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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW
broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. (I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 6:34*pm, wrote:
I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. Of course a quality tabletop like the Icom R75 will be great, but only if connected to a good outside antenna or outside active antenna. You will be surprised what your Sony 7600GR can do with a decent antenna though. Good luck and good listening John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s Icom IC-7700, Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods ERGO software Drake SW8. Sangean 803A Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100 Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop. http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
For about $1,000 Check out Onkyo and Yamaha to name just a few.
Many of the latest new receivers are coming out with LAN support for internet radio. This will allow you to hear any station on the web in crystal clear digital sound 24 by 7. In addition you will have built- in HD radio and XM, XM-HD 5.1 surround, and much much more like digital coax, optical and HDMI inputs for 5.1 surround sound sources. The list goes on... SW is dead |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 12:34*pm, wrote:
It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. Of course a quality tabletop like the Icom R75 will be great, but only if connected to a good outside antenna or outside active antenna. You will be surprised what your Sony 7600GR can do with a decent antenna though. Good luck and good listening John Plimmer, Montagu, Western Cape Province, South Africa South 33 d 47 m 32 s, East 20 d 07 m 32 s Icom IC-7700, Icom IC-756 PRO III with MW mods ERGO software Drake SW8. Sangean 803A Sony 7600D, GE SRIII, Redsun RP2100 Antenna's RF Systems DX 1 Pro Mk II, Datong AD-270 Kiwa MW Loop.http://www.dxing.info/about/dxers/plimmer.dx- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks John for the quick reply. I notice the MFJ-1020C has a coaxial (SO-239) output to receiver. My 7600GR has a 1/8" (3.5mm) antenna input. Can I connect the two together with a short coaxial cable with a coax-to-mini adapter on the end? Or will the adapter cause some sort of problem (poor reception or worse, fry my radio)? I think I saw a coax to mini adapter at Universal Radio's website. Thanks again. |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 12:53*pm, Drifter wrote:
wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! I go with John, mount a good antenna. but, i'm not sure what the front end is like in the 7600. a good receiver is only as good as the antenna you use. i like the R75, good receiver. and don't forget the Palstar R30. you can find good receivers on the used market. just be careful. i would stay away from the E1, too many returns on this one. you could check the yahoo groups for info on any model receiver. eham is also good. just remember, what works for me may not work for you. in your area, you have a good used list in- *http://www.ontarioswapshop..com/ this list is up dated on Mondays. good luck. Drifter...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks Drifter, I didn't know about the swap shop. |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 12:53*pm, Drifter wrote:
wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! I go with John, mount a good antenna. but, i'm not sure what the front end is like in the 7600. a good receiver is only as good as the antenna you use. i like the R75, good receiver. and don't forget the Palstar R30. you can find good receivers on the used market. just be careful. i would stay away from the E1, too many returns on this one. you could check the yahoo groups for info on any model receiver. eham is also good. just remember, what works for me may not work for you. in your area, you have a good used list in- *http://www.ontarioswapshop..com/ this list is up dated on Mondays. good luck. Drifter... I go with John & Drifter a good random wire antenna and a co-ax lead into your receiver is the way to go. - and I would try TWO antennas, one up in your attic ; hopefullt pointing north - south and one on your fence, Both fed by Co-ax lead ins. Each one will work best for different frequencies. In dry winter conditions, ground yourself before touching the receiver; and disconnecT the antennas when not in use. The Sony is a fine receiver. Very good sound quality when used with headphones. I have a R-75, but it is over kill for what I listen to; - But Great for Pirates ! Have fun ! infowars.com/listen.html#instructions_ajs |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote:
