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I don't pay any attention to the gentlemen in question. I
have grave doubts that what they teach is truly the Word of God.

See, that's the point, Hartung

Millions do----and they send tens of millions in
contributions to the *******s who in turn funnel it
into PACs to inject religious belief into law

Dobson has/had enough control over the GOP platform
committee to have had the power to summon Neut Gingrich
and the entire GOP leadership before him and threaten
them with retaliation unless his "agenda" was included
in legislation pending before government.

When, specifically did this happen?

March 18th, 1998..

US News, May 4, 1998 http://www.usnews.com

By the way, the linkl you provided goes to the currewnt page

That's my link, David.. Couldn't you tell by simply looking
that the URL would go the the 'front page' of that web-site?

A Righteous Indignation

James Dobson--psychologist, radio host, family-values crusader -
- is set to topple the political establishment

BY MICHAEL J. GERSON

On March 18, in the basement of the Capitol, 25 House Republicans
met with psychologist James Dobson for some emotional venting. But
this was not personal therapy; it concerned the fate of their party.
Dobson, long on loyal radio listeners and short on patience, was
threatening, in effect, to bring down the GOP unless it made
conservative social issues, including abortion, a higher legislative
priority. "If I go," he has said, "I will do everything I can to
take as many people with me as possible."

In the audience sat some of Dobson's closest ideological allies.
Rep. Steve Largent of Oklahoma, a former star football player,
was a volunteer speaker for Dobson's organization, Focus on the
Family, from 1990 to 1993. He credits this with "sparking my
interest in public policy." Rep. James Talent of Missouri, years
before, had pulled off the highway and prayed along with Dobson
on the radio to become a Christian. "He is the instrument through
which I committed my life to Christ. It is the single most important
thing that has ever or will ever happen to me."

But for over two hours, until nearly midnight, House conservatives
confronted Dobson about his indiscriminate attacks on the Republican
Party, asking credit for achievements he had ignored. At one point
the wife of a congressman, in tears, explained how Dobson's
broadside had hurt their family, inviting harsh questions from
friends. An emotional Dobson, according to one witness, responded,
"I'm so sorry I hurt you."

Sobered, Dobson canceled planned meetings with the New York Times
and the Washington Post, where he would have laid out his threat
to leave. But in the next two weeks, he sent lengthy, public letters
renewing the threat, which hangs in the air like distant thunder at
the Republican picnic.

This conflict dramatizes a growing gap between grass-roots
conservatism and governing conservatism, between the raised
expectations of activists and the weary realism of legislators.
It reveals a party that may be crumbling, not at its periphery
but at its center, among its most loyal supporters. And it may
be signaling a major shift in the attitudes of Christian
conservatives toward politics."

[Too] bad the divorce never became final.. Your loss, I suppose..

Dobson went to the Capitol building, Dobson went to the Republicans.
That is a far cry from "summoning" the leaders of the GOP.

Look at the date, Hartung

I said the meeting in which Dobson called the GOP
leadership on the carpet was in 1994---just prior to
the Upcoming 1995 appropriations bills coming up.

The article I found said 1998, as does your post above.

That was my post, David.. Do you read for comprehension,
or did you simply skim for the details that suited your
beliefs?

Dobson demanded, and got, his "3 pt agenda" placed on
all those appropriations bills

So?

So, doesn't that violate the separation of church and state?

It works both ways, and as you've observed, the mixing of
'politics' and 'religion' has never been a 'good thing'..

That was the year that clinton summarily rejected
(vetoed) those bills which led to the Government
Shutdown. The American people sided with Clinton.

Clinton was in the wrong

That would be your own opinion. History reflects a
different picture, free from your religious hypocrisy..

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