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[email protected] November 18th 08 01:35 PM

A Brave New America
 
The Democrats seem to have found the perfect strategy to replace free
markets with government control. Their game plan is now clear: to move
incrementally but inexorably from capitalism (free markets) to
socialism (government control of economic activity). [at the expense
of your freedom]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...5-C37F35F0449D

http://mises.org/books/TRTS/
http://www.ideachannel.tv/
http://mises.org/etexts/Mises/anticap.asp

SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim November 18th 08 01:49 PM

A Brave New America
 

now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed is
rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're scared
of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum

save america, kill a neocon today



Doorman November 18th 08 02:03 PM

A Brave New America
 

"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" wrote in message
m...

now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed
is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're
scared of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum

save america, kill a neocon today



You're a lemming.

Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".

Greed....you have total control of that using the marketplace. Example 1:
Congress tries to regulate pornography but it's still the most lucrative
business on the internet. If the people didn't want it, they wouldn't buy
it...and it would dry up and go away. If you don't like the companies that
pay CEO's big salaries, don't buy their products.

The president can't spend a dime, can't create laws, or instruct markets
what to do. Paulson is following laws written by congress. Congress knew
of the Fanny Mae mess more than 2 years ago and could've prevented it. They
decided to destroy you to get a democrat in office.

NAZI??? Obama wants a "Civilian National Security Force"....last known
example of that was under Hitler.

The suggestion to murder for political reasons is the exact reason liberals
should never be in control.

You're a fine example of the hatred and disgust of the left.



CharlesTheCurmudgeon November 18th 08 02:06 PM

A Brave New America
 

"Doorman" wrote in message
. ..

"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" wrote in message
m...

now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed
is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're
scared of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum

save america, kill a neocon today



You're a lemming.

Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".

Greed....you have total control of that using the marketplace. Example 1:
Congress tries to regulate pornography but it's still the most lucrative
business on the internet. If the people didn't want it, they wouldn't buy
it...and it would dry up and go away. If you don't like the companies
that pay CEO's big salaries, don't buy their products.

The president can't spend a dime, can't create laws, or instruct markets
what to do. Paulson is following laws written by congress. Congress knew
of the Fanny Mae mess more than 2 years ago and could've prevented it.
They decided to destroy you to get a democrat in office.

NAZI??? Obama wants a "Civilian National Security Force"....last known
example of that was under Hitler.

The suggestion to murder for political reasons is the exact reason
liberals should never be in control.

You're a fine example of the hatred and disgust of the left.


Don't bother arguing with Killgod She's a ranter. She hates God and thinks
she's more powerful than He is. You're right, she is a fine example of the
Left.

Charles the Curmudeon



David Hartung November 18th 08 02:57 PM

A Brave New America
 
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed is
rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're scared
of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum

save america, kill a neocon today


If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is
completely without merit.

Bush has destroyed nothing.

Dave[_18_] November 18th 08 03:01 PM

A Brave New America
 
CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:

Don't bother arguing with Killgod She's a ranter. She hates God and thinks
she's more powerful than He is. You're right, she is a fine example of the
Left.

Charles the Curmudeon



God? God who?

Mike[_2_] November 18th 08 03:50 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 18, 9:03*am, "Doorman" wrote:

You're a lemming.


And you are a neocon.


Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".


1. Protection against warrantless wiretaps
2. Habeas corpus
3. Trial by jury
4. Right to know what actions my gov't deems "necessary" to protect my
freedom



Greed....you have total control of that using the marketplace. *Example 1:
Congress tries to regulate pornography but it's still the most lucrative
business on the internet. *If the people didn't want it, they wouldn't buy
it...and it would dry up and go away. *If you don't like the companies that
pay CEO's big salaries, don't buy their products.


Yes, we have total control to not buy anything or use any financial
service that the gov't bails out. Right. You truly are a moron. How do
we even have access to CEO slalries? We only see the tip of the
iceberg. We don't get the travel receipts of their outings or the
lists of perks they receive. We just have to leave it up to someone as
idiotic as George Bush to tell us that the economy is fine and that
there's nothing to worrry about. You do remember him, and Cheney,
saying that about 3 months ago, don't you?


The president can't spend a dime, can't create laws, or instruct markets
what to do. *Paulson is following laws written by congress. *Congress knew
of the Fanny Mae mess more than 2 years ago and could've prevented it. *They
decided to destroy you to get a democrat in office.


