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Dave[_18_] November 19th 08 01:41 PM

A Brave New America
 
David Hartung wrote:
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution,
greed is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and
you're scared of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum

save america, kill a neocon today


If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is
completely without merit.

Bush has destroyed nothing.


Nothing you love. But some of us are fond of the Constitution and the
moral high ground.

Dave[_18_] November 19th 08 01:44 PM

A Brave New America
 
David Hartung wrote:



Yes, I realize that I am in a small minority. I am one of those who
believes that government governs best, when it governs least.


In other words, let the companies do whatever they want.

Dave[_18_] November 19th 08 01:45 PM

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMericaŠ Bring PaxObamaŠ to the World
 
RHF wrote:
On Nov 18, 7:01 am, Dave wrote:
CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
Don't bother arguing with Killgod She's a ranter. She hates God and thinks
she's more powerful than He is. You're right, she is a fine example of the
Left.
Charles the Curmudeon


- God? God who?

Dave - Obama? Obama Who?

Obama is real. You can see him and touch him.

God is a fictional entity lacking both form and substance.

Dave[_18_] November 19th 08 01:47 PM

A Brave New America
 
Bob Campbell wrote:
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" wrote in message
m...

now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution,
greed is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and
you're scared of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi


Thread over. Godwin's law invoked.


Not to mention insulting Nazis...

Dave[_18_] November 19th 08 01:51 PM

(OT) : NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion has aReplacement 'Neocon'
 
RHF wrote:


Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.

Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.

Neocons tend to align with the Zionists, actually. You should really
learn before shooting off your mouth.

Dave[_18_] November 19th 08 01:52 PM

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMericaŠ Bring PaxObamaŠ to the World
 
RHF wrote:
On Nov 18, 2:14 pm, wrote:
In alt.religion.christian RHF wrote:


- - Dave - Obama? Obama Who?

- The guy your fellow Americans voted
- in for their next president.

"Blessed Be The Barack of Obama and
All Praise and Honor Be His Name"Š


The President gets no special praise nor honor. He is just a man, like
any of us.

Dave[_18_] November 19th 08 01:53 PM

A Brave New America
 
wrote:

Apparently you know nothing about what the Democrats were up to during
WW2 and under Fuhrer Kennedy.
LOL! Amazing how well the Neo-Communist have erased their own
history. I suggest you start with the rise of Mao Tse Dung.

And what were the Bushes and the Walkers doing during WWII? Thyssen?
Krupps?

Dave[_18_] November 19th 08 02:00 PM

more off topic garbage posted by rhf aka retired halfassed fool
 
wrote:
Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup
which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to
shortwave radio information.

And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off
topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter
obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to
do so.

Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting
your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups.

We had a few sun spots last week. I talked to a blind guy in
Massachusetts on psk31 yesterday. 15 Watts each way. OTH radar sucks.

Now, back to Armageddon.

beacon November 19th 08 02:51 PM

(OT) : NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion has a Replacement 'Neocon'
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
RHF wrote:


Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.

Neocons tend to align with the Zionists, actually. You should really
learn before shooting off your mouth.

Yes they do because "zionism" is a war-mongering movement. New bad
political word will be "bolshevik" because of the crowd that created Obama.
The creation of OBama: chicagojewishnews.com/story.htm?sid=1&id=252218

From Forward-50-2008:
"...
Penny Pritzker
As a member of one of Chicago's wealthiest families, Penny Pritzker comes
from a line known for its business acumen. But perhaps nobody in the family
has pulled off a financial feat that tops the vaunted fund-raising machine
she helped build for Barack Obama as his national finance chair. Though
Obama's troubles in winning over Jewish voters were a key story line in his
presidential race, Jewish support helped him make the national scene.
Pritzker is one of a cadre of prominent Chicago Jews - including the Crown
family, Abner Mikva and Lee Rosenberg - who knew Obama as a state senator
and helped form a key support for his 2004 Senate run. When Obama decided to
make his long-shot presidential bid, he tapped Pritzker to help him raise
the cash he needed. Pritzker, in turn, helped forge the most successful
fund-raising campaign in American political history, merging a flood of
small Internet donations with traditional Democratic big money. With the
campaign over, Pritzker, 49, may return to helping run her family's Hyatt
hotel chain. Or maybe not. Her name is being floated in Washington circles
as a potential secretary of commerce. ...".



beacon November 19th 08 02:56 PM

A Brave New America
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
David Hartung wrote:
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is
completely without merit.