I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! I am in the process of writing up a review of the new Grundig Satellit 750. This receiver is hugely sensitive for World Band SW but requires a GOOD outdoor antenna. I use a Hustler 5BTV vertical, ground mounted, and for me this combination has resulted in superb reception with strong signals exceeding anything I have previously used such as the ATS909, etc. I haven't done a comparison with high end radios, like the E1 and R75, but am more than satisfied with the 750. This radio is very flexible with a great memory setup. I would suggest you check out the 750 first on the Eton website, under Grundig heading at www.eton.com to see if this radio would fulfil your requirements. There is a PDF file for the owners manual there. The price here in Canada was $ 299.00 plus tax. My review on the 750 will be posted to Eham Net in the next little while. This is a good time to check out everything available, but for the very best results check out outdoor antennas, such a verticles, if you are space limited. If I had it to do again, I would start out with best portable or one of the mid priced tabletops and a good antenna mounted outdoors. Like you I have a very noisy location, but the 750 and Hustler verticle cut right through the noise level and produce an amazingly low noise floor. 73 and good luck in choosing your recever, from SW4ever. |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 6:38*pm, SW4ever wrote:
On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! I am in the process of writing up a review of the new Grundig Satellit 750. This receiver is hugely sensitive for World Band SW but requires a GOOD outdoor antenna. I use a Hustler 5BTV vertical, ground mounted, and for me this combination has resulted in superb reception with strong signals exceeding anything I have previously used such as the ATS909, etc. I haven't done a comparison with high end radios, like the E1 and R75, but am more than satisfied with the 750. This radio is very flexible with a great memory setup. I would suggest you check out the 750 first on the Eton website, under Grundig heading atwww.eton.com* to see if this radio would fulfil your requirements. There is a PDF file for the owners manual there. The price here in Canada was $ 299.00 plus tax. My review on the 750 will be posted to Eham Net in the next little while. This is a good time to check out everything available, but for the very best results check out outdoor antennas, such a verticles, if you are space limited. If I had it to do again, I would start out with best portable or one of the mid priced tabletops and a good antenna mounted outdoors. Like you I have a very noisy location, but the 750 and Hustler verticle cut right through the noise level and produce an amazingly low noise floor. 73 and good luck in choosing your recever, from SW4ever.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Thanks everyone for the tips. I will take the majority's advice and stick with my 7600GR. THe SAtellit 750 does sound tempting though. I think I will order an MFJ-1020c and hook it up to a random wire in my backyard. I have another thread going to get advice on the details of that setup (e.g., feedline, ground, etc.). Thanks again. Todd Todd |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
Dear Sir,
May I quickly add my two cents worth? Before you buy anything, try using your Sony ICF-SW7600GR and your Sony AN-LP1 Active Antenna as you normally do. If that is not satisfactory in receiving the signals you desire, try moving the AN-LP1 to another window, preferably one which is at a 90° angle to your original window placement. Also try moving to another room. Sometimes the above is all that is necessary for better reception. Please also note that, while signal strength has been improving of late, we are still only at the beginning of Sunspot Cycle 24 and reception is mediocre in general, especially in the afternoons. I have been finding 21470 at about 1600 UTC pretty fair at receiving the BBC; also 17830 and, later the afternoons, 15400. Deutsche Welle comes in fairly well on 11690 at 2100 UTC. Note that sometimes that 11690 frequency is interfered with by RTTY; the Sony's sync circuit eliminates this interference. If you do choose to buy another receiver, make certain that it has a synchronous detection circuit AND features selectable-sideband sync. But those signals have not been consistent. On some days they can come in like gangbusters and on other days it is difficult to hear them at all. This is unfortunately the nature of shortwave reception, especially when we are at the bottom of a sunspot cycle. If all else fails over the next couple of months, then you may consider upgrading your antenna. The antenna (which MUST be matched to the receiver) is of prime importance in receiving faint radio signals. I have found, over the years, that the Sony ICF-SW7600GR used with a Sony AN-LP1 is a really a fine receiving setup. Best, Joe On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 8:34*am, wrote:
I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! Todddem, You already have the "PC" so the Ten Tec RX 320D is a viable Receiver to consider. http://radio.tentec.com/amateur/receivers/RX320D http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0321.html As "JP" pointed out as critical {may be more critical} then the SWL Receiver is the Shortwave Antenna. -IF- African is your 'target' reception area -or- more importantly Broadcasts from Europe to Africa. Then a Dipole Antenna may be your better 'choice' in Shortwave Listening Antennas. The Eavesdropper-T 'Trapped' Dipole Antenna is about 43 Feet Long, and can be pointed broadside to either Europe {East} or Africa {SE} from Canada. http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/sw_ant/0680.html The B&W ASW-60 Multi-Band Trap Dipole Antenna is about 35 Feet Long, and again can be pointed broadside to either Europe {East} or Africa {SE} from Canada. http://www.bwantennas.com/ama/specials.ama.htm#asw60 iane ~ RHF |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote: SNIP Either arrangement will be fine. Don't forget -- you say you live in a noisy RF environment. The better your antenna, the better it will pick up the signal...AND the noise. SNIP Don't know much about antennas do you. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
wrote:
On Nov 19, 6:34 pm, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. (I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. This thing looks quite promising, other than the fact you have to have (yech) Windows to run it: http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
Dave wrote:
wrote: On Nov 19, 6:34 pm, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. (I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. This thing looks quite promising, other than the fact you have to have (yech) Windows to run it: http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html Oh joy. Turns out this will work on Linux. Temptation rears its ugly head. |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
Hay Joe. pardon the top post. little FYI here. i do better at
16:00u on 12095 for the BBC. i'm thinking it's just my PA mountains. most of the time 21470 is iffy here. could be the receiver here, been playing with my NRD 515 for the last few weeks. but, the JRC wasn't as good as the 7030 on RSH last weekend. but, if 21470 is bad, try 12095. or pray for sun spots. GOOD DX! Drifter... Joe Analssandrini wrote: Dear Sir, May I quickly add my two cents worth? Before you buy anything, try using your Sony ICF-SW7600GR and your Sony AN-LP1 Active Antenna as you normally do. If that is not satisfactory in receiving the signals you desire, try moving the AN-LP1 to another window, preferably one which is at a 90° angle to your original window placement. Also try moving to another room. Sometimes the above is all that is necessary for better reception. Please also note that, while signal strength has been improving of late, we are still only at the beginning of Sunspot Cycle 24 and reception is mediocre in general, especially in the afternoons. I have been finding 21470 at about 1600 UTC pretty fair at receiving the BBC; also 17830 and, later the afternoons, 15400. Deutsche Welle comes in fairly well on 11690 at 2100 UTC. Note that sometimes that 11690 frequency is interfered with by RTTY; the Sony's sync circuit eliminates this interference. If you do choose to buy another receiver, make certain that it has a synchronous detection circuit AND features selectable-sideband sync. But those signals have not been consistent. On some days they can come in like gangbusters and on other days it is difficult to hear them at all. This is unfortunately the nature of shortwave reception, especially when we are at the bottom of a sunspot cycle. If all else fails over the next couple of months, then you may consider upgrading your antenna. The antenna (which MUST be matched to the receiver) is of prime importance in receiving faint radio signals. I have found, over the years, that the Sony ICF-SW7600GR used with a Sony AN-LP1 is a really a fine receiving setup. Best, Joe On Nov 19, 11:34 am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. (I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