And George Bush and his Treasury Secretary were so blindsided by this
nefarious plot that they had no idea it was taking place as little as
three months ago? Wasn't Bush and his people monitoring what was
taking place? Obviously not. They obviously were not doing their jobs.


NAZI??? *Obama wants a "Civilian National Security Force"....last known
example of that was under Hitler.


I sure didn't hear him advocating that they be given police or
military powers. Or even guns. Sounded more like FDR's call for a
Civilian Conservation Corps. Don't get carried away with YouTube
videos showing blacks in marching ranks, that's just a common practice
for black fraternities.

The suggestion to murder for political reasons is the exact reason liberals
should never be in control.


Too late. We are. You better hide Neocon. But, don't worry, we don't
want to kill you, just your stupid failed neocon policies.

You're a fine example of the hatred and disgust of the left.


Yep. Ditto for you and the right. You lost. Get used to that fact. Go
back, try harder and get better candidates. If you don't get used to
complaining. You seem to be pretty good at it.

America chose to repudiate your philosophy. A significant majority of
Americans disagree with you.

Live with it.

The Atomic Brain November 18th 08 04:04 PM

A Brave New America
 

"David Hartung" wrote in message
...
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed
is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're
scared of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum

save america, kill a neocon today


If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is
completely without merit.

Bush has destroyed nothing.


Better take off the "republican colored glases" before you go blind!



[email protected] November 18th 08 04:11 PM

A Brave New America
 
I liked it more better when I was born on November 5,1941.
www.gitpicker.com
cuhulin


Steve November 18th 08 04:46 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:04:51 -0800, "The Atomic Brain"
wrote:


"David Hartung" wrote in message
m...
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed
is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're
scared of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum

save america, kill a neocon today


If you will look around you, you will realize that your claim is
completely without merit.

Bush has destroyed nothing.


Better take off the "republican colored glases" before you go blind!



Since Zepp's wife left him, he's probably going blind for other
reasons....


It appears that Zeppy has never read a book nor watched a movie
that didn't have some sort of mythical monster, space alien,
dragon, vampire, werewolf, fairy, elf, troll, (ect.).

The fatman will tell you what an intellectual he is.. ..because
he reads Vonnegut, Heinlein, and Rowling... LOL Yes, indeed,
Zepp apparently believes that Harry Potter is a serious intellectual
work.

The poor slob's life has been such a series of failures and
monotonous struggle to support himself, that he needs the
fantasies in order to escape his realities.

It's obviously beyond Zepp's abilities to understand that ignorance
is not cured by reading fiction.... He might have served himself
better by reading some facts instead of the flights of fantasy he
obviously prefers... It might have helped him in the following
areas, where he demonstrates his ignorance.


"Incidently, the fact that the Constitution specifies that people have
a right to vote in a presidential election pretty much takes the
choice of having [a presidential election] out of the hands of the states."
--David B. (Zepp) Jamieson Sun, Sep 3 2006
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...b1561cb?hl=en&


If Nevermore tries paying cap gains with a 1040, he'll
be in jail soon enough.
--David B. (Zepp) Jamieson, Dec 3, 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...3e2029b?hl=en&


"The South couldn't taken any more of the Missouri Compromise,
sensing (correctly) that it would kill slavery in the end,
and Lincoln planned to uphold it."
--Zepp Jamieson
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=9j...hv%404 ax.com


"The first amendment means that you are protected by law from haters."
--David B. (Zepp) Jamieson
"http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&selm=an_541474719


In fact, I question the milk price, since farm supports put a "floor"
on what retailers can charge.
--David B. (Zepp) Jamieson
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...4651011?&hl=en

David Hartung November 18th 08 05:37 PM

A Brave New America
 
Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:03 am, "Doorman" wrote:

You're a lemming.


And you are a neocon.

Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".


1. Protection against warrantless wiretaps
2. Habeas corpus
3. Trial by jury
4. Right to know what actions my gov't deems "necessary" to protect my
freedom


All hogwash.

Greed....you have total control of that using the marketplace. Example 1:
Congress tries to regulate pornography but it's still the most lucrative
business on the internet. If the people didn't want it, they wouldn't buy
it...and it would dry up and go away. If you don't like the companies that
pay CEO's big salaries, don't buy their products.


