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Old December 15th 08, 03:10 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,alt.radio.family,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.politics
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Default here's kink to hoa progibiting the actual transmissions of cb and hamsignals, not just antennas

Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.

This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.

Now again, what good does any federal or state law allowing cb and ham
antennas do when the CC&Rs
very clearly say that the actual transmitting of cb and ham radio
signals are against the rules?

The reason given is it causes interference.

However, since you don't even have to be on hoa property to cause
interferece with a cb or ham radio,
it would seem that this hoa would also frown upon mobile operation
from off the hoa propetrty if the signal
can be recieved on hoa property.

Even though I didn't notice any rules at this one prohibiting mobile
operation.

However, there have already been other hoas going after mobile
operators operating off of hoa property even
though the hoa rules didn't mention any bans on mobile operating.

And from what I heard, usually upheld by the courts.


http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...k&c d=7&gl=us

And several people have already said that the FCC has stated several
times that the FCC doesn't have any
authority over it "since it's a volunatary contract" and is therefoe
unable to do anything about it.

So basically, the FCC has admitted and stated that HOA rules regarding
radio regulation outweigh and
overrule FCC rules regarding radio regulations.






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Old December 15th 08, 01:16 PM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,alt.radio.family,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.politics
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Default here's kink to hoa progibiting the actual transmissions of cb andham signals, not just antennas

On Dec 14, 10:10*pm, radioguy wrote:
Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.

This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
*just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.

Now again, what good does any federal or state law allowing cb and ham
antennas do when the CC&Rs
very clearly say that the actual transmitting of cb and ham radio
signals are against the rules?

The reason given is it causes interference.

However, since you don't even have to be on hoa property to cause
interferece with a cb or ham radio,
it would seem that this hoa would also frown upon mobile operation
from off the hoa propetrty if the signal
can be recieved on hoa property.

Even though I didn't notice any rules at this one prohibiting mobile
operation.

However, there have already been other hoas going after mobile
operators operating off of hoa property even
though the hoa rules didn't mention any bans on mobile operating.

And from what I heard, usually upheld by the courts.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lveroakshoa.ne....

And several people have already said that the FCC has stated several
times that the FCC doesn't have any
authority over it "since it's a volunatary contract" and is therefoe
unable to do anything about it.

So basically, the FCC has admitted and stated that HOA rules regarding
radio regulation outweigh and
overrule FCC rules regarding radio regulations.


don't move there, it is quite simple.
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Default here's kink to hoa progibiting the actual transmissions of cb andham signals, not just antennas

On Dec 15, 8:16*am, wrote:
On Dec 14, 10:10*pm, radioguy wrote:





Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.


This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
*just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.


Now again, what good does any federal or state law allowing cb and ham
antennas do when the CC&Rs
very clearly say that the actual transmitting of cb and ham radio
signals are against the rules?


The reason given is it causes interference.


However, since you don't even have to be on hoa property to cause
interferece with a cb or ham radio,
it would seem that this hoa would also frown upon mobile operation
from off the hoa propetrty if the signal
can be recieved on hoa property.


Even though I didn't notice any rules at this one prohibiting mobile
operation.


However, there have already been other hoas going after mobile
operators operating off of hoa property even
though the hoa rules didn't mention any bans on mobile operating.


And from what I heard, usually upheld by the courts.


http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lveroakshoa.ne....


And several people have already said that the FCC has stated several
times that the FCC doesn't have any
authority over it "since it's a volunatary contract" and is therefoe
unable to do anything about it.


So basically, the FCC has admitted and stated that HOA rules regarding
radio regulation outweigh and
overrule FCC rules regarding radio regulations.


don't move there, it is quite simple.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No it isn't that simple.

2. I read about another ham in a non hoa non CC&R place who was fined
and sued by a HOA in a completelydifferent city because they didn't
like his antenna tower. And it was against the hoa's rules.

He didn't even live in the same city the hoa was in.

His property wasn't even anywhere near that hoa.

His property was not psart of any hoa or CC&Rs.

The hoa residents didn't like seeing it when they drove through HIS
city on the way to and from their work

3. I read about another ham who specifically moved to a non hoa non
CC&R place and his place was taken over by HOAs and CC&Rs by land
developers
making CC&Rs that attached his property to HOA CC&Rs when there had
been absolutely none before.

He took them to court and lost!!!! The hoa won!!!!

1. I myself lived in a non HOA non CC&R place which had hoa CC&Rs
imposed on it after a new landlord took over. It turned out he was a
land developer building expensive townhouses who had somehow taken
over by eminent domain even though only governments are supposed to be
able to do that.

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Old December 16th 08, 01:17 AM posted to rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,alt.radio.family,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.politics
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Default here's kink to hoa progibiting the actual transmissions of cb andham signals, not just antennas

On Dec 14, 7:10*pm, radioguy wrote:
Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.

This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
*just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.

Now again, what good does any federal or state law allowing cb and ham
antennas do when the CC&Rs
very clearly say that the actual transmitting of cb and ham radio
signals are against the rules?

The reason given is it causes interference.

However, since you don't even have to be on hoa property to cause
interferece with a cb or ham radio,
it would seem that this hoa would also frown upon mobile operation
from off the hoa propetrty if the signal
can be recieved on hoa property.

Even though I didn't notice any rules at this one prohibiting mobile
operation.

However, there have already been other hoas going after mobile
operators operating off of hoa property even
though the hoa rules didn't mention any bans on mobile operating.

And from what I heard, usually upheld by the courts.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lveroakshoa.ne....

And several people have already said that the FCC has stated several
times that the FCC doesn't have any
authority over it "since it's a volunatary contract" and is therefoe
unable to do anything about it.

So basically, the FCC has admitted and stated that HOA rules regarding
radio regulation outweigh and
overrule FCC rules regarding radio regulations.


Federal law trumps state law which trumps local law. You can write any
old BS law you want, but that doesn't make it legal. It simply means
you have to test it in court. For instance, the feds say you can have
a 1 meter dish CONUS. Nobody can stop you.

The problem is the HOA puts liens on property, so you really need
gonads to take on these jerks.

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