effort can help strengthen his
campaign.

"It can also strengthen the mandate for his programs for stopping war,
promoting global justice and securing our rights, liberties, and
economic well-being. More important, independent organization at the
base is needed for compelling social change no matter who is in the
White House.

"We have understood, from the beginning, that Senator Obama is not a
consistent progressive, and often speaks to and from the center of our
country’s political spectrum–sometimes well, sometimes not. All the
more reason, we think, to organize a strong progressive pole,
independent of his campaign, to counter rightward drift and push him
to do better on issues that will win him more solid and wider support.

"We don’t attempt to define ‘progressive’ here. We’re open to all
trends, from the socialist left to moderate liberals, who want not
only to defeat McCain, but also build the grassroots organizations and
networks for wider and deeper change over the longer term.

Writing in The Nation, March 24, 2008,

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080407/hayden_et_al

PGO founder Tom Hayden, Bill Fletcher Jr., Danny Glover and Barbara
Ehrenreich explained

"During past progressive peaks in our political history — the late
Thirties, the early Sixties — social movements have provided the
relentless pressure and innovative ideas that allowed centrist leaders
to embrace visionary solutions. We find ourselves in just such a
situation today.

"We intend to join and engage with our brothers and sisters in the
vast rainbow of social movements to come together in support of
Obama’s unprecedented campaign and candidacy. Even though it is
candidate-centered, there is no doubt that the campaign is a social
movement, one greater than the candidate himself ever imagined.

The four founders of PFO a

TOM HAYDEN — Author of Ending the War in Iraq, a five-time Democratic
convention delegate, former state senator, and board member of the
Progressive Democrats of America. Hayden was also a founder in 1964 of
SDS. According to Discover the Networks
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1334

During the Vietnam War, Hayden traveled many times to North Vietnam,
Czechoslovakia, and Paris to strategize with Communist North
Vietnamese and Viet Cong leaders on how to defeat America’s anti-
Communist efforts. He came back from Hanoi proclaiming he had seen
“rice roots democracy at work.” According to people who were present
at the time…Hayden offered advice on conducting psychological warfare
against the U.S.

BILL FLETCHER — Originator of the call for founding “Progressives for
Obama”, is the executive editor of Black Commentator, and founder of
the Center for Labor Renewal.

Fletcher is a former Maoist and is currently a leader of Democratic
Socialists of America (DSA). In 1998 he was also a founding member of
the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) / CCDS / DSA dominated Black Radical
Congress.
http://www.blackradicalcongress.org/index.html

BARBARA EHRENREICH — With Hayden, Ehrenreich is a member of The
Nation’s editorial board. She is an honorary chairman of DSA and was
formerly active in the New American Movement-led largely by former SDS
and CPUSA activists. According to Discover the Networks
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1058

When the Communist Manifesto was re-released on its 150th anniversary
in 1998, Ehrenreich celebrated the event. She noted that in producing
the Manifesto as a commercial product, capitalists were — as Lenin had
once predicted — providing the rope that eventually would hang them.

DANNY GLOVER — An actor, activist, and chairman of the board of
TransAfrica — where he works with two former Communist Party front
activists Harry Belafonte and Johnetta Cole.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i....asp?indid=837
..
Glover is also close to former Berkely mayor Gus Newport, once linked
to CPUSA and now active in both DSA and CCDS. He has also been
involved with the Black Radical Congress. Glover has close ties to
Cuba and according to Discover the Network

"On several occasions, Glover has visited Venezuela and made guest
appearances on President Hugo Chavez’s television and radio talk show,
Hello, President. Glover is a Board member of Venezuela’s “TeleSUR”
news network, which Chavez created in 2005.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1119

The list of endorsers on the Progressives for Obama website further
illustrates the socialist nature of the organisation

They include:

Rosalyn Baxandall — Marxist.