Yes, we have total control to not buy anything or use any financial
service that the gov't bails out. Right. You truly are a moron. How do
we even have access to CEO slalries?


When did the salary of private citizens become yoru business?

We only see the tip of the
iceberg. We don't get the travel receipts of their outings or the
lists of perks they receive. We just have to leave it up to someone as
idiotic as George Bush to tell us that the economy is fine and that
there's nothing to worrry about. You do remember him, and Cheney,
saying that about 3 months ago, don't you?


Look around you, until our elected federal leadership collectively stuck
their heads up their rears, the basics of our economy were at least as
sound as they were ten years ago. Markets do fluctuate, but the
fundamentals were much the same.

The president can't spend a dime, can't create laws, or instruct markets
what to do. Paulson is following laws written by congress. Congress knew
of the Fanny Mae mess more than 2 years ago and could've prevented it. They
decided to destroy you to get a democrat in office.


And George Bush and his Treasury Secretary were so blindsided by this
nefarious plot that they had no idea it was taking place as little as
three months ago? Wasn't Bush and his people monitoring what was
taking place? Obviously not. They obviously were not doing their jobs.


Nefarious plot?

What on earth are you talking about?

NAZI??? Obama wants a "Civilian National Security Force"....last known
example of that was under Hitler.


I sure didn't hear him advocating that they be given police or
military powers. Or even guns. Sounded more like FDR's call for a
Civilian Conservation Corps. Don't get carried away with YouTube
videos showing blacks in marching ranks, that's just a common practice
for black fraternities.


Obam is a Marxist, and Marxism is a threat to our freedom.

The suggestion to murder for political reasons is the exact reason liberals
should never be in control.


Too late. We are. You better hide Neocon. But, don't worry, we don't
want to kill you, just your stupid failed neocon policies.


You're a fine example of the hatred and disgust of the left.


Yep. Ditto for you and the right. You lost. Get used to that fact. Go
back, try harder and get better candidates. If you don't get used to
complaining. You seem to be pretty good at it.


There is very little difference between the complaining going on now,
than there was when Bush won the White house, twice. The only difference
is the identity of those complaining.

America chose to repudiate your philosophy. A significant majority of
Americans disagree with you.


What philosophy is that?

In truth, the only difference between McCain presidency and the upcoming
Obama presidency, is the how quickly we become a second, or third rate
socialist state. The destination is the same with either man, the only
question is how long the journey takes.

In the for what it is worth category, the Bushes and Clinton's have
already taken us a good long way down the road to socialism.

Mike[_2_] November 18th 08 06:04 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 18, 12:37*pm, David Hartung wrote:


In the for what it is worth category, the Bushes and Clinton's have
already taken us a good long way down the road to socialism.



The fact that you list Clinton, Obama, Bush and McCain as all either
Marxists or Socialists gives everyone enough info about you. You are
an extremist. Even drivers licenses are probably part of the
"nefarious plot." Personally, I don't think there are any American
politicians that you could ever be happy with. I hope you realize that
you are in the extreme minority in terms of your political beliefs.
Can you name one country in the entire world that's not socialist? Can
you name one active politician who's not leading the US down the path
of socialism?

No, of course, you can't. You're a crackpot.

RHF November 18th 08 08:08 PM

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMerica© Bring PaxObama© to the World
 
On Nov 18, 7:01*am, Dave wrote:
CharlesTheCurmudgeon wrote:
Don't bother arguing with Killgod *She's a ranter. *She hates God and thinks
she's more powerful than He is. *You're right, she is a fine example of the
Left.


Charles the Curmudeon


- God? *God who?

Dave - Obama? Obama Who?

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMerica©

1 - The Great and Wonderful Leader Barack of Obama

2 - The Glorious Caring Democrat Party of the USA
United Behind the Great and Wonderful Leader.

3 - The Adoring and Enlightened Peoples of American
Collectively Behind the Glorious Caring Democrat
Party Working as the Vanguards of Social 'Change'
in America by Reeducating the Regressive Anti-
Social Masses to Think-and-Feel-Obama© as One.

ObamaMerica© : One Leader + One Party + One People

A Brave New ObamaMerica© Bring PaxObama© to the World !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxRfsBwou5g
Stand-Up Behind Our Great and Wonder Leader Barack Obama !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDY0BAe_qGQ

Dosvedanya Tovarishch ~ RHF
Commissariat of ObamaMerica©
Civilian Defense Force
Directorate of Internal Security

RHF November 18th 08 08:35 PM

(OT) : It's ObamaMerica© Time - kill the neocons, Kill The Neocons. KILL THE NEOCONS !
 
