On Dec 12, 10:12*pm, RHF wrote:
On Dec 12, 7:01*pm, SC Dxing wrote: It is still used but it's no longer a requirement to get a HAM
license. If you flip inbetween the broadcast bands, you're find some.
Having SSB on your radio will make the morse a lot more copyable.

The one advantage morse code still has over voice is that you can
understand morse on a weak signal when voice or data won't come in
well. Morse also takes up less bandwidth than voice and less power to
transmit over an equal distance.

- A lot of the morse you will hear now is computer generated,
- not so much hand keyers anymore, although I'm sure there
- are some out there.

Computer {Keyboard} Generated and Computer and
most likely Generated {On-the-Screen} Decoded too.
*.

I remember when I learned morse code back in 83, the hand senders
would have their own accents from countries just like the language. I
haven't heard a hand sender yet with my revival in shortwave. Just
bots or computerized generated morse. I sure am rusty with morse
though..... I seem to have to think about characters before typing
them which really slows me down. I'll have to get some software to
help me get efficient again.

In message
, SC
Dxing writes
On Dec 12, 10:12*pm, RHF wrote:
On Dec 12, 7:01*pm, SC Dxing wrote: It is still
used but it's no longer a requirement to get a HAM
license. If you flip inbetween the broadcast bands, you're find some.
Having SSB on your radio will make the morse a lot more copyable.

The one advantage morse code still has over voice is that you can
understand morse on a weak signal when voice or data won't come in
well. Morse also takes up less bandwidth than voice and less power to
transmit over an equal distance.

- A lot of the morse you will hear now is computer generated,
- not so much hand keyers anymore, although I'm sure there
- are some out there.

Computer {Keyboard} Generated and Computer and
most likely Generated {On-the-Screen} Decoded too.
*.

I remember when I learned morse code back in 83, the hand senders
would have their own accents from countries just like the language. I
haven't heard a hand sender yet with my revival in shortwave. Just
bots or computerized generated morse. I sure am rusty with morse
though..... I seem to have to think about characters before typing
them which really slows me down. I'll have to get some software to
help me get efficient again.

I've held my radio amateur licence since 1960, but have never been very
good at morse. However, now I've got a bit more time on my hands, I am
trying to brush up my skill and, in my spare moments, have been doing
some 'SWLing' on the morse parts of the amateur bands. I recently-bought
Eton E5 receiver is handy for use in places like the toilet, where
listening to morse makes a change from reading a book or the daily
paper.

I can confirm that, although many countries no longer require morse in
order to get the licence, there certainly is a heck of a lot of morse
still used by radio amateurs. It's certainly NOT a dying art. For
beginners, the main problem is finding transmissions which are slow
enough to be understood. Fortunately, there are dozens of excellent
freeware computer programs which generate morse for you to practise
with, and allow you work up your speed.

There are also a lot of morse decoder programs which take your receiver
audio output and display it as text. Even if you are getting quite good
at morse, and are pretty good at decoding it 'in your head', the display
of the text 'subtitles' provides an instant indication of how you are
doing. Some programs indicate the speed of the received morse, and I was
surprised that I now seem to be able to copy quite a lot at up to 20wpm.
--
Ian

On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:44:00 -0800 (PST), SC Dxing
wrote:

On Dec 12, 10:12*pm, RHF wrote:
On Dec 12, 7:01*pm, SC Dxing wrote: It is still used but it's no longer a requirement to get a HAM
license. If you flip inbetween the broadcast bands, you're find some.
Having SSB on your radio will make the morse a lot more copyable.

The one advantage morse code still has over voice is that you can
understand morse on a weak signal when voice or data won't come in
well. Morse also takes up less bandwidth than voice and less power to
transmit over an equal distance.

- A lot of the morse you will hear now is computer generated,
- not so much hand keyers anymore, although I'm sure there
- are some out there.

Computer {Keyboard} Generated and Computer and
most likely Generated {On-the-Screen} Decoded too.
*.