Paul Buhle — A former member of SDS, one time editor of the original
SDS journal Radical America. Currently a DSA leader.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2020

Malcolm Burnstein — Progressive Caucus, California Democratic Party.
Formerly active in the communist front National Lawyers Guild.
Formerly a partner in the CPUSA linked San Francisco Bay Area law firm
of Truehaft, Walker and Burnstein, that once employed a young
Hillary Rodham (Clinton)
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...e.asp?indid=18

Duane Campbell — Sacramento Progressive Alliance, Anti-Racism and
Latino Commission of DSA.
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/...with-dsa..html

Jim Campbell — CCDS National Co-chair

Steve Cobble — Progressive Democrats of America, formerly with the New
Party and affiliated with the ultra radical, Cuban linked, Institute
for Policy Studies.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6991

Barry Cohen — NJ Institute of Technology, CCDS member, formerly with
Communist Partry USA.

Carl Davidson — PFO webmaster. Former SDS, later involved with Maoist
groups and in the ’90s with Barack Obama in the New Party. On the
national council of CCDS.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2322
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/...a-courted.html

Peter Dreier –Occidental College, DSA member.

Thorne Dreyer — former SDS member
Mickey Flacks — former SDS member.
Richard Flacks — Husband of Mickey, former SDS member. Active in Santa
Barbara DSA.

Jane Fonda (”Hanoi Jane”) — former wife of Tom Hayden. [see above]
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1326

Aviva Futorian — Associated with Obama in the DSA infiltrated
Independent Voters of Illinois.
Christine George — Researcher and Unversity Teacher. Associated with
Chicago DSA.

Todd Gitlin — Columbia University. Former SDS leader.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2210

Jorge Gonzalez — Cuba Journal.
Thomas Good — Communist turned anarchist.
David Hamilton — ex SDS

Harold Jacobs — historian of the SDS terrorist offshot, the Weather
Underground.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=7320

Michael James — Heartland Cafe, 49th Ward Democrats Chicago. Former
SDS member.

Zenobia Johnson — Black National Organisation of African-Americans in
Housing, Chicago. Wife of Obama’s friend and supporter Timuel Black of
the CCDS Advisory Board.
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/...genarians.html

Marilyn Katz — Former Chicago SDS chief of security. Helped found
Chicagoans Against War on Iraq, with Carl Davidson [see above]. The
pair organised the 2002 peace rally where Obama came out publicly
against the Iraq War.

Robin D.G. Kelly — Historian. Formerly a member of the Communist
Workers party. Now close to CPUSA and active in the Black Radical
Congress.

Fred Klonsky — former SDS member, son of leading CPUSA member Robert
Klonsky.
Susan Klonsky — Chicago based education writer, former SDS member.

Jay Mazur — A leader of the CPUSA/DSA infiltrated New York Working
Families Party.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6965

Joe Moore — 49th Ward Alderman, Chicago.
http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/...cnary-yet.html

Frances Fox Piven — DSA honorary chairman, formerly active in the New
Party and closely linked to ACORN.

Christine Riddiough — A former Chicago DSA activist and national
leader. Active in soliciting gay support for the Obama campaign.

Mark Rudd — A former leader of both SDS and the terrorist Weather
Underground.
Jay Schaffner — Local 802 American Federation of Musicians. Active in
CCDS, formerly a member of the Chicago Communist Party USA.

Andrew Stern
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1830
Andrew Stern — President, SEIU
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6535
Assistant to DSA member and AFL-CIO president John Sweeney.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2009
Stern was trained in the DSA controlled Midwest Academy in Chicago.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6725

Harry Targ — Leading CCDS member, Purdue University.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2243

Jonathan Tasini — National Writers Union. Endorsed by DSA in his
unsuccessful 2006 US Senate primary race against Hillary Clinton.
John Trinkl — Former writer for the Maoist oriented journal, The
Guardian.
Immanuel Wallerstein — Marxist professor, Yale University.

Cornel West — Honorary chairman of DSA, calls Obama “comrade”.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i....asp?indid=813

Mildred Williamson — CCDS leader. Formerly a leader of Chicago CPUSA.
Betty Willhoite — Chicago DSA member, Independent Voters of Illinois
activist.