On Nov 18, 5:49*am, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed is
rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're scared
of the demcorats?


- you should be scared of the
- dumbass nazi neocon republican scum
-
- save america, kill a neocon today

yeah, Yeah. YEAH ! - It's ObamaMerica© Time :
kill the neocons, Kill The Neocons. KILL THE NEOCONS !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx7XNb3Q9Ek

There is something about the smell of . . .
Burning Neocon Bodies : They Smell Like Victory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXVGQnJm0w

respect the right to life of each and every
living human being - irrespective of their
political affiliation or labels ~ RHF

Brenda Ann November 18th 08 08:43 PM

A Brave New America
 

"David Hartung" wrote in message
...
Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:03 am, "Doorman" wrote:

You're a lemming.


And you are a neocon.

Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".


1. Protection against warrantless wiretaps
2. Habeas corpus
3. Trial by jury
4. Right to know what actions my gov't deems "necessary" to protect my
freedom


All hogwash.


Excuse me? This stuff has only been in the news for months/years. CONgress
has even voted to ALLOW warrantless wiretaps. And it's not just 'terror
suspects', it's anyone/everyone (supposedly that gets/receives calls from
overseas, and this includes ALL members of the US military overseas). Maybe
you missed the whistleblowers that came out and said they were (working for
the NSA) listening in on calls from US military officers, et.al. and their
personal phone calls to loved ones back home?

As for #4, this was most definately done by the Patriot Act, in that you are
not allowed to know when you are being investigated simply because you read
a book at your local library that someone feels is possibly subversive.



Mike[_2_] November 18th 08 08:54 PM

(OT) : It's ObamaMerica© Time - kill the neocons, Kill The Neocons. KILL THE NEOCONS !
 
On Nov 18, 3:35*pm, RHF wrote:

yeah, Yeah. YEAH ! - It's ObamaMerica© Time :
kill the neocons, Kill The Neocons. KILL THE NEOCONS !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx7XNb3Q9Ek

There is something about the smell of . . .
Burning Neocon Bodies : They Smell Like Victoryhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXVGQnJm0w

respect the right to life of each and every
living human being - irrespective of their
political affiliation or labels ~ RHF
*.


Take a deep breath and slowly exhale, Roy. Obama is not advocating
killing neocons. Just because an anti-neocon accelerates into
hyperbole is hardly reason to start the airraid sirens. Where were you
when the neocons were calling Obama supporters traitorous Marxists?
That accusation hardly seems less fanatical than the call for dead
neocons. You hang traitors, don't you, Roy?

Follow your own advice about the Obama Presidency, Roy.

Mike

ZNUYBV November 18th 08 08:56 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 18, 7:50 am, Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:03 am, "Doorman" wrote:

You're a lemming.


And you are a neocon.



Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".


1. Protection against warrantless wiretaps
2. Habeas corpus
3. Trial by jury
4. Right to know what actions my gov't deems "necessary" to protect my
freedom

Where do you live? New Jersey?



Greed....you have total control of that using the marketplace. Example 1:
Congress tries to regulate pornography but it's still the most lucrative
business on the internet. If the people didn't want it, they wouldn't buy
it...and it would dry up and go away. If you don't like the companies that
pay CEO's big salaries, don't buy their products.


Yes, we have total control to not buy anything or use any financial
service that the gov't bails out. Right. You truly are a moron. How do
we even have access to CEO slalries? We only see the tip of the
iceberg. We don't get the travel receipts of their outings or the
lists of perks they receive. We just have to leave it up to someone as
idiotic as George Bush to tell us that the economy is fine and that
there's nothing to worrry about. You do remember him, and Cheney,
saying that about 3 months ago, don't you?

The economy was fine until 2007 when the Democrats took over.



The president can't spend a dime, can't create laws, or instruct markets
what to do. Paulson is following laws written by congress. Congress knew
of the Fanny Mae mess more than 2 years ago and could've prevented it. They
decided to destroy you to get a democrat in office.


And George Bush and his Treasury Secretary were so blindsided by this
nefarious plot that they had no idea it was taking place as little as
three months ago? Wasn't Bush and his people monitoring what was
taking place? Obviously not. They obviously were not doing their jobs.