Bush has destroyed nothing.


Nothing you love. But some of us are fond of the Constitution and the
moral high ground.

Well that isn't quite true, Bush and his gang of thugs has pretty much
bankrupted America and destroyed the military. If you so love the
Constitution and the moral high ground how do you feel about the creation of
Obama:
The creation of OBama: chicagojewishnews.com/story.htm?sid=1&id=252218

From Forward-50-2008:
"...
Penny Pritzker
As a member of one of Chicago's wealthiest families, Penny Pritzker comes
from a line known for its business acumen. But perhaps nobody in the family
has pulled off a financial feat that tops the vaunted fund-raising machine
she helped build for Barack Obama as his national finance chair. Though
Obama's troubles in winning over Jewish voters were a key story line in his
presidential race, Jewish support helped him make the national scene.
Pritzker is one of a cadre of prominent Chicago Jews - including the Crown
family, Abner Mikva and Lee Rosenberg - who knew Obama as a state senator
and helped form a key support for his 2004 Senate run. When Obama decided to
make his long-shot presidential bid, he tapped Pritzker to help him raise
the cash he needed. Pritzker, in turn, helped forge the most successful
fund-raising campaign in American political history, merging a flood of
small Internet donations with traditional Democratic big money. With the
campaign over, Pritzker, 49, may return to helping run her family's Hyatt
hotel chain. Or maybe not. Her name is being floated in Washington circles
as a potential secretary of commerce. ...".



[email protected] November 19th 08 06:15 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 18, 11:36*pm, Gary DeWaay
wrote:

Where is Ron Paul when we *really* need him?


At a KKK rally?


Another Liberal Fascist Neo-Communist "Progressive" propaganda lie.

[email protected] November 19th 08 06:28 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 18, 11:35*pm, Gary DeWaay
wrote:
In article ,
David Hartung says...



Yes, I realize that I am in a small minority. I am one of those who
believes that government governs best, when it governs least.


And yet David is no-doubt anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage,
pro-big military, pro-Bush Doctrine, pro-death penalty, pro-
tough on crime, pro-wiretapping, on and on and on....


Just spit it out - an unpaid Useful Idiot.

[email protected] November 19th 08 06:33 PM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way TheyDefine Nazi
 
On Nov 19, 7:44*am, Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 10:47 pm, wrote:





On Nov 18, 9:13 pm, Mike wrote:


Real Nazis represent one of the most evil forces in history. You are
right that anyone that anyone that suggests that a Neocon is the same
as a Nazi is clearly exaggerating. Here's the way it really is:


LMFAO!!!! - I STRONGLYsuggest you Liberal Facsists read "Your Own"
history before you stick your foot in your mouth so far down it pops
out of your fat ass:


" Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From
Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning"


http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis...i-Politics/dp/...


Heil Hitler (get used to it)

As I originally wrote: We must stand up against people (like you!)

that re-write history for their own purposes. Mussolini was opposed by
US liberals during the '30s, while he was supported by US
conservatives. That's a historical fact that you can't escape, *"donki
dix"!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You obviously havn't read the heavilly researched and very factual
book.

"And so they will remain ignorant and a laughing stock."

[email protected] November 19th 08 06:34 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 19, 8:41*am, Dave wrote:

Nothing you love. *But some of us are fond of the Constitution and the
moral high ground.


LIAR!!!!

[email protected] November 19th 08 06:35 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 19, 8:44*am, Dave wrote:
David Hartung wrote:

Yes, I realize that I am in a small minority. I am one of those who
believes that government governs best, when it governs least.


In other words, let the companies do whatever they want.


Far better than what a welfare leach like you want.

[email protected] November 19th 08 06:37 PM

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMericaŠ Bring PaxObamaŠ to the World
 
On Nov 19, 8:45*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Nov 18, 7:01 am, Dave wrote:
CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
Don't bother arguing with Killgod *She's a ranter. *She hates God and thinks
she's more powerful than He is. *You're right, she is a fine example of the
Left.
Charles the Curmudeon


- God? *God who?


Dave - Obama? Obama Who?


Obama is real. *You can see him and touch him.


You mean ObaMao? He touched Mao Tse Tung's wax figure once.


[email protected] November 19th 08 06:40 PM

(OT) : NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion has aReplacement 'Neocon'
 
On Nov 19, 8:51*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.


Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.


Neocons tend to align with the Zionists, actually. *You should really
learn before shooting off your mouth.


Liberal Fascist Neo-Commies tend to align with Islam-0-fascists.
Really!

Heil Hitler!

[email protected] November 19th 08 06:43 PM

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMericaŠ Bring PaxObamaŠ to the World
 
On Nov 19, 8:52*am, Dave wrote:

The President gets no special praise nor honor. *He is just a man, like
any of us.


Except nobody voted for you. Really!

Heil Hitler!

[email protected] November 19th 08 06:45 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 19, 8:53*am, Dave wrote:
wrote:
Apparently you know nothing about what the Democrats were up to during
WW2 and under Fuhrer Kennedy.
LOL! *Amazing how well the Neo-Communist have erased their own
history. *I suggest you start with the rise of Mao Tse Dung.


And what were the Bushes and the Walkers doing during WWII? *Thyssen?
Krupps?


What were YOU and YOUR relatives doing in Moscow, Beijing and Berlin?

[email protected] November 19th 08 06:47 PM

(OT) : NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion has aReplacement 'Neocon'
 
On Nov 19, 9:51*am, "beacon" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

... RHF wrote:

Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.

Neocons tend to align with the Zionists, actually. *You should really
learn before shooting off your mouth.


Yes they do because "zionism" is a war-mongering movement. *New bad
political word will be "bolshevik" because of the crowd that created Obama.


Lies lies and yet more Liberal Fascist Neo-Commie lies.

[email protected] November 19th 08 07:22 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 18, 9:57*am, David Hartung wrote:

If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is
completely without merit.


Since when did Liberal Fascist Neo-Commie propaganda have any merit?

msg November 19th 08 08:13 PM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way TheyDefine Nazi
 
Mike wrote:

snip
As I originally wrote: We must stand up against people (like you!)
that re-write history for their own purposes. Mussolini was opposed by
US liberals during the '30s, while he was supported by US
conservatives. That's a historical fact that you can't escape, "donki
dix"!


Since you mention Mussolini, this is as good a place as any to mention my
shock and bewilderment at the McCain campaign's use early in the general
election period after the conventions, of a pose of the candidate, in
television spots, that looked to me exactly like the famous photos of
Il Duce. Didn't anyone in that campaign have a clue?

BTW, why is this thread cost posted so promiscuously (reading it in R.R.S)

Michael


ZNUYBV November 19th 08 08:36 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 19, 5:41 am, Dave wrote:
David Hartung wrote:
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution,
greed is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and
you're scared of the demcorats?


you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum


save america, kill a neocon today


If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is
completely without merit.


Bush has destroyed nothing.


Nothing you love. But some of us are fond of the Constitution and the
moral high ground.


The Constitution says what five judges say it says. When those five
judges say what you want to hear; you love it. When they don't you
hate it.

Cato November 20th 08 06:10 AM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way TheyDefine Nazi
 
On Nov 18, 10:13*pm, Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 5:31 pm, RHF wrote:







NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion.


NAZI = SOCIALIST = MARXIST = COMMUNIST = BAD PEOPLE


NAZI = FASCIST = SKINHEAD = NEOCON = BAD PEOPLE


Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.


Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.


just say no to 'nazi' type name calling ~ RHF
.


Roy,

Real Nazis represent one of the most evil forces in history. You are
right that anyone that anyone that suggests that a Neocon is the same
as a Nazi is clearly exaggerating. Here's the way it really is:

Neocons embrace conservatism. Nazis also embraced conservatism, but in
a very extreme form of statist nationalism. Think neocon on steroids.
While most neocons are not racists, many of their positions on
national patriotism, national security, and the importance of security
over individual freedoms, are definitely pointed in the same fascist
direction that the Nazis started with.

Liberals are not the same as Marxists or Socialists. But, just as the
neocons are moving in the same direction as Nazis, the liberals are
more like Marxist or Commies than Nazis. A Marxist is like a liberal
on nasty steroids. Nazis are the opposite of Marxists or Socialists.
One of Hitler's first steps toward World War was to burn down the
Reichstag and blame it on the Commies and Socialists. The Nazi
Fascists fought against the Soviet Marxists in WW2. It is estimated
that 25 million Marxists died fighting the invading Fascist Nazis.
Anyone that calls a Commie Marxist a Nazi or a Fascist is attempting
to re-write history.