Tim Wise — Author, Anti-Racism Educator. Has attended DSA and CCDS
conferences.
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1874

Why do people like this back Barack Obama?
What do they hope to gain from an Obama Presidency?
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i....asp?indid=977

Obama's ULTRA-Leftist Backers
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....rs-updated-2x/

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....ves-for-obama/

Hussein" Obama is an associate of a Chicago-based Marxist group.
His campaign workers displayed a flag featuring communist hero Che
Guevara. http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas...st-connections

In 2007, then-presidential candidate Obama named Robert Malley,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2310
the Middle East and North Africa Program Director for the
International Crisis Group,
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6218
as a foreign policy advisor to his (Obama's) campaign.

Robert Malley is son of Simon Malley, a key figure in the Egyptian
Communist Party.

Simon Malley was a beneficiary of Soviet funding; and a supporter of
the 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

Robert Malley has co-written a number of op-ed pieces with Hussein
Agha, a former adviser to Yasser Arafat.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2310

Who is Mike Klonsky?

Mike Klonsky is one of the founders of Communist Party (Marxist-
Leninist) (USA) and the Students for a Democratic Society a fervent
Obama supporter, friend and former member of the terrorist group the
Weatherman.
http://www.theminorityreportblog.com...riend_of_obama

(...) a notorious ally of Bill Ayers for many years, Mike Klonsky, is
an open member of the Obama campaign. Klonsky runs a blog on the
official Obama website here where he claims to be a "professor of
education"... and says he blogs for Obama on "education politics and
teaching for social justice."

Who is Mike Klonsky? Well, on one level, he might just appear to be a
protege of Bill Ayers in the education world. He received, as I detail
below, a $175,000 grant from the Ayers/Obama-led Annenberg Challenge
to run the Small Schools Workshop that he and Ayers started in Chicago
to push their school reform agenda.

But that is only half the story. Klonsky was one of the most
destructive hardline maoists in the SDS in the late 60's who emerged
from SDS to form a pro-Chinese sect called the October League that
later became the Beijing-recognized Communist Party (Marxist-
Leninist). As chairman of the party, Klonsky travelled to Beijing
itself in 1977 and, literally, toasted the Chinese stalinist
leadership who, in turn, "hailed the formation of the CP(ML) as
'reflecting the aspirations of the proletariat and working people,'
effectively recognizing the group as the all-but-official US Maoist
party." (Elbaum, Revolution in the Air, 228).

I know of no indications that Klonsky has ever expressed any regrets
about that activity. Perhaps like his SDS comrade, Ayers, he, too,
thinks he did not do enough back then. In my view they did more than
enough.

An excellent profile of that maoist milieu is available in a book
called Revolution in the Air by Max Elbaum,
http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Air...282892&sr=8-13
a first hand participant whose sympathy for the maoism of the period
does not get in the way of an excellent account of these idiot savants
of the left.

How is it possible that someone of Klonsky's ilk would now be playing
a visible role in the Obama campaign itself on such an important issue
as education policy - apparently with free reign to push his
authoritarian "social justice" agenda?

http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008...ghborhood.html
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All crap
all off topic

On Oct 31, 3:40*pm, wrote:
Obama’s Church: It’s Covert Ties to Black Extremism and Communism

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress....on-obamas-chur...
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Reds, Radicals, Terrorists and Traitors — Progressives For Obama

* * *fromhttp://TheRealBarackObama.wordpress.com

Barack Obama did not rise to prominence solely on his own merits

His career has been supported for many years by a socialist network,
based in Chicago, but now reaching into every state of the US.

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/...-and-legacy-of...

The network is an activist matrix led by former members of the ’60s
radical organisation Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6723

and supporters of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA),http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...obama-and.html

Communist Party USA (CPUSA)http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/...obama-be-commu...

and the Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism
(CCDS).http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/08/...marxist-lenini...