Bush should have thrown Dodd and Frank in jail.



NAZI??? Obama wants a "Civilian National Security Force"....last known
example of that was under Hitler.


I sure didn't hear him advocating that they be given police or
military powers. Or even guns. Sounded more like FDR's call for a
Civilian Conservation Corps. Don't get carried away with YouTube
videos showing blacks in marching ranks, that's just a common practice
for black fraternities.

The suggestion to murder for political reasons is the exact reason liberals
should never be in control.


Too late. We are. You better hide Neocon. But, don't worry, we don't
want to kill you, just your stupid failed neocon policies.


You think you are. You will shortly find out how impotent you are.

You're a fine example of the hatred and disgust of the left.


Yep. Ditto for you and the right. You lost. Get used to that fact. Go
back, try harder and get better candidates. If you don't get used to
complaining. You seem to be pretty good at it.

He didn't lose. You are the loser.

America chose to repudiate your philosophy. A significant majority of
Americans disagree with you.

Live with it.


"Living well is the best revenge."


Bob Campbell November 18th 08 09:01 PM

A Brave New America
 
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" wrote in message
m...

now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed
is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're
scared of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi


Thread over. Godwin's law invoked.


Cato November 18th 08 09:23 PM

A Brave New America
 

David Hartung wrote:

"Yes, I realize that I am in a small minority. I am one of those who
believes that government governs best, when it governs least. "


Reply:
Yes, small minority. But we have to hope that we grow
over time and that other people will wake up. while we still maybe
have some time. As a Canadian, living in a country that has pretty
well gone socialist over the past fifty years, even with the odd
conservative government, I feel pretty alone being a Libertarian.
If I was an American citizen, I would have supported Ron Paul. Not
sure how my American friends and relatives voted.
At least you know your not alone. Libertarians in the U.S., Canada,
and Europe are trying hard to wake people up to the idea of individual
freedom, and personal responsibility, and small government. Government
should be the servant of the people, not the people the servants of
the government.
Best wishes.

dxAce November 18th 08 09:25 PM

A Brave New America
 


Cato wrote:

David Hartung wrote:

"Yes, I realize that I am in a small minority. I am one of those who
believes that government governs best, when it governs least. "

Reply:
Yes, small minority. But we have to hope that we grow
over time and that other people will wake up. while we still maybe
have some time. As a Canadian, living in a country that has pretty
well gone socialist over the past fifty years, even with the odd
conservative government, I feel pretty alone being a Libertarian.
If I was an American citizen, I would have supported Ron Paul. Not
sure how my American friends and relatives voted.
At least you know your not alone. Libertarians in the U.S., Canada,
and Europe are trying hard to wake people up to the idea of individual
freedom, and personal responsibility, and small government. Government
should be the servant of the people, not the people the servants of
the government.
Best wishes.


See! You're NOT a dumbass Canuck!

I applaud your bravery.



RHF November 18th 08 10:03 PM

(OT) : It's ObamaMerica© Time - kill the neocons, Kill The Neocons. KILL THE NEOCONS !
 
On Nov 18, 12:54*pm, Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 3:35*pm, RHF wrote:



yeah, Yeah. YEAH ! - It's ObamaMerica© Time :
kill the neocons, Kill The Neocons. KILL THE NEOCONS !http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx7XNb3Q9Ek


There is something about the smell of . . .
Burning Neocon Bodies : They Smell Like Victoryhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXVGQnJm0w


respect the right to life of each and every
living human being - irrespective of their
political affiliation or labels ~ RHF
*.


Take a deep breath and slowly exhale, Roy. Obama is not advocating
killing neocons. Just because an anti-neocon accelerates into
hyperbole is hardly reason to start the airraid sirens. Where were you
when the neocons were calling Obama supporters traitorous Marxists?
That accusation hardly seems less fanatical than the call for dead
neocons. You hang traitors, don't you, Roy?

Follow your own advice about the Obama Presidency, Roy.

Mike


Mike -dang- It's Howdy Doody Time !
http://www.doodyville.com/singalong.cfm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ-IPXpvRaU

[email protected] November 18th 08 10:14 PM

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMerica© Bring PaxObama© to the World
 
In alt.religion.christian RHF wrote:

Dave - Obama? Obama Who?


The guy your fellow Americans voted in for their next president.

