Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.

This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.

Now again, what good does any federal or state law allowing cb and ham
antennas do when the CC&Rs
very clearly say that the actual transmitting of cb and ham radio
signals are against the rules?

The reason given is it causes interference.

However, since you don't even have to be on hoa property to cause
interferece with a cb or ham radio,
it would seem that this hoa would also frown upon mobile operation
from off the hoa propetrty if the signal
can be recieved on hoa property.

Even though I didn't notice any rules at this one prohibiting mobile
operation.

However, there have already been other hoas going after mobile
operators operating off of hoa property even
though the hoa rules didn't mention any bans on mobile operating.

And from what I heard, usually upheld by the courts.


http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...k&c d=7&gl=us

And several people have already said that the FCC has stated several
times that the FCC doesn't have any
authority over it "since it's a volunatary contract" and is therefoe
unable to do anything about it.

So basically, the FCC has admitted and stated that HOA rules regarding
radio regulation outweigh and
overrule FCC rules regarding radio regulations.

On Dec 14, 10:10*pm, radioguy wrote:
Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.

This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
*just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.

Now again, what good does any federal or state law allowing cb and ham
antennas do when the CC&Rs
very clearly say that the actual transmitting of cb and ham radio
signals are against the rules?

The reason given is it causes interference.

However, since you don't even have to be on hoa property to cause
interferece with a cb or ham radio,
it would seem that this hoa would also frown upon mobile operation
from off the hoa propetrty if the signal
can be recieved on hoa property.

Even though I didn't notice any rules at this one prohibiting mobile
operation.

However, there have already been other hoas going after mobile
operators operating off of hoa property even
though the hoa rules didn't mention any bans on mobile operating.

And from what I heard, usually upheld by the courts.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lveroakshoa.ne....

And several people have already said that the FCC has stated several
times that the FCC doesn't have any
authority over it "since it's a volunatary contract" and is therefoe
unable to do anything about it.

So basically, the FCC has admitted and stated that HOA rules regarding
radio regulation outweigh and
overrule FCC rules regarding radio regulations.

don't move there, it is quite simple.

On Dec 14, 7:10*pm, radioguy wrote:
Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.

This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
*just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.

Now again, what good does any federal or state law allowing cb and ham
antennas do when the CC&Rs
very clearly say that the actual transmitting of cb and ham radio
signals are against the rules?

The reason given is it causes interference.

However, since you don't even have to be on hoa property to cause
interferece with a cb or ham radio,
it would seem that this hoa would also frown upon mobile operation
from off the hoa propetrty if the signal
can be recieved on hoa property.

Even though I didn't notice any rules at this one prohibiting mobile
operation.

However, there have already been other hoas going after mobile
operators operating off of hoa property even
though the hoa rules didn't mention any bans on mobile operating.

And from what I heard, usually upheld by the courts.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lveroakshoa.ne....

And several people have already said that the FCC has stated several
times that the FCC doesn't have any
authority over it "since it's a volunatary contract" and is therefoe
unable to do anything about it.

So basically, the FCC has admitted and stated that HOA rules regarding
radio regulation outweigh and
overrule FCC rules regarding radio regulations.

Federal law trumps state law which trumps local law. You can write any
old BS law you want, but that doesn't make it legal. It simply means
you have to test it in court. For instance, the feds say you can have
a 1 meter dish CONUS. Nobody can stop you.

The problem is the HOA puts liens on property, so you really need
gonads to take on these jerks.

"radioguy" wrote in message
...
Now you do know, don't you, that NOT living in a HOA does NOT stop
HOAS from going after you for violating their HOA rules and that
living in a
place without HOAs withoutCC&Rs without anything stating that HOAs can
take over later does NOT stop HOAS or CC&Rs from taking over your
non-HOA non CC&R home and property. The latter has actually happened
to me. So DON'T tell me it's as simple as just not moving into a
place
without a HOA or CC&Rs. It's NOT. I now KNOW better. I found out the
hard way. Which cost me a lot of money that I couldn't realy afford.

They would do so over their dead bodies to any property of mine (were I to
own any). Talk about your socialism, CC&R's are the very essence thereof.
Whatever happened to private property in this country? I don't recall that
any law was changed to say that my neighbors own any part of my home (nor I
of my neighbors.) When the neighbors are paying your mortgage, then, and
ONLY then, should they have a say in what you do on your own property.
PERIOD.

On Dec 16, 5:31*pm, Wouff Hong wrote:
BDK wrote :



CB is what got me into ham radio.

That, and the elimination of the code test. Ten-Four good Buddy?

CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker!

Wouff

I have heard hams on my local repeaters saying "ten four".

But guess what?

A lot of those using it as such on the ham bands were hams BEFORE CB
was ever even thought of as a radio service!!!!

They were hams BEFORE CB even existed as a radio service!!!!!

On Dec 16, 8:16*pm, BDK wrote:
In article ,
says...

BDK wrote in
:

CB is what got me into ham radio.

That, and the elimination of the code test. Ten-Four good Buddy?

LOL, I took the damn code in 1973. What an annoying mode.



CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker!

RAYYYYYYYDDDDDIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!



okay, here's one the pro-coders either never thought of or did think
of and just didn't want to mention it or post it at all.

Which I know is true in at least some people's cases.

How many of the no-code ham radio technicians used to practice cw/
morse code on the old 49 mhz radios when they were kids?

Or on the older 27 mhz radios when they were kids?

Just because they are a no-code ham radio technician today doesn't
necessarilly mean that they never ever used morse code in their entire
lives.

RHF wrote:
On Dec 16, 5:25 am, Dave wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:10 pm, radioguy wrote:
Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.
This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.

- You can't lump CB and the Amateur service in the same issue.
- CBers are clowns and should be banned, period.

Dave - Spoken like the 'Elitist' you are ~ RHF
.

Excuse me for having standards. What's the opposite of "elite"?

In article 3cf36e52-3c39-4f2c-86ab-9109b6311899
@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com, says...
On Dec 16, 8:16*pm, BDK wrote:
In article ,
says...

BDK wrote in
:

CB is what got me into ham radio.

That, and the elimination of the code test. Ten-Four good Buddy?

LOL, I took the damn code in 1973. What an annoying mode.



CQ Breaker, CQ Breaker!

RAYYYYYYYDDDDDIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!



okay, here's one the pro-coders either never thought of or did think
of and just didn't want to mention it or post it at all.

Which I know is true in at least some people's cases.

How many of the no-code ham radio technicians used to practice cw/
morse code on the old 49 mhz radios when they were kids?

Or on the older 27 mhz radios when they were kids?

Just because they are a no-code ham radio technician today doesn't
necessarilly mean that they never ever used morse code in their entire
lives.


Yeah, we used to do it on the old walkie talkies we had. Channel 14, of
course.
--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

"none" ""dave\"@(none)" wrote in message
m...
RHF wrote:
On Dec 16, 5:25 am, Dave wrote:
wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:10 pm, radioguy wrote:
Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.
This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.

- You can't lump CB and the Amateur service in the same issue.
- CBers are clowns and should be banned, period.

Dave - Spoken like the 'Elitist' you are ~ RHF
.

Excuse me for having standards. What's the opposite of "elite"?

1 asingular or plural in construction : the choice part : cream the elite
of the entertainment world bsingular or plural in construction : the best
of a class superachievers who dominate the computer elite - Marilyn Chase
csingular or plural in construction : the socially superior part of society
how the elite live - A P World how the French-speaking elite.was
changing - Economist d: a group of persons who by virtue of position or
education exercise much power or influence members of the ruling elite
the intellectual elites of the country e: a member of such an
elite -usually used in plural the elites ., pursuing their studies in
Europe - Robert Wernick

Near Antonyms commoners, masses, rank and file

I seem to remember when being among the best was something to strive for,
not something to deride....

On Dec 15, 8:16*am, wrote:
On Dec 14, 10:10*pm, radioguy wrote:





Since peple didn't believe me, click on this link and take a look at,
I think number 7 and 8.

This is just one of the many hoas that now prohibit the actual
transmissions of cb radio and ham radio, besides
*just prohibiting the cb and ham antennas.

Now again, what good does any federal or state law allowing cb and ham
antennas do when the CC&Rs
very clearly say that the actual transmitting of cb and ham radio
signals are against the rules?

The reason given is it causes interference.

However, since you don't even have to be on hoa property to cause
interferece with a cb or ham radio,
it would seem that this hoa would also frown upon mobile operation
from off the hoa propetrty if the signal
can be recieved on hoa property.

Even though I didn't notice any rules at this one prohibiting mobile
operation.

However, there have already been other hoas going after mobile
operators operating off of hoa property even
though the hoa rules didn't mention any bans on mobile operating.

And from what I heard, usually upheld by the courts.

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...lveroakshoa.ne....

And several people have already said that the FCC has stated several
times that the FCC doesn't have any
authority over it "since it's a volunatary contract" and is therefoe
unable to do anything about it.

So basically, the FCC has admitted and stated that HOA rules regarding
radio regulation outweigh and
overrule FCC rules regarding radio regulations.

don't move there, it is quite simple.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

No it isn't that simple.

2. I read about another ham in a non hoa non CC&R place who was fined
and sued by a HOA in a completelydifferent city because they didn't
like his antenna tower. And it was against the hoa's rules.

He didn't even live in the same city the hoa was in.

His property wasn't even anywhere near that hoa.

His property was not psart of any hoa or CC&Rs.

The hoa residents didn't like seeing it when they drove through HIS
city on the way to and from their work

3. I read about another ham who specifically moved to a non hoa non
CC&R place and his place was taken over by HOAs and CC&Rs by land
developers
making CC&Rs that attached his property to HOA CC&Rs when there had
been absolutely none before.

He took them to court and lost!!!! The hoa won!!!!

1. I myself lived in a non HOA non CC&R place which had hoa CC&Rs
imposed on it after a new landlord took over. It turned out he was a
land developer building expensive townhouses who had somehow taken
over by eminent domain even though only governments are supposed to be
able to do that.