So, neocons are not fascists and liberal are not Marxists. Both
extremes are undesirable. Unless real American stand up to these
foolish exaggerations, the people that distort history for their own
political ends will prevent the people of this nation from uniting and
really dealing with our societal problems.

Obama is not a Marxist and I don't think most neocons (with the
possible exception of Dick "Shotgun" Cheney) are Nazis. Let's stop
this foolishness and realize that such hyperbole is a clear indication
of a crackpot.

I'm willing to bet that I'm the only one in this thread that has
actual college degrees in Government and Public Affairs.

Mike- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well. the Nazis fighting the Communists isn't evidence of them being
a great deal different. When Ribbentrop went to Moscow to deal with
Molotov, and agree to both invade Poland with their forces and split
it between them, he returned to Berlin and reported, "We can deal with
these guys, they are just like us". They also aggreed to split up
Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, and Romania into Nazi and
Soviet spheres of influence for take over by the two dictatorships.
The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (also known as the Hitler - Stalin Pact
and other titles) remained in effect until Nazi Germany invaded the
Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 in Operation Barbarossa.

The only thing stopping the Nazi Germany from working together with
the Soviet Union in the end was Hitler's megalomania. Otherwise, WW
II could have turned out very differently. Perhaps in a way none of us
would like to imagine. Stalin was in a state of shock that Hitler
broke their pact, and attacked. It took him some days to recover his
composure and start to act.
Even Communist countries can fight against each other. It's the
"Party" of one country against the "Party" in the other,.
To the little man in the street, one dictatorship is little
different from the other.

Naziism/Fascism vs. Communism. They are both "Total
Government" .... Totalitarianism. Kissing cousins.
Both of them step on the freedom of the citizens. Destructive of
Liberty.

Brenda Ann November 20th 08 07:28 AM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way They Define Nazi
 

"Cato" wrote in message
...

Naziism/Fascism vs. Communism. They are both "Total
Government" .... Totalitarianism. Kissing cousins.
Both of them step on the freedom of the citizens. Destructive of
Liberty.

Said it before, will say it again. Any, ANY form of government can be
abused. Fascism may well appear to the man on the street to be no different
from Communism, but they are politcally diametrically opposite. The end
result to the citizen may be the same, but the players have different sets
of 'morals'. Fascism is, in part, Capitalism taken to it's extreme. Our
own Democratic Republic (USA, but isn't it funny how so many Communist
countries use those words in their proper names?) can be abused to the point
where it would, to practical intents and purposes, be no different than
either a Communist or Fascist dictatorship. Already, corporations have far
too much power and control over our government. I'm all for "Joe the
Plumber" blue collar types being able to earn whatever living they choose to
work for. I have a BIG problem with corporations taking advantage of the
hard work of others to garner obscene profits (Exxon-Mobil, for one).




Cato November 20th 08 09:20 AM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way TheyDefine Nazi
 
On Nov 20, 2:28*am, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"Cato" wrote in message

...

* * Naziism/Fascism *vs. Communism. * * They are both "Total
Government" .... *Totalitarianism. * Kissing cousins.
*Both of them step on the freedom of the citizens. Destructive of
Liberty.

Said it before, will say it again. *Any, ANY form of government can be
abused. Fascism may well appear to the man on the street to be no different
from Communism, but they are politcally diametrically opposite. The end
result to the citizen may be the same, but the players have different sets
of 'morals'. *Fascism is, in part, Capitalism taken to it's extreme. *Our
own Democratic Republic (USA, but isn't it funny how so many Communist
countries use those words in their proper names?) can be abused to the point
where it would, to practical intents and purposes, be no different than
either a Communist or Fascist dictatorship. Already, corporations have far
too much power and control over our government. *I'm all for "Joe the
Plumber" blue collar types being able to earn whatever living they choose to
work for. *I have a BIG problem with corporations taking advantage of the
hard work of others to garner obscene profits (Exxon-Mobil, for one).


You are correct on some accounts, but notice in Nazi Germany with
the big industries, although the original owners where still owners on
paper, and retained their titles, they now had to produce what they
were told to produce, they were told how much to produce, how much
they would get paid, and how much to pay the workers. You were
expected to meet government imposed quotas, just as in Communist
countries.
In Nazi Germany, you owned your company on paper, but you and your
company and your workers were totally controlled by the government.