RHF November 18th 08 10:31 PM

(OT) : NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion has aReplacement 'Neocon'
 
On Nov 18, 1:01*pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" wrote in message

m...



now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed
is rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're
scared of the demcorats?


- - you should be scared of the dumbass nazi

- Thread over. * Godwin's law invoked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_Law

NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion.

NAZI = SOCIALIST = MARXIST = COMMUNIST = BAD PEOPLE

NAZI = FASCIST = SKINHEAD = NEOCON = BAD PEOPLE

Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.

Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.

just say no to 'nazi' type name calling ~ RHF

RHF November 18th 08 10:37 PM

(OT) : A Brave New ObamaMerica© Bring PaxObama© to the World
 
On Nov 18, 2:14*pm, wrote:
In alt.religion.christian RHF wrote:


- - Dave - Obama? Obama Who?

- The guy your fellow Americans voted
- in for their next president. *

"Blessed Be The Barack of Obama and
All Praise and Honor Be His Name"©

'we are one with the obama'© ~ RHF

Chester November 18th 08 11:13 PM

Re RHF under the Clever handle obamao.sux.donki.dix,=
 

All OT

[email protected] November 18th 08 11:36 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 18, 7:49*am, "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"
wrote:
now this is funny, bush has completely destroyed the constitution, greed is
rampant, bush singlehandedly destroyed the u.s. economy, and you're scared
of the demcorats?

you should be scared of the dumbass nazi neocon republican scum

save america, kill a neocon today


LMFAO ! I see you are just another ignorant Liberal Fascist Neo-
Commie Liberal that doesn't read REAL books and still doesn't know the
facts of history.
You won't beleive how rediculously stupid you a

http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124122.html

[email protected] November 18th 08 11:43 PM

A Brave New America
 
On Nov 18, 2:43*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"David Hartung" wrote in message

...





Mike wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:03 am, "Doorman" wrote:


You're a lemming.


And you are a neocon.


Name 1 "right" you lost........cite one example of somebody that has
suffered by the "destruction of the Constitution".


1. Protection against warrantless wiretaps
2. Habeas corpus
3. Trial by jury
4. Right to know what actions my gov't deems "necessary" to protect my
freedom


All hogwash.


Excuse me? This stuff has only been in the news for months/years. CONgress
has even voted to ALLOW warrantless wiretaps. And it's not just 'terror
suspects', it's anyone/everyone (supposedly that gets/receives calls from
overseas, and this includes ALL members of the US military overseas). *Maybe
you missed the whistleblowers that came out and said they were (working for
the NSA) listening in on calls from US military officers, et.al. and their
personal phone calls to loved ones back home?


Apparently you know nothing about what the Democrats were up to during
WW2 and under Fuhrer Kennedy.
LOL! Amazing how well the Neo-Communist have erased their own
history. I suggest you start with the rise of Mao Tse Dung.


[email protected] November 19th 08 12:09 AM

A Brave New America
 
The way doggy, she stands by the throne when I take a pee,,,,,,,,,,

When the roll is called up yonderrrrrr,,,,,, I will be therrrrrrrre,,,,,
cuhulin


Billy Burpelson[_2_] November 19th 08 01:41 AM

A Brave New America
 
David Hartung wrote:

Yes, I realize that I am in a small minority. I am one of those who
believes that government governs best, when it governs least.


Amen!

Where is Ron Paul when we *really* need him?

Billy Burpelson[_2_] November 19th 08 01:50 AM

A Brave New America
 
wrote:

You won't beleive how rediculously stupid you a


Here we go again...

You accuse someone of being "rediculously stupid" and yet have two
misspelled words in one (short) sentence. You -do- realize that makes
*you* look "rediculously" stupid.

Grow a brain...or at least figure out how to use the spell checker
before you press the 'Send' key.

Billy Burpelson[_2_] November 19th 08 01:52 AM

A Brave New America
 
David Hartung wrote:

...the basics of our economy were at least as
sound as they were ten years ago. Markets do fluctuate, but the
fundamentals were much the same.


Wow! Are you disconnected from reality!

Ten years ago, you actually had to have a *job* to get a (realistic)
mortgage, not just be able to fog a mirror to get one of those "Liar
Loans". Ten years ago, the motel housekeeper who grossed $24,000/year
(and tens of thousands like her) would *not* be able to get a $739,000
mortgage like she did, as recently reported by the Wall Street Journal.