The network has links to hundreds of leftist organisations including
the

Black Radical Congress,http://www.blackradicalcongress.org

Progressive Democrats of America,http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=7123

United For Peace & Justice,http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6166

USAction,http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6729

ACORNhttp://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6968

and several major trade unions.http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6535

The network has been co-operating since at least the early 1980s.
Parts of it came together behind Jesse Jackson’s failed 1988 US
presidential bid

and again in the late ’90s New Partyhttp://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7434http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/08/obama-file-22-barack-obama-danny-...

which helped launch Barack Obama’s successful bid for the Illinois
State Senate.

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/01/...was-endorsed-b...

Now the network has come together to put Barack Obama in the White
House.

Their ambition doesn’t end there however. The network wants to build a
movement that will be able to pressure an Obama presidency into
legislating for massive social change. They want to relive the 1930s
and 1960s with a new “New Deal” and a new civil rights movement.

One prominent tip of the socialist iceberg is a comparitively new
organisation–Progressives for Obama (PFO).

According to the PFO website

"We agree that Barack Obama is our best option for President in 2008,
and that an independent grassroots effort can help strengthen his
campaign.

"It can also strengthen the mandate for his programs for stopping war,
promoting global justice and securing our rights, liberties, and
economic well-being. More important, independent organization at the
base is needed for compelling social change no matter who is in the
White House.

"We have understood, from the beginning, that Senator Obama is not a
consistent progressive, and often speaks to and from the center of our
country’s political spectrum–sometimes well, sometimes not. All the
more reason, we think, to organize a strong progressive pole,
independent of his campaign, to counter rightward drift and push him
to do better on issues that will win him more solid and wider support.

"We don’t attempt to define ‘progressive’ here. We’re open to all
trends, from the socialist left to moderate liberals, who want not
only to defeat McCain, but also build the grassroots organizations and
networks for wider and deeper change over the longer term.

Writing in The Nation, March 24, 2008,

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080407/hayden_et_al

PGO founder Tom Hayden, Bill Fletcher Jr., Danny Glover and Barbara
Ehrenreich explained

"During past progressive peaks in our political history — the late
Thirties, the early Sixties — social movements have provided the
relentless pressure and innovative ideas that allowed centrist leaders
to embrace visionary solutions. We find ourselves in just such a
situation today.

"We intend to join and engage with our brothers and sisters in the
vast rainbow of social movements to come together in support of
Obama’s unprecedented campaign and candidacy. Even though it is
candidate-centered, there is no doubt that the campaign is a social
movement, one greater than the candidate himself ever imagined.

The four founders of PFO a

TOM HAYDEN — Author of Ending the War in Iraq, a five-time Democratic
convention delegate, former state senator, and board member of the
Progressive Democrats of America. Hayden was also a founder in 1964 of
SDS. According to Discover the Networkshttp://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1334

During the Vietnam War, Hayden traveled many times to North Vietnam,
Czechoslovakia, and Paris to strategize with Communist North
Vietnamese and Viet Cong leaders on how to defeat America’s anti-
Communist efforts. He came back from Hanoi proclaiming he had seen
“rice roots democracy at work.” According to people who were present
at the time…Hayden offered advice on conducting psychological warfare
against the U.S.

BILL FLETCHER — Originator of the call for founding “Progressives for
Obama”, is the executive editor of Black Commentator, and founder of
the Center for Labor Renewal.

Fletcher is a former Maoist and is currently a leader of Democratic
Socialists of America (DSA). In 1998 he was also a founding member of
the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) / CCDS / DSA dominated Black Radical
Congress.http://www.blackradicalcongress.org/index.html

BARBARA EHRENREICH — With Hayden, Ehrenreich is a member of The
Nation’s editorial board. She is an honorary chairman of DSA and was
formerly active in the New American Movement-led largely by former SDS
and CPUSA activists. According to Discover the Networkshttp://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1058

When the Communist Manifesto was re-released on its 150th anniversary
in 1998, Ehrenreich celebrated the event. She noted that in producing
the Manifesto as a commercial product, capitalists were — as Lenin had
once predicted — providing the rope that eventually would hang them.