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wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. I can get the BBC on 15400 here in Seattle, (round 20-22:00) but it's down there at the limit of listenability. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? I'd say that you've got a pretty good receiver already. The couple of units that nobody has mentioned, (if you've got a couple of hundred extra dollars burning a hole in your pocket), is that you can get boxes that combine two antennas that allow you cancel out local noise and, depending on how the two antennas are arraigned, signals on the same frequency coming in from another direction. MFJ makes a couple, and I can't remember the name of the other company (Timewave?). Another option are the broadband loop antennas that can be rotated to null out noise. (Wellbrook). Mark Zenier Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com) |
RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver
On Nov 20, 6:47*am, Dave wrote:
Dave wrote: wrote: On Nov 19, 6:34 pm, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. - - This thing looks quite promising, - - other than the fact you have to have - - (yech) Windows to run it: - - http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html - Oh joy. -*Turns out this will work on Linux. -*Temptation rears its ugly head. Dave - Go-A-Head Do-It : Buy-It and Try-It RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html then tell us how you like it ~ RHF |
RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver
RHF wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:47 am, Dave wrote: Dave wrote: wrote: On Nov 19, 6:34 pm, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. (I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. - - This thing looks quite promising, - - other than the fact you have to have - - (yech) Windows to run it: - - http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html - Oh joy. - Turns out this will work on Linux. - Temptation rears its ugly head. Dave - Go-A-Head Do-It : Buy-It and Try-It RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html then tell us how you like it ~ RHF . I generally don't buy receive-only radios these days. |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 19, 8:02*pm, Joe Analssandrini
wrote: Dear Sir, May I quickly add my two cents worth? Before you buy anything, try using your Sony ICF-SW7600GR and your Sony AN-LP1 Active Antenna as you normally do. If that is not satisfactory in receiving the signals you desire, try moving the AN-LP1 to another window, preferably one which is at a 90° angle to your original window placement. Also try moving to another room. Sometimes the above is all that is necessary for better reception. Please also note that, while signal strength has been improving of late, we are still only at the beginning of Sunspot Cycle 24 and reception is mediocre in general, especially in the afternoons. I have been finding 21470 at about 1600 UTC pretty fair at receiving the BBC; also 17830 and, later the afternoons, 15400. Deutsche Welle comes in fairly well on 11690 at 2100 UTC. Note that sometimes that 11690 frequency is interfered with by RTTY; the Sony's sync circuit eliminates this interference. If you do choose to buy another receiver, make certain that it has a synchronous detection circuit AND features selectable-sideband sync. But those signals have not been consistent. On some days they can come in like gangbusters and on other days it is difficult to hear them at all. This is unfortunately the nature of shortwave reception, especially when we are at the bottom of a sunspot cycle. If all else fails over the next couple of months, then you may consider upgrading your antenna. The antenna (which MUST be matched to the receiver) is of prime importance in receiving faint radio signals. I have found, over the years, that the Sony ICF-SW7600GR used with a Sony AN-LP1 is a really a fine receiving setup. Best, Joe On Nov 19, 11:34*am, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks!- Hide quoted text - As usual, let me disagree with Joe. Though I have to admit that he's right that the 7600GR is a very impressive subcompact portable, I'm not that impressed by it's performance with the AN-LP1. I own two AN- LP1s and neither has ever been that good when used with either my 7600G or GR. Too much noise. Drowns out weak daytime reception of stations not broadcasting to North America. The 7600 series radios already have a high noise floor and the AN-LP1 just makes the problem worse. Instead, I get much better performance out of 25' of wire, even when laid on the ground. The radio is sensitive enough that the wire suffices to hear all kinds of broadcasts targeted at Europe and Africa. The secret is to find someway to get the wire outside. An external wire will usually run circles around anything inside. Some folks tell me that there are active internal antennas up in the $350 to $400 price range that are very impressive, but I'd prefer to use that money on another receiver (admittedly, I own too many!). The AN-LP1 works much better with the Eton E5 (lower noise floor), a Sony 2010, or even an Icom R-75. Just my opinion, Mike Louisville, KY |
RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver
Mike wrote:
On Nov 21, 10:55�pm, Dave wrote: Mike wrote: On Nov 21, 9:12 am, Dave wrote: I generally don't buy receive-only radios these days Yes, you do everything possible to emphasize your own superiority....You must be compensating for very low self-esteem. I had no such intention. �I was literally thinking out loud, nothing more. �You may be projecting, Sigmund. SDR is what's superior, to be sure. Uh, Dave, isn't an SDR a receive-only radio? You avoid those, right? No. There are several SDR transceivers; I am lucky enough to own one. If I had a lot of money I'd get this one: http://www.flex-radio.com/ |
RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver
Telamon wrote:
In article , Mike wrote: On Nov 21, 9:12?am, Dave wrote: I generally don't buy receive-only radios these days Yes, you do everything possible to emphasize your own superiority....You must be compensating for very low self-esteem. I may not agree much with Dave but he is a good guy in my book. He gave me a good deal on a Drake R8B. Thanks again Dave! The pleasure was all mine. The Ten-Tec provides countless hours of fun; the Drake would usually stay parked on the Coast Guard. |
more off topic garbage by rhf aka Retired Halfassed Fool
Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup
which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to shortwave radio information. And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to do so. Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups. . |
more off topic garbage by rhf aka Retired Halfassed Fool
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RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver
On Nov 21, 10:55�pm, Dave wrote: Mike wrote: On Nov 21, 9:12 am, Dave wrote: I generally don't buy receive-only radios these days Yes, you do everything possible to emphasize your own superiority....You must be compensating for very low self-esteem. I had no such intention. �I was literally thinking out loud, nothing more. �You may be projecting, Sigmund. SDR is what's superior, to be sure. Mike wrote: Uh, Dave, isn't an SDR a receive-only radio? No, not at all; there are several SDR ham transceivers -- Ten Tec and Flex Radio being two notable examples. |
(OT) : RHF -proclaims- Dave/DaviD Is "SPECIAL" -cause- He DoesHave A {Cringe Factor} Way With Words !
RHF wrote:
On Nov 22, 9:45 am, Mike wrote: On Nov 22, 1:18 am, Telamon I may not agree much with Dave but he is a good guy in my book. He gave me a good deal on a Drake R8B. Well, I respect you enough, Telamon, to reconsider my judgement on Dave. But to be honest, I consider myself from the left-most fringe of the Democratic party and he makes me cringe! When I combine his pro- anarchy politics with his constant shilling of IBOC and pronouncements that "shortwave is dead," it's usually hard to give him much credibility. But, I'll try to be think about it a little more. Mike Louisville, KY MWB, Yes 'Dave' does exhibit the "Cringe" Factor from time to time. And let's not forget that 'Dave' is "SPECIAL" too! SPECIAL: Only chance to save capitalism (if that's what you want) http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...c614333dbc9176 Note - That there are about 54 Dave/DaviD "SPECIAL" Postings. Plus 'Dave' has a way with words also : * "Most of all, kill CNBC." * "Churches should be taxed into extinction. They are evil." * "George Bush is a mega-terrorist." * "Marriage is a ridiculous cult practice" * "The War on Terror is total bull****." * "I got yer God... in my PANTS!" * "Sieg Heil! Y'all!" * "I am an atheist, not an elitist." * "Religion is bull**** with a big shiny ribbon on it." * "My dad was an asshole" Note - That there are about 343 "Dave/DaviD -proclaims-" Postings. ~ RHF . I stand by each and every one as having been stated. |
RFspace SDR-IQ with RF DSP HF Receiver
Telamon wrote:
In article , "Randy Quaidd" wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article Unfortunately we also have our share of sociopaths that post here that just generate noise. Tela-trud is complaining about *other* posters' being sociopaths? Now THATS funny! Tela-twit takes no responsibility for any of the 'noise' in this newsgroup? He's the one that started the kindling and blew on it. Pot, meet kettle. If Telamon behaved himself....then we wouldn't have half the noise we see here. Don't worry about me worry about yourself toilet breath. If you choose to ****-up an on-topic thread with personal bickering, please do us the favor of modifying the header. I had my hopes up that I could actually talk some cutting edge communications electronics... |