I'm sorry, but if you think the fundamentals of this economy are "much
the same" and "sound", you've been watching too many McCain ads.

Hmmm, come to think of it, I don't remember the Big Three auto companies
teetering on the brink of bankruptcy ten years ago, either. A MAJOR
industry that employs one in ten people in this country ready to go
belly up. Sure sounds 'fundamentally sound' to me.

NOT!

[email protected] November 19th 08 03:01 AM

more off topic garbage posted by rhf aka retired halfassed fool
 

Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup
which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to
shortwave radio information.

And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off
topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter
obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to
do so.

Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting
your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups.


Mike[_2_] November 19th 08 03:13 AM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way TheyDefine Nazi
 
On Nov 18, 5:31�pm, RHF wrote:

NAZI = "The-N-Word" of any Political Discussion.

NAZI = SOCIALIST = MARXIST = COMMUNIST = BAD PEOPLE

NAZI = FASCIST = SKINHEAD = NEOCON = BAD PEOPLE

Looks like "Neocon" has become the new name
calling word for 'nazi' in the 21st Century.

Plus calling some one a "Neocon" has those
subtle Anti-Jewish undertones -and- "Neocon"
has a decided Anti-Israel-Zionist Overtone.

just say no to 'nazi' type name calling ~ RHF
�.


Roy,

Real Nazis represent one of the most evil forces in history. You are
right that anyone that anyone that suggests that a Neocon is the same
as a Nazi is clearly exaggerating. Here's the way it really is:

Neocons embrace conservatism. Nazis also embraced conservatism, but in
a very extreme form of statist nationalism. Think neocon on steroids.
While most neocons are not racists, many of their positions on
national patriotism, national security, and the importance of security
over individual freedoms, are definitely pointed in the same fascist
direction that the Nazis started with.

Liberals are not the same as Marxists or Socialists. But, just as the
neocons are moving in the same direction as Nazis, the liberals are
more like Marxist or Commies than Nazis. A Marxist is like a liberal
on nasty steroids. Nazis are the opposite of Marxists or Socialists.
One of Hitler's first steps toward World War was to burn down the
Reichstag and blame it on the Commies and Socialists. The Nazi
Fascists fought against the Soviet Marxists in WW2. It is estimated
that 25 million Marxists died fighting the invading Fascist Nazis.
Anyone that calls a Commie Marxist a Nazi or a Fascist is attempting
to re-write history.

So, neocons are not fascists and liberal are not Marxists. Both
extremes are undesirable. Unless real American stand up to these
foolish exaggerations, the people that distort history for their own
political ends will prevent the people of this nation from uniting and
really dealing with our societal problems.

Obama is not a Marxist and I don't think most neocons (with the
possible exception of Dick "Shotgun" Cheney) are Nazis. Let's stop
this foolishness and realize that such hyperbole is a clear indication
of a crackpot.

I'm willing to bet that I'm the only one in this thread that has
actual college degrees in Government and Public Affairs.

Mike

Chester November 19th 08 03:19 AM

More off topic crap
 
On Nov 18, 8:35*am, wrote


Mike[_2_] November 19th 08 03:24 AM

more off topic garbage posted by rhf aka retired halfassed fool
 
On Nov 18, 10:01�pm, wrote:
Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup
which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to
shortwave radio information.

And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off
topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter
obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to
do so.

Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting
your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups.


Pot. Kettle. Black.

RHF November 19th 08 03:43 AM

FEBA -YASKI "Hope of the Heart" on 9435 kHz @ 23:10 UTC
 
On Nov 18, 7:01*pm, wrote:
Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup
which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to
shortwave radio information.

And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off
topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter
obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to
do so.

Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting
your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups.


Little Fake Phony 'salty-fish-sa' without the 'uce'
from NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.154.10.254

THEN START BY POSTING SOMETHING ON-TOPIC YOURSELF.
- - - For Example - - -

FEBA -YASKI "Hope of the Heart" on 9435 kHz @ 23:10 UTC

YASKI Broadcasts from the Philippines to Indonesia in the
Indonesian Language with Program ID "Hope of the Heart"

"YASKI" Indonesian Christian Broadcasting Foundation
http://www.yaski.co.id/english/about-us.asp
http://www.yaski.co.id/english/index.asp
YASKI is part of the FEBC and FEBA Organization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Eas...any#FEBC_Partn...