I remember when I learned morse code back in 83, the hand senders
would have their own accents from countries just like the language. I
haven't heard a hand sender yet with my revival in shortwave. Just
bots or computerized generated morse. I sure am rusty with morse
though..... I seem to have to think about characters before typing
them which really slows me down. I'll have to get some software to
help me get efficient again.

Try CPWin http://www.xertech.net/Projects/CPwin.html

W1AW sends codes practice lessons on week days..
Several times a day and many bands..
also code bulletins..
check www.arrl.org for the frequencies and times ..
or check QST

--
Thanks & 73
Hank WD5JFR

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 21:44:00 -0800 (PST), SC Dxing
wrote:

On Dec 12, 10:12 pm, RHF wrote:
On Dec 12, 7:01 pm, SC Dxing wrote: It is still
used but it's no longer a requirement to get a HAM
license. If you flip inbetween the broadcast bands, you're find
some.
Having SSB on your radio will make the morse a lot more copyable.

The one advantage morse code still has over voice is that you can
understand morse on a weak signal when voice or data won't come in
well. Morse also takes up less bandwidth than voice and less power
to
transmit over an equal distance.

- A lot of the morse you will hear now is computer generated,
- not so much hand keyers anymore, although I'm sure there
- are some out there.

Computer {Keyboard} Generated and Computer and
most likely Generated {On-the-Screen} Decoded too.
.

I remember when I learned morse code back in 83, the hand senders
would have their own accents from countries just like the language. I
haven't heard a hand sender yet with my revival in shortwave. Just
bots or computerized generated morse. I sure am rusty with morse
though..... I seem to have to think about characters before typing
them which really slows me down. I'll have to get some software to
help me get efficient again.

Try CPWin http://www.xertech.net/Projects/CPwin.html

Ian Jackson wrote:

There are also a lot of morse decoder programs which take your receiver
audio output and display it as text. Even if you are getting quite good
at morse, and are pretty good at decoding it 'in your head', the display
of the text 'subtitles' provides an instant indication of how you are
doing. Some programs indicate the speed of the received morse, and I was
surprised that I now seem to be able to copy quite a lot at up to 20wpm.

I don't think there's a radio made that doesn't call it "CW". The VBR
binary system invented by S. F. B. Morse for electric clicker DC wire
communications might resemble CW at first glance, but modern CW is quite
different.

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...
In message
, RHF
writes
On Dec 13, 7:02 am, Dave wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote:
There are also a lot of morse decoder programs which take your
receiver
audio output and display it as text. Even if you are getting quite
good
at morse, and are pretty good at decoding it 'in your head', the
display
of the text 'subtitles' provides an instant indication of how you are
doing. Some programs indicate the speed of the received morse, and I
was
surprised that I now seem to be able to copy quite a lot at up to
20wpm.

I don't think there's a radio made that doesn't call it "CW". The VBR
binary system invented by S. F. B. Morse for electric clicker DC wire
communications might resemble CW at first glance, but modern CW is quite
different.

Well, my Etón E5 certainly doesn't say 'CW'. It says 'SSB'. Does this mean
I can't receive CW? Just what HAVE I been listening to while sitting on
the toilet?

Can you describe the sounds for us?


CW is the "Mode" of Transmission {Signal}
* CW = Continuous Wave

Morse Code is the "Method" of Transmission {Information}
* Structured Organized Bits of Continuous Wave
.
Oh dear. My old Trio TS520s DOES say CW. Pity. I was hoping to use it for
SSB and morse. What AM I going to do?
--
Ian

In message , Geoffrey S.
Mendelson writes
Ian Jackson wrote:
Well, my Etón E5 certainly doesn't say 'CW'. It says 'SSB'. Does this
mean I can't receive CW? Just what HAVE I been listening to while
sitting on the toilet?

I don't even want to think about it. :-) It says SSB because it sounds better
than BFO. BFO is part of the radio, SSB is a mode.