(OT) : The "Ping-Pong" Game Continues . . . Score 13 Posts
(OT) : The "Ping-Pong" Game Continues . . . Score 13 Posts
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Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
On Nov 20, 6:47*am, Dave wrote:
Dave wrote: wrote: On Nov 19, 6:34 pm, wrote: I live in Ontario, Canada. *My goal is to listen to daytime SW broadcasts beamed to Africa by the likes of BBC, DW, VOA, RNW, etc. Right now I have a Sony 7600GR with a few indoor antennas (reel antenna, ANLP1, etc.). *With this equipment it's difficult to get good reception of these daytime signals. I plan to install a wire antenna (around 30 feet long), either outdoors along my 5.5' high wooden fence (I live in the suburbs) or in my attic. Will a Sony portable and an outdoor/attic wire be enough to get consistently good reception of these stations? *Or should I get a better receiver? If so, what receiver should I buy? Portable choices: Sangean ATS-909 (I hear it can handle long antennas) Eton E1XM Tabletop choices: Icom R75 Icom R1500 used Kenwood, Yaesu, etc. (ebay) PC-controlled choices Ten Tec Rx-320D The Icom R75 is a little pricy for me ($700 here in Canada). But if it is that much better than say, the Eton E1 at fishing out these broadcast signals then I will seriously consider it. I'm also a little afraid of buying a PC receiver because I live in a noisy RF environment. *(I like the thought of receiving DRM, though!) Thanks! It's all to do with having the best antenna you can rig up on your suburban lot. There are many variations of wire antenna's to try in an inexpensive experiment, If that doesn't work there are a whole lot of options on excellent active antenna's. One of the best combo's is a simple outside wire antenna connected to the MFJ 1020C as recommended in Passport 2009. Try that before you go spending big bucks. This thing looks quite promising, other than the fact you have to have (yech) Windows to run it: http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...rxvr/0106.html Oh joy. *Turns out this will work on Linux. *Temptation rears its ugly head. ActiveX on a linux platform? |
Best Rx $1K for daytime SWL (BBC beam to Africa, etc.)
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More childish tit-for-tat from telamon
does anyone really expect telamon to change any of his ways? he has show
himself to the the childish + immature person he is by this ongoing tit-for-tat debate. by filling up this newsgroup with so much clutter....he is no better than the people he criticizes. i have given up hope on him....just filter him out "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Hall Monitor" wrote: "Hall Monitor" wrote in message ... "Telamon" wrote in message .. . In article , wrote: Shortwave radio enthusiasts have a right to enjoy a newsgroup which was established for them and is supposed to be dedicated to shortwave radio information. And they have a right to do so without wading through all the off topic garbage you post and it isn't incumbent upon them to filter obnoxious morons like you out, also many don't have the capability to do so. Start behaving like a responsible adult and filter yourself by posting your nonsense in the appropriate newsgroups. . Stop being a retard and make an on topic post yourself. What was it Brenda Ann said about you once being a responsible adult? Quote: Telamon, What ever happened to the intelligent adult that used to be here? Since when did you begin getting in to these childish "I know you are, but what am I" conversations? Quote: I have made many on-topic posts....just with a different handle. You are a coward and a lier toilet breath. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
More retarded crap from Trolling idiots
In article , wrote:
does anyone really expect telamon to change any of his ways? he has show himself to the the childish + immature person he is by this ongoing tit-for-tat debate. by filling up this newsgroup with so much clutter....he is no better than the people he criticizes. i have given up hope on him....just filter him out You are a good example of why people would not want to post their real name. You making false accusations against me is a good reason right there. The fist time you post here you attack me is a good reason to know that you are just another dumb Trolling idiot. I have 5 Trolling posts from you total in this news group all attacking me and that's it. Nice try goofball. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
More retarded crap from Telamon
Of course it's always someone else.
