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RHF wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:16 pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
For One and All,
Q # 1 - Shortwave Radio RFI Noise ?
Which type of TV Display produces the least RFI Noise
that can be heard on a Shortwave Radio 3~30 MHz :
[ ] LCD TV Displays 20~42 Inches
[ ] Plasma TV Displays 32 Inches plus

[X] DLP


Digital Light Processing (DLP) and How It Works
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/1background.html
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/2dlpworking.html

DLP TV -v- LCD TV -by- Phil Conner
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html

DLP TV -v- Plasma TV -by- Phil Conner
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/plasmatelevision.html

LCD TV -v- Plasma TV -by- Phil Connor
http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv-plasmavslcd.shtml

Dave,

This is going to be an On the Wall in the Kitchen 32"
HDTV; that will be on the other end of the House from
the Radio Shack. -so- DLP is not the answer.

1 - All I am really interested in is there good or bad
points to LCD and/or Plasma HDTV Technology -wrt-
RFI in the range of 3~30 MHz and the ability to Listen
to my Shortwave Radios.

Anyone have any specific horror stories about LCD TVs
or Plasma TVs trashing their ability to Listen to the HF
Bands with their Shortwave Radios.

2 - We are at 4000 Feet here in Twain Harte, CA
so do Plasma TVs fail early at higher elevations.
-or- is that just a rumor ?
-or- has that problem been fixed ?

informed opinions please ~ RHF
.

Plasma makes more RFI, is prone to burning-in, and wastes lots of energy.
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On Dec 28, 5:26*am, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
On Dec 27, 4:16 pm, Dave wrote:
RHF wrote:
For One and All,
Q # 1 - Shortwave Radio RFI Noise ?
Which type of TV Display produces the least RFI Noise
that can be heard on a Shortwave Radio 3~30 MHz :
[ ] LCD TV Displays 20~42 Inches
[ ] Plasma TV Displays 32 Inches plus
* *[X] DLP


Digital Light Processing (DLP) and How It Works
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/1background.html
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/2dlpworking.html


DLP TV -v- LCD TV -by- Phil Conner
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/dlptelevision.html


DLP TV -v- Plasma TV -by- Phil Conner
http://www.dlptvreview.com/dlptv/plasmatelevision.html


LCD TV -v- Plasma TV -by- Phil Connor
http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv-plasmavslcd.shtml


Dave,


This is going to be an On the Wall in the Kitchen 32"
HDTV; that will be on the other end of the House from
the Radio Shack. -so- DLP is not the answer.


1 - All I am really interested in is there good or bad
points to LCD and/or Plasma HDTV Technology -wrt-
RFI in the range of 3~30 MHz and the ability to Listen
to my Shortwave Radios.


Anyone have any specific horror stories about LCD TVs
or Plasma TVs trashing their ability to Listen to the HF
Bands with their Shortwave Radios.


2 - We are at 4000 Feet here in Twain Harte, CA
so do Plasma TVs fail early at higher elevations.
-or- is that just a rumor ?
-or- has that problem been fixed ?


informed opinions please ~ RHF
*.


Plasma makes more RFI, is prone to burning-in, and wastes lots of energy.


Dave those are three valid points.

Is there any other 'hits' on Plasma HDTV ?

~ RHF
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PX stores.When I was at Scott Air Force Base, Illinois in 1963, I sort
of liked that woman whom worked at the SAF Base BX store.When I was at
Fort Hood,Texas in 1965, every day when we got off work (22nd Chemical
Company) I used to get in my green 1963 VW beetle car and stop off at
the Fort Hood PX store and buy a big red apple to munch on, on my way to
the mess hall.
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In article ,
Bob Campbell wrote:
Walk into any dept store/Walmart/Best Buy/whatever in the U.S. How many
radios are for sale these days? How many were for sale 20 years ago? 40?
60? There is a definite downward trend.


That's because the big box stores are operating under different principles
than what anyone over 35 would expect. It's not longer "find out what
the customer wants", but "stock what you make the most money selling
and intimidate the customer into buying it". (I think the buzzword is
"Directed Marketing"). The idea is that the store's buyers and the
importer/manufacturer's marketing department know the customer better
than the customer does, and can manipulate them into buying something
that isn't really what they want, because it's fashionable, (and there
isn't an alternative available there anyway).

I also suspect that part of the higher profitability is that the cell
phone providers, pay for play music down-loaders, and satellite Radio and
TV companies provide "sales incentives" (derived from their subscription
fees) to the big box chains which causes them to deemphasize any equipment
that gets free broadcasts.

So radios have been exiled to lower end discount stores, and the
drugstore chains (that don't have a conflict of interest between
the subscription based services and the customer).

Mark Zenier
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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4957fb16.3211734@chupacabra...
Brenda Ann wrote:
IIRC, ALL LCD panels are currently
being manufactured in Korea (LG/Samsung))


I think my Vizio 32LCD HDTV has a panel made in Taiwan,
although such information is hard to find or confirm.

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42


It's possible that the Korean companies have farmed out manufacturing by
now.. the standard of living here has gone up considerably in the past 20
years, and so it becomes economically advantageous for them to go to
countries with cheaper labor costs. Seems a lot of "Korean" products are now
made in the PROC instead of the ROK..




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Them gals over yonder sure are nasty!
cuhulin

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"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
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So radios have been exiled to lower end discount stores, and the
drugstore chains (that don't have a conflict of interest between
the subscription based services and the customer).


So its not that no one is interested in radio, it is all YAC (yet another
conspiracy)!

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Bob Campbell wrote:
"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
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So radios have been exiled to lower end discount stores, and the
drugstore chains (that don't have a conflict of interest between
the subscription based services and the customer).


So its not that no one is interested in radio, it is all YAC (yet
another conspiracy)!


We're past the point where "conspiracy" has any meaning.
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In article ,
Bob Campbell wrote:
"Mark Zenier" wrote in message
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So radios have been exiled to lower end discount stores, and the
drugstore chains (that don't have a conflict of interest between
the subscription based services and the customer).


So its not that no one is interested in radio, it is all YAC (yet another
conspiracy)!


Hey, if you went to "Buy More" (in the last several years), there's a
quarter of an aisle of boom boxes and other bottom end home audio stuck
in the back, and there's as much space up front for XM and/or Sirius.
And the same thing for satellite TV with a full aisle of display for
DirectTV and/or Dish Network, and you have to ask the sales geek if
they have any ATSC tuners and he shows you the ONE they have that's
$350-$550, and you understand that the digital TV conversion had more
than just technical reasons for going so slow, and the stores had
the same sort of incentives applied to radio, too. (The subscription
services had shareholder's and subscriber's money to boost their
equipment sales, the local broadcasters didn't).

It's as much of a clusterf*** as a conspiracy, too. 1) "What's on the
Radio", and 2) the really crappy quality of the radios that are for sale
doesn't help either.

Mark Zenier
Googleproofaddress(account:mzenier provider:eskimo domain:com)

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