If instead, you have the companys controlling the government, as
you say you are getting in the U.S., you have it turned around
backwards.

That was not the case in either Nazi Germany, or Communist Soviet
Union. There, the Government, (The Party) headed up by their Great
Leaders, had control.

Not much different then how business was run in the Soviet Union.
There, you had your factory committees and party comrades running the
factory. Totally controlled by the government again.
Again, totally controlled by the government. Everyone's lives
under total regulation.
To regular people, dictatorship is dictatorship. With their "Re-
education" Camps and Gulags and Concentration Camps.
What does it matter if it is black fascism, red communism, or
green or purple "ism" ? ?
No diff to me. All evil, and destructive to Liberty.

Cato November 20th 08 09:28 AM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way TheyDefine Nazi
 

Oh, yes, it's funny how many communist countries call themselves
"Democratic" and a "Republic". Such as "The People's Democratic
Republic of Yemen, or Lao People's Democratic Republic, or the
People's Republic of China, or the Democratic People's Republic of
Korea ruled by "Dear Leader" Kim Jong-Il
LOL Such titles would never win them awards for honesty.

dxAce November 20th 08 11:17 AM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way They DefineNazi
 


Brenda Ann wrote:

"Cato" wrote in message
...

Naziism/Fascism vs. Communism. They are both "Total
Government" .... Totalitarianism. Kissing cousins.
Both of them step on the freedom of the citizens. Destructive of
Liberty.

Said it before, will say it again. Any, ANY form of government can be
abused. Fascism may well appear to the man on the street to be no different
from Communism, but they are politcally diametrically opposite. The end
result to the citizen may be the same, but the players have different sets
of 'morals'. Fascism is, in part, Capitalism taken to it's extreme. Our
own Democratic Republic (USA, but isn't it funny how so many Communist
countries use those words in their proper names?) can be abused to the point
where it would, to practical intents and purposes, be no different than
either a Communist or Fascist dictatorship. Already, corporations have far
too much power and control over our government. I'm all for "Joe the
Plumber" blue collar types being able to earn whatever living they choose to
work for. I have a BIG problem with corporations taking advantage of the
hard work of others to garner obscene profits (Exxon-Mobil, for one).


Obscene profit? You need to check into what their profit margins really are.
Yes, dollar wise, it might seem to be a lot, but you're disregarding the volume
of product sold. You're looking at dollar return rather the percentage earned on
each dollar spent.

It's my understanding that there is a much higher profit margin on let's say,
cosmetics, computer software and even bottled water.

Check MicroSoft, where I've heard their margin is over 20% vs 8-10% for an oil
company and say 14% or more for cosmetics.





RHF November 20th 08 11:37 PM

(OT) : NAZI - Hate Speech is HATE SPEECH : NEOCON - Again Hate Speechis HATE SPEECH
 
On Nov 18, 7:13*pm, Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 5:31 pm, RHF wrote:





NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion.


NAZI = SOCIALIST = MARXIST = COMMUNIST = BAD PEOPLE


NAZI = FASCIST = SKINHEAD = NEOCON = BAD PEOPLE


Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.


Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.


just say no to 'nazi' type name calling ~ RHF
.


Roy,

Real Nazis represent one of the most evil forces in history. You are
right that anyone that anyone that suggests that a Neocon is the same
as a Nazi is clearly exaggerating. Here's the way it really is:

Neocons embrace conservatism. Nazis also embraced conservatism, but in
a very extreme form of statist nationalism. Think neocon on steroids.
While most neocons are not racists, many of their positions on
national patriotism, national security, and the importance of security
over individual freedoms, are definitely pointed in the same fascist
direction that the Nazis started with.

Liberals are not the same as Marxists or Socialists. But, just as the
neocons are moving in the same direction as Nazis, the liberals are
more like Marxist or Commies than Nazis. A Marxist is like a liberal
on nasty steroids. Nazis are the opposite of Marxists or Socialists.
One of Hitler's first steps toward World War was to burn down the
Reichstag and blame it on the Commies and Socialists. The Nazi
Fascists fought against the Soviet Marxists in WW2. It is estimated
that 25 million Marxists died fighting the invading Fascist Nazis.
Anyone that calls a Commie Marxist a Nazi or a Fascist is attempting
to re-write history.

So, neocons are not fascists and liberal are not Marxists. Both
extremes are undesirable. Unless real American stand up to these
foolish exaggerations, the people that distort history for their own
political ends will prevent the people of this nation from uniting and
really dealing with our societal problems.