DANNY GLOVER — An actor, activist, and chairman of the board of
TransAfrica — where he works with two former Communist Party front
activists Harry Belafonte and Johnetta Cole.http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i....asp?indid=837
.
Glover is also close to former Berkely mayor Gus Newport, once linked
to CPUSA and now active in both DSA and CCDS. He has also been
involved with the Black Radical Congress. Glover has close ties to
Cuba and according to Discover the Network

"On several occasions, Glover has visited Venezuela and made guest
appearances on President Hugo Chavez’s television and radio talk show,
Hello, President. Glover is a Board member of Venezuela’s “TeleSUR”
news network, which Chavez created in 2005.http://www.discoverthenetworks..org/...asp?indid=1119

The list of endorsers on the Progressives for Obama website further
illustrates the socialist nature of the organisation

They include:

Rosalyn Baxandall — Marxist.

Paul Buhle — A former member of SDS, one time editor of the original
SDS journal Radical America. Currently a DSA leader.http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2020

Malcolm Burnstein — Progressive Caucus, California Democratic Party.
Formerly active in the communist front National Lawyers Guild.
Formerly a partner in the CPUSA linked San Francisco Bay Area law firm
of Truehaft, Walker and Burnstein, that once employed a young
Hillary Rodham (Clinton)http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...e.asp?indid=18

Duane Campbell — Sacramento Progressive Alliance, Anti-Racism and
Latino Commission of DSA.http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/02/...-08-all-way-wi...

Jim Campbell — CCDS National Co-chair

Steve Cobble — Progressive Democrats of America, formerly with the New
Party and affiliated with the ultra radical, Cuban linked, Institute
for Policy Studies.http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6991

Barry Cohen — NJ Institute of Technology, CCDS member, formerly with
Communist Partry USA.

Carl Davidson — PFO webmaster. Former SDS, later involved with Maoist
groups and in the ’90s with Barack Obama in the New Party. On the
national council of CCDS.http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...-obama-courted...

Peter Dreier –Occidental College, DSA member.

Thorne Dreyer — former SDS member
Mickey Flacks — former SDS member.
Richard Flacks — Husband of Mickey, former SDS member. Active in Santa
Barbara DSA.

Jane Fonda (”Hanoi Jane”) — former wife of Tom Hayden. [see above]http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1326

Aviva Futorian — Associated with Obama in the DSA infiltrated
Independent Voters of Illinois.
Christine George — Researcher and Unversity Teacher. Associated with
Chicago DSA.

Todd Gitlin — Columbia University. Former SDS leader.http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2210

Jorge Gonzalez — Cuba Journal.
Thomas Good — Communist turned anarchist.
David Hamilton — ex SDS

Harold Jacobs — historian of the SDS terrorist offshot, the Weather
Underground.http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=7320

Michael James — Heartland Cafe, 49th Ward Democrats Chicago. Former
SDS member....

read more »

Barack Obama says that he will meet with Cuban
Leader Raul Castro without pre-conditions and
looks forward to 'changing' the relationship
between the USA and Cuba.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05...-to-go-hungry/

the times they are a 'changing' ~ RHF

Rubbish !

On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 06:00:38 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ama_vs_mccain/

check out this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0JhEtzch4Y

relax . .

"We have also had quite a hand in skewing many many polls, some we
couldn’t control as much as we would have liked. But many we have
spoiled over. Just enough to make real clear politics look scarey to a
mccain supporter. Its worked, alough the goal was to appear 13-15
points ahead.

see, the results have been working. People tend to support a winner,
go with the flow, become “sheeple”

The polls are roughly 3-5 points in favor of Barack. Thats due to our
inflation of the polls and pulling in the sheeple."
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/1...-to-this-site/




Regards


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