On Dec 24, 5:54*pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

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"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.

A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this
increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains
not quantifiable today.

So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator??

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"HD Interference: Not Just For AM Anymore"

"Radio World Engineering Extra dropped a bomb this month with a very
provocative cover story: 'What Are We Doing to Ourselves, Exactly?'
Written by Doug Vernier, the man who authored the technical
specifications for an ongoing Corporation for Public Broadcasting-
sponsored HD Radio interference analysis, the report is the first of
its kind to document interference between FM-HD stations around the
country. Using anecdotal reportage, some sophisticated contour-
mapping, and presumably 'early data' from the CPB study, Vernier's
article conclusively proves how stations running in hybrid HD/analog
mode can (and do) interfere somewhat significantly with not only
themselves, but their neighbors on the FM dial."

http://diymedia.net/archive/1207.htm#122307

"Editorial: More Than Half Full"

"AM-HD continues to fight uphill. Several manufacturers showed
impressive new transmitter models designed to optimize and maintain HD
performance. Yet the growth of AM-HD stations coming on the air
appears stalled and we hear murmurings about some broadcasters pulling
back on AM-HD or wishing to renegotiate their commitments with
Ibiquity."

http://www.rwonline.com/pages/s.0044/t.13363.html

"Citadel Halts AM Nighttime IBOC Operation Amid Complaints"

"An excerpt from his memo to staff reads: In response to the
lackluster performance, the limited benefit and various reports of
significant interference, Citadel is suspending nighttime AM HD
operations at this time. Please reinstate your previous procedures for
daytime-only HD operation as soon as possible.”

http://www.radioworld.com/pages/s.0121/t.8847.html

Cum again ? LOL!

On Dec 24, 5:54�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Brenda Ann" wrote in message

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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.

A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this
increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains
not quantifiable today.

So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator??

No, not at current levels. But a 10 db increase would cause some issues.- Hide quoted text -

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Edaurdo - you are so full of **** that you make me vomit!

On Dec 24, 5:58�pm, RHF wrote:
On Dec 24, 8:58�am, wrote:





On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote:

On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote:

On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:

"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"

NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.

Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.

The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.

The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?

So what? �TV station revenue is down. �Auto companies revenue is
down. �The whole economy is down. �With businesses going under every
day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. �No
surprise here. �When the economy recovers, so will the advertising
income. �That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be
what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the
economy recovery. �So the stats for November are really worthless as
an argument against radio or HD radio.

The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on
an already stressed industry. �Radio is just trying to keep its head
above water. �In that sense 20% IS significant. �Isn't that right
Eduardo.

I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out.
I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. �I
guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in
danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. �That's about as
selfish as one can get. �

- And hoping that the radio industry will fold
- shows the disgusting person you really are.

Right-On !

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Right-On ! You sure showed me! LOL!

On Dec 24, 9:08*am, PocketRadio wrote:
On Dec 24, 11:58 am, wrote:



On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote:

On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote:

On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:

"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"

NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.

Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.

The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.

The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?

So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is
down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every
day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No
surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising
income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be
what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the
economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as
an argument against radio or HD radio.

The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on
an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head
above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right
Eduardo.

I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out.
I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. I
guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in
danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. That's about as
selfish as one can get. And hoping that the radio industry will fold
shows the disgusting person you really are.

GET A LIFE!- Hide quoted text -

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- LMFAO!

pOCKETrADIO - We {The USA} are legally in a Recession
-and- May soon be going in to a Depression in the next year
-and- You are slamming the Commercial Radio Advertising
Business for bad economic numbers . . .
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...1af1a72b004e2a

Real People *Your Fellow US Citizens* Are Losing Their
Jobs, Homes, Business; and You Rejoice ! ! !

it boggles the mind ~ RHF

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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"PocketRadio" wrote in message
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Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.

A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this
increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains
not quantifiable today.

So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator??

No, not at current levels. But a 10 db increase would cause some issues.

It causes me listening issues right now and I'm not alone on this.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

On Dec 24, 4:02*am, PocketRadio wrote:
On Dec 24, 5:15 am, RHF wrote:



PocketRadio,

So you relish the fact that 20% of Americans may be
Out of Work in the Next Year due to a Recession;
and a possible Depression; as long as it is bad news
for Free Over-the-Air Radio; IBOC and HD-Radio

it boggles the mind ~ RHF
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On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:

"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"

NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.

Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.

The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.

The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?- Hide quoted text -

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- Yup, as long as it is bad news for HD Radio
- destroy terrestrial radio, in order to destroy HD.

PocketRadio -proclaims- Destroy Terrestrial Radio :
In Order To Destroy HD Radio

(OT) : PONG - PocketRadio You Put The "F" in LM_AO !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e9096d25c86eac