Obama is not a Marxist and I don't think most neocons (with the
possible exception of Dick "Shotgun" Cheney) are Nazis. Let's stop
this foolishness and realize that such hyperbole is a clear indication
of a crackpot.

I'm willing to bet that I'm the only one in this thread that has
actual college degrees in Government and Public Affairs.

Mike


Mike - You are Replying to an Off-Topic Post
and Your Posting itself id OFF-TOPIC :

1 - NAZI - Hate Speech is HATE SPEECH

Someone who says the word NAZI with Venom
in their Mouth and Murderous Hate in their
Heart for another is is as bad or badder
then the persons that they may be attacking
with their Hate Speech.

2 - NEOCON - Again Hate Speech is HATE SPEECH

Again someone who says the word NEOCON with
Venom in their Mouth and Murderous Hate in
their Heart for another is is as bad or badder
then the persons that they may be attacking
with their Hate Speech.

the message is simple : don't promote hate in
your speech and use words that are hateful in
and of themselves : true tolerance and
understanding starts with you; and is reflected
in your 'choice' of words : 'choose' your words
wisely - liberally speaking that is ~ RHF

RHF November 20th 08 11:45 PM

(OT) : NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion has aReplacement 'Neocon'
 
On Nov 19, 5:51*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.


- - Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
- - subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
- - has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.

- Neocons tend to align with the Zionists, actually.
-*You should really learn before shooting off your mouth.

Dave,

Which part of 'anti' don't you understand ?

omif ~ RHF

[email protected] November 21st 08 03:12 AM

more garbage from rhf aka Retired Halfassed Fool
 

..go away grampa everyone hates you and wishes you would die


Dave[_18_] November 21st 08 02:10 PM

(OT) : NAZI - Hate Speech is HATE SPEECH : NEOCON - Again HateSpeech is HATE SPEECH
 
RHF wrote:

with their Hate Speech.

2 - NEOCON - Again Hate Speech is HATE SPEECH

Again someone who says the word NEOCON with
Venom in their Mouth and Murderous Hate in
their Heart for another is is as bad or badder
then the persons that they may be attacking
with their Hate Speech.


Anybody who hates is diseased. But the word Neocon is an accurate term
for neoliberal followers of Strauss and Kristol. They are imperialist
warmongers, which is quite a mouthful; "neocon" works better.

Dave[_18_] November 21st 08 02:11 PM

(OT) : NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion has aReplacement 'Neocon'
 
RHF wrote:
On Nov 19, 5:51 am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:

Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.

- - Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
- - subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
- - has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.

- Neocons tend to align with the Zionists, actually.
- You should really learn before shooting off your mouth.

Dave,

Which part of 'anti' don't you understand ?

omif ~ RHF
.

You are a ****ing m-o-r-o-n

No Name November 21st 08 10:51 PM

A Brave New America
 
David Hartung writes:

David SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution,
greed is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy,
and you're scared of the demcorats?
you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum
save america, kill a neocon today


David If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is
David completely without merit.

David Bush has destroyed nothing.

He has come very close to destroying Iraq.
By complete incompetence.

He has destroyed our prestige in the world.

He is really one of the worst presidents of
all time.


--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)

RHF November 21st 08 11:07 PM

(OT) : NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion has aReplacement 'Neocon'
 
On Nov 21, 6:11*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Nov 19, 5:51 am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:


Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.

- - Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
- - subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
- - has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.


- Neocons tend to align with the Zionists, actually.
- You should really learn before shooting off your mouth.


- - Dave,
- - Which part of 'anti' don't you understand ?
- - omif ~ RHF

- You are a ****ing m-o-r-o-n

Dave - moronically speaking... once again
Which part of 'anti' don't you understand ?

§tarkillerŠ November 21st 08 11:14 PM

A Brave New America
 
On 21 Nov 2008 17:51:06 -0500, wrote:

David Hartung writes:


David SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution,
greed is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy,
and you're scared of the demcorats?
you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum
save america, kill a neocon today


David If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is
David completely without merit.

David Bush has destroyed nothing.

He has come very close to destroying Iraq.
By complete incompetence.


Yeah yeah sure sure, guess that's why so many less people are dying in
Iraq today than did under your hero Saddam yes?
Guess that's also why the Iraq oil business is booming raking in
billions to Iraq.
Guess that's also why we see so few reports of fighting and deaths
these days compares to just a couple of years ago as well yes?

