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Old November 28th 08, 05:44 PM posted to rec.radio.shortwave,alt.religion.christian,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans
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You're even blindly assuming that these 'religious' figures
haven't been trying to build themselves 'empires' that have
attempted to force the Republican party candidates to accept
some of Dobson, Robertson, et al's religious agenda..

In truth, I am absolutely convinced that Robertson and Falwell
would like to build a religious empire, with them in charge.

And so, you think that they haven't? How did you conclude that?

Perhaps I should have been more explicit.


That would be refreshing, in your case specifically..

I believe that these men, and others like them would like to return
to the days when the temporal government was subservient to the Church,
and they would like to be the one in charge of the Church.


And I repeat, why do you think that they haven't already
been trying, as a concerted effort of many decades, to do
just exactly that?

Don't get me wrong, as I am glad to hear that you do not
support a theocratic fascist government, but you do seem
to be quite the apologist for such taking place now..

In Dobson's case, I am a little more uncertain.

Henh! Heisenberg didn't come into play here, right?

If you're going to quibble those facts, then you're not only
being dishonest with me, you're being dishonest with yourself..

The original claim was not that these men are building empires,
but that the Republicans had the corner on Christianity,

Ask yourself this.. How many non-christians are involved
in the Republican party? Are they a majority, or a minority..

--Get back to me when you can quibble that..

From what I have seen, non-Christians are a majority of both parties.


That presupposes that the so-called "christians" involved in both the
GOP and 'evangelical' churches aren't really "christians", correct?


I gave you a response based upon my own observation


Somehow, your 'observations' are not of an objective observer,
at least in my experiences, David. Having experienced the
results of 'religious politics' here in Oklahoma, I have a
little more than most to say about that, too..

Here is an article which goes into the subject in some detail:

http://tinyurl.com/6ktvtk


An evangelical press association member, eh?

--As such, I do not trust their statistics. or numbers..
 
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