Oh dear. My old Trio TS520s DOES say CW. Pity. I was hoping to use it
for SSB and morse. What AM I going to do?

My 520se had USB/LSB and CW. In any case it does not say Morse, because that
would be like saying French or Japanese for the voice modes. The radio does
not differentiate between codes used for CW transmission. It just makes a
beeping noise when it receives a carrier.

If it receives International Morse Code, or 1 for a, 2 for b, 3 for c, etc
code, it still does exactly the same thing.

I forgot to mention that, in the LSB or USB positions, my TS520s also
seems to work on SSTV (and morse). It just goes to show that you
shouldn't believe what is written on the tin/packet. [And I haven't yet
got around to using it on packet.]
--
Ian

In message , ":-:Ghost Chip:-:"
writes

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
...


Well, my Etón E5 certainly doesn't say 'CW'. It says 'SSB'. Does this mean
I can't receive CW? Just what HAVE I been listening to while sitting on
the toilet?

Can you describe the sounds for us?

Difficult....
Maybe it would be easier to record it, and stick an MPG on a suitable
website. I'll see what I can do.
--
Ian

On Dec 13, 12:28*pm, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message
, RHF
writesOn Dec 13, 7:02*am, Dave wrote:
Ian Jackson wrote:
There are also a lot of morse decoder programs which take your receiver
audio output and display it as text. Even if you are getting quite good
at morse, and are pretty good at decoding it 'in your head', the display
of the text 'subtitles' provides an instant indication of how you are
doing. Some programs indicate the speed of the received morse, and I was
surprised that I now seem to be able to copy quite a lot at up to 20wpm.

I don't think there's a radio made that doesn't call it "CW". *The VBR
binary system invented by S. F. B. Morse for electric clicker DC wire
communications might resemble CW at first glance, but modern CW is quite
different.

What About ? Listening to Morse Code with a 'portable'
AM/FM Shortwave Radio using the SSB Feature ?

- Well, my Etón E5 certainly doesn't say 'CW'.
- It says 'SSB'.

For 'portable' AM/FM Shortwave Radios that have
SSB as a listening feature : Most likely the SSB
Setting switches-in a Narrower Filter say 2.8 kHz
versus the AM Filter of 5~6 kHz.

So you can hear the CW Morse Code Signal more
distinctly and clearer in the SSB Mode. But -if-
you have a tightly packed Band with many CW
Transmissions crammed into your 2.8 kHz SSB
Filter's Bandwidth you will be hearing two, three
or more CW Transmission all at once. That is
why Shortwave (HF) Radio Listeners who like to
listen-in-on Amateur {Ham} Radio Operators CW
Transmissions usually get a Communications
Receiver with CW Filter or Spots for Extra/Optional
CW Filters for Listening to CW Transmissions
* Some common CW Filter Sizes [kHz] are :
500 Hz . . . 375 Hz . . . 250 Hz which are much
Narrower than the 2.8 kHz of most portable
AM/FM Shortwave Radios.

- Does this mean I can't receive CW?

No. -but- You may not be able to narrow-in on a specific
CW signal in a crowded band with a Radio-Receiver that
has Narrower CW Filters like 500 Hz.

- Just what HAVE I been listening to while sitting on the toilet?

Noise coming out of the Radio ;-}

- - CW is the "Mode" of Transmission {Signal}
- - * CW = Continuous Wave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_Wave

- - Morse Code is the "Method" of Transmission {Information}
- - * Structured Organized Bits of Continuous Wave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morse_Code

Oh dear. My old Trio TS520s DOES say CW. Pity. I was hoping to use it
for SSB and morse. What AM I going to do?
--
Ian

Ian Jackson wrote:

I forgot to mention that, in the LSB or USB positions, my TS520s also
seems to work on SSTV (and morse).

As well it should. In the LSB and USB positions, the BFO is turned on.
SSTV is essentially sideband (requiring the BFO), in that the video SSTV
signal is plugged into the mic jack...and naturally, CW (morse) requires
use of the BFO --so what you describe is not surprising.