He has destroyed our prestige in the world.


No, people like Soros, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and few choice
others traveling all over the world badmouthing the US to foreign
nations did a lot of that, along with liberals like yoursel that
started screaming how horrible the US was even before Bush took office

He is really one of the worst presidents of
all time.


Another youngster not old enough to have experienced the Carter
administration no doubt.
Not to worry though. It is likely you may see another Carteresque
presidency shortly.









Regards


§tarkillerŠ








'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'

"You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."

RHF November 21st 08 11:29 PM

(OT) : NAZI - Hate Speech is HATE SPEECH : NEOCON - Again HateSpeech is HATE SPEECH
 
On Nov 21, 6:10*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
with their Hate Speech.


2 - NEOCON - Again Hate Speech is HATE SPEECH


Again someone who says the word NEOCON with
Venom in their Mouth and Murderous Hate in
their Heart for another is is as bad or badder
then the persons that they may be attacking
with their Hate Speech.


- Anybody who hates is diseased.
-*But the word Neocon is an accurate term for
- neoliberal followers of Strauss and Kristol.
-*They are imperialist warmongers, which is
- quite a mouthful; *"neocon" works better.

Dave,

Your venom when you write {say} the word "WarMonger"
reeks with Hate : Therefore by your own definition
your are 'diseased'. HEAL THY SELF

just say no to hate ~ RHF

RHF November 21st 08 11:34 PM

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMericaŠ Bring PaxObamaŠ to the World
 
On Nov 20, 7:12*pm, wrote:

- .go away grampa everyone hates you and wishes you would die

Iva Biggin November 22nd 08 12:47 PM

A Brave New America
 
§tarkillerŠ wrote:
On 21 Nov 2008 17:51:06 -0500, wrote:

David Hartung writes:


David SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the

constitution, greed is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed
the u.s. economy, and you're scared of the demcorats?
you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum
save america, kill a neocon today


David If you will look around you, you will realize that your
claim is David completely without merit.

David Bush has destroyed nothing.

He has come very close to destroying Iraq.
By complete incompetence.


Yeah yeah sure sure, guess that's why so many less people are dying in
Iraq today than did under your hero Saddam yes?
Guess that's also why the Iraq oil business is booming raking in
billions to Iraq.
Guess that's also why we see so few reports of fighting and deaths
these days compares to just a couple of years ago as well yes?

He has destroyed our prestige in the world.


No, people like Soros, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and few choice
others traveling all over the world badmouthing the US to foreign
nations did a lot of that, along with liberals like yoursel that
started screaming how horrible the US was even before Bush took office

He is really one of the worst presidents of
all time.


Another youngster not old enough to have experienced the Carter
administration no doubt.
Not to worry though. It is likely you may see another Carteresque
presidency shortly.









Regards


§tarkillerŠ








'A government big enough to give you everything you want, is
big enough to take away everything you have.'

"You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."


The fact is that your admired GW is arguably the Worst President
in American History, StarZero. It's a common discussion among
scholars of American politics.

And being against the illegal George W. Bush Iraq War does not
imply that Saddam Hussain was their "hero". And remember that
under the earlier Bush administration, Rumsfeld was one of the
people shaking Saddam's hand, as he was supplying U.S. weapons,
including chemical ones, to fight Iran.

Your stupidity extends to the notion that anyone not a slobbering
right wing idiot such as yourself must be a left wing extremist.
It simply isn't so. People with common sense have realized all along
just what a sad excuse GW has been as 'president'..



David Hartung November 22nd 08 01:00 PM

A Brave New America
 
Iva Biggin wrote:

The fact is that your admired GW is arguably the Worst President
in American History, StarZero. It's a common discussion among
scholars of American politics.


Who would these "scholars" be?

And being against the illegal George W. Bush Iraq War does not
imply that Saddam Hussain was their "hero". And remember that
under the earlier Bush administration, Rumsfeld was one of the
people shaking Saddam's hand, as he was supplying U.S. weapons,
including chemical ones, to fight Iran.

Your stupidity extends to the notion that anyone not a slobbering
right wing idiot such as yourself must be a left wing extremist.
It simply isn't so. People with common sense have realized all along
just what a sad excuse GW has been as 'president'..


The simple fact is that Bush has been at least as good as both of his
immediate predecessors.


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