YASKI "Indonesian" Shortwave Broadcast Schedule
for FEBC Manila, Philippines.
http://www.yaski.co.id/english/radio-internasional.asp
FEBC Manila SW2 on 9435 kHz in the 31 Metre SW Band

Far East Broadcasting Company (FEBC)
FEBC - www.febc.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Eas...asting_Company

FEBC Manila, Philippines Shortwave Radio Frequencies
http://fmscan.org/net.php?r=s&m=s&it...EBC+Manila&rg=

[email protected] November 19th 08 03:47 AM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way TheyDefine Nazi
 
On Nov 18, 9:13*pm, Mike wrote:

Real Nazis represent one of the most evil forces in history. You are
right that anyone that anyone that suggests that a Neocon is the same
as a Nazi is clearly exaggerating. Here's the way it really is:


LMFAO!!!! - I STRONGLYsuggest you Liberal Facsists read "Your Own"
history before you stick your foot in your mouth so far down it pops
out of your fat ass:

" Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From
Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning"

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis.../dp/0385511841
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/124122.html

Heil Hitler (get used to it)


Mike[_2_] November 19th 08 12:44 PM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way TheyDefine Nazi
 
On Nov 18, 10:47�pm, wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:13�pm, Mike wrote:



Real Nazis represent one of the most evil forces in history. You are
right that anyone that anyone that suggests that a Neocon is the same
as a Nazi is clearly exaggerating. Here's the way it really is:


LMFAO!!!! - I STRONGLYsuggest you Liberal Facsists read "Your Own"
history before you stick your foot in your mouth so far down it pops
out of your fat ass:

" Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From
Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning"

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis...ow/124122.html

Heil Hitler (get used to it)



As I originally wrote: We must stand up against people (like you!)
that re-write history for their own purposes. Mussolini was opposed by
US liberals during the '30s, while he was supported by US
conservatives. That's a historical fact that you can't escape, "donki
dix"!

dxAce November 19th 08 12:51 PM

(OT) : You Can ID the Historically Illiterate by The Way They DefineNazi
 


Mike wrote:

On Nov 18, 10:47�pm, wrote:
On Nov 18, 9:13�pm, Mike wrote:



Real Nazis represent one of the most evil forces in history. You are
right that anyone that anyone that suggests that a Neocon is the same
as a Nazi is clearly exaggerating. Here's the way it really is:


LMFAO!!!! - I STRONGLYsuggest you Liberal Facsists read "Your Own"
history before you stick your foot in your mouth so far down it pops
out of your fat ass:

" Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From
Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning"

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis...ow/124122.html

Heil Hitler (get used to it)


As I originally wrote: We must stand up against people (like you!)
that re-write history for their own purposes.


Didn't you try to re-write history for your own purposes by claiming that you had a PhD?

Mussolini was opposed by
US liberals during the '30s, while he was supported by US
conservatives. That's a historical fact that you can't escape, "donki
dix"!



Asshole BOB Killfiled November 19th 08 01:33 PM

more off topic garbage posted by rhf aka retired halfassed fool
 
Like the man said asswipe, this is a shortwave group dedicated to shortwave
topics...not politics and childish bickering.
How much time do you spend on typing this ****? What a waste. How much
time do you spend slandering others in the group? What a waste.
Get your childish act together and start acting like a responsible adult.
How many times have others asked shortwave related questions lately only to
be ignored. You's seem to have your own ****ing little group established to
tear each other down. A little insane, no?
This place is ripe for psychological studies. 101 to advanced!
"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4923d906.2502828@chupacabra...
wrote:

Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup
which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to
shortwave radio information.


A right?
like in the bill of rights?
or does it just sound like a good preamble to more sniveling about
someone else off topic screed?

And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off
topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter
obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to
do so.


A refinement of the original whine about how someone can find their way
onto usenet yet remain ignorant of kill filters and other such methods
to tailor the content they are confronted with.

Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting
your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups.


Spoken with all the authority that googlegroups connotes to anyone.

I never thought I'd be defending Roy (Hussein) Fisk, or even giving the
appearance of doing so, but you are a magnitude more obnoxious with your
patronizing admonitions. If you know so much about the exigencies of
usenet, why don't you just use your own kill filter on him and any other
undesirable folk, including me?

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42





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