And of course, people are attacking him for no good reason. And of course, Telemon has been on his best behavior for the last 4 years.....an exemplarary participant in this newsgroup. Could it have anything to do with him? Nahhhhh..... Course not! "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: does anyone really expect telamon to change any of his ways? he has show himself to the the childish + immature person he is by this ongoing tit-for-tat debate. by filling up this newsgroup with so much clutter....he is no better than the people he criticizes. i have given up hope on him....just filter him out You are a good example of why people would not want to post their real name. You making false accusations against me is a good reason right there. The fist time you post here you attack me is a good reason to know that you are just another dumb Trolling idiot. I have 5 Trolling posts from you total in this news group all attacking me and that's it. Nice try goofball. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
More retarded crap from Telamon
ummmm.......so?
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: does anyone really expect telamon to change any of his ways? he has show himself to the the childish + immature person he is by this ongoing tit-for-tat debate. by filling up this newsgroup with so much clutter....he is no better than the people he criticizes. i have given up hope on him....just filter him out You are a good example of why people would not want to post their real name. You making false accusations against me is a good reason right there. The fist time you post here you attack me is a good reason to know that you are just another dumb Trolling idiot. I have 5 Trolling posts from you total in this news group all attacking me and that's it. Nice try goofball. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
More retarded crapfrom Hall Monitor 1, 2, 3, 4, etcetera
and the hits just keep on coming....
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: does anyone really expect telamon to change any of his ways? he has show himself to the the childish + immature person he is by this ongoing tit-for-tat debate. by filling up this newsgroup with so much clutter....he is no better than the people he criticizes. i have given up hope on him....just filter him out You are a good example of why people would not want to post their real name. You making false accusations against me is a good reason right there. The fist time you post here you attack me is a good reason to know that you are just another dumb Trolling idiot. I have 5 Trolling posts from you total in this news group all attacking me and that's it. Nice try goofball. ummmm.......so? Oh, gee I don't know. What do you think? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
More retarded crapfrom Hall Monitor 1, 2, 3, 4, etcetera
In article , wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: does anyone really expect telamon to change any of his ways? he has show himself to the the childish + immature person he is by this ongoing tit-for-tat debate. by filling up this newsgroup with so much clutter....he is no better than the people he criticizes. i have given up hope on him....just filter him out You are a good example of why people would not want to post their real name. You making false accusations against me is a good reason right there. The fist time you post here you attack me is a good reason to know that you are just another dumb Trolling idiot. I have 5 Trolling posts from you total in this news group all attacking me and that's it. Nice try goofball. ummmm.......so? Oh, gee I don't know. What do you think? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
More retarded crap from Hall Monitor 1, 2, 3, 4, etcetera
In article ,
"Hall Monitor2" wrote: SNIP Of course it's always someone else. Yes, you. And of course, people are attacking him for no good reason. That would be you again. And of course, Telemon has been on his best behavior for the last 4 years.....an exemplarary participant in this newsgroup. The topic is you not me. Could it have anything to do with him? Nahhhhh..... You like to attack me. You must be really bored. Course not! Not very observant are you. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
More retarded crap from Hall Monitor 1, 2, 3, 4, etcetera
and you just keep on with the tit for tat.
maybe yur really a tela-tit-4-tat... "Telamon" wrote in message ... In article , "Hall Monitor2" wrote: SNIP Of course it's always someone else. Yes, you. And of course, people are attacking him for no good reason. That would be you again. And of course, Telemon has been on his best behavior for the last 4 years.....an exemplarary participant in this newsgroup. The topic is you not me. Could it have anything to do with him? Nahhhhh..... You like to attack me. You must be really bored. Course not! Not very observant are you. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
More retarded crap from Hall Monitor 1, 2, 3, 4, etcetera
In article , wrote:
SNIP and the hits just keep on coming.... You have a problem with it? -- Telamon Ventura, California |
More retarded crap from Hall Monitor 1, 2, 3, 4, etcetera
In article , wrote:
SNIP and you just keep on with the tit for tat. maybe yur really a tela-tit-4-tat... Very observant of you. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
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