On Dec 24, 5:15�am, RHF wrote:
PocketRadio,

So you relish the fact that 20% of Americans may be
Out of Work in the Next Year due to a Recession;
and a possible Depression; as long as it is bad news
for Free Over-the-Air Radio; IBOC and HD-Radio

it boggles the mind ~ RHF
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On Dec 23, 6:33�pm, PocketRadio wrote:



"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"

NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.

Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.

The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.

The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?- Hide quoted text -

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Yup, as long as it is bad news for HD Radio - destroy terrestrial
radio, in order to destroy HD.

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...

Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.

A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this
increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not
quantifiable today.

On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote:
On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote:



On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:

"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"

NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.

Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.

The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.

The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?

So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is
down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every
day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No
surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising
income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be
what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the
economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as
an argument against radio or HD radio.

The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on
an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head
above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right
Eduardo.

I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out.
I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. I
guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in
danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. That's about as
selfish as one can get. And hoping that the radio industry will fold
shows the disgusting person you really are.

GET A LIFE!

On Dec 24, 10:55�am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"PocketRadio" wrote in message

...

Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.

A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this
increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains not
quantifiable today.

"FCC to Consider Raising FM-HD Power Levels"

"Why would radio stations take the risk of degrading the quality of
their existing analog service in order to pimp a flawed technology
which nobody's listening to? It's almost as if the strategy of the HD
Radio Alliance is to degrade analog radio service in order to force
digital adoption - kind of a variant on the 'we had to destroy the
village to save it' rationale."

http://tinyurl.com/67bgv7

I'de say appove it, then watch FM turn into the same situation as AM-
HD - but this time, there will be lawsuits:

"Comments of Simmons Media Group, LLC"

"Large-market and large-group stations with more resources will be the
most likely to increase digital operating power, leaving small-market,
rural, and family-owned analog broadcasters to lose revenues from
interference while undertaking large attorney and engineering fees to
fight digital interference at the FCC."

http://tinyurl.com/6fmcx4

Hasn't Struble done a wonderful job pitting broadcasters against one
another. IBOC will eventually destroy the radio industry. Struble must
a a real hate of the industry.

On Dec 24, 11:58�am, wrote:
On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote:





On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote:

On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:

"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"

NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.

Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.

The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.

The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?

So what? �TV station revenue is down. �Auto companies revenue is
down. �The whole economy is down. �With businesses going under every
day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. �No
surprise here. �When the economy recovers, so will the advertising
income. �That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be
what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the
economy recovery. �So the stats for November are really worthless as
an argument against radio or HD radio.

The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on
an already stressed industry. �Radio is just trying to keep its head
above water. �In that sense 20% IS significant. �Isn't that right
Eduardo.

I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out.
I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. �I
guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in
danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. �That's about as
selfish as one can get. �And hoping that the radio industry will fold
shows the disgusting person you really are.

GET A LIFE!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

LMFAO!

On Dec 24, 11:58 am, wrote:
On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote:



On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote:

On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:

"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"

NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.

Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.

The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.

The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?

So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is
down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every
day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No
surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising
income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be
what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the
economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as
an argument against radio or HD radio.

The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on
an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head
above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right
Eduardo.

I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out.
I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. I
guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in
danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. That's about as
selfish as one can get. And hoping that the radio industry will fold
shows the disgusting person you really are.

GET A LIFE!

Hey GET A LIFE - You need to GET REAL. HD radio and other big
business have suffered from GREED for years. It's now catching up
with them. I personally love it.

On Dec 24, 3:10 pm, wrote:
On Dec 24, 11:58 am, wrote:



On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote:

On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote:

On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:

"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"

NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.

Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.

The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.

The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?

So what? TV station revenue is down. Auto companies revenue is
down. The whole economy is down. With businesses going under every
day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. No
surprise here. When the economy recovers, so will the advertising
income. That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be
what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the
economy recovery. So the stats for November are really worthless as
an argument against radio or HD radio.

The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on
an already stressed industry. Radio is just trying to keep its head
above water. In that sense 20% IS significant. Isn't that right
Eduardo.

I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out.
I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. I
guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in
danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. That's about as
selfish as one can get. And hoping that the radio industry will fold
shows the disgusting person you really are.

GET A LIFE!

Big Business, banks, investors, big media, bloated government
agencies, newspapers, auto manufacturers, retailers and probably YOU
(and ****heads like Eduardo) have been living in financial never-never
land for years and it’s all coming to a head. Now. And they still
justify their self-serving actions while the Titanic sinks to the
bottom. Look at yourself and tell me it's not true.

I can’t wait to see it continue in 2009 I just love it!

Merry Christmas!

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...

Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.

A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this
increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains
not quantifiable today.

So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator??

On Dec 24, 2:34*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message

...



"PocketRadio" wrote in message
....

Yea, it does - stations won't be able to afford the new transmitters/
antennas, if the 10db power increase is approved for FM-HD.

A large percentage of stations believe the technical sacrifices on this
increase do not justify the potential gains today. The interference to
in-market second adjacents may be too severe to tolerate, and the gains
not quantifiable today.

- So now you admit that IBOC is a QRM generator??

Yeah - IBOC is "By-Design" a Noise Generator
for Analog Radio Users.

IBOC Planned
http://electronicdesign.com/Files/29.../Figure_02.gif
http://www.jampro.com/uploads/images...LHD/ALLHD1.jpg

IBOC Actual
http://www.ham-radio.com/k6sti/iboc0.jpg
http://www.contelec.com/images%5CSpectral-plot.jpg

~ RHF

On Dec 24, 8:58*am, wrote:
On Dec 23, 9:51 pm, wrote:



On Dec 23, 11:29 pm, wrote:

On Dec 23, 6:33 pm, PocketRadio wrote:

"Revenue Falls 20 Percent In November"

NEW YORK -- December 22, 2008: November showed the worst revenue
numbers in a long, down year, the RAB reports: Radio revenue was off
by 20 percent compared to November 2007.

Local fell 21 percent last month, with national off 24 percent, with
local and national combining for a 22 percent decline. Off-air
revenue, which has risen most months this year, crept up again in
November, rising 1 percent.

The November dropoff follows reports that grand-total revenue was down
10 percent in October and 8 percent in September.

The RAB bases its local and national figures on about 100 markets as
reported by Miller Kaplan Arase & Co.

http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntr...&pt=todaysnews

Eduardo - can you spin this in a positive way for HD Radio?

So what? *TV station revenue is down. *Auto companies revenue is
down. *The whole economy is down. *With businesses going under every
day, you should expect this to happen with radio advertising. *No
surprise here. *When the economy recovers, so will the advertising
income. *That's not to say that radio advertising income will ever be
what it was a few years ago, but it will recover somewhat with the
economy recovery. *So the stats for November are really worthless as
an argument against radio or HD radio.

The point is - radio is so strapped that a 20% drop puts pressure on
an already stressed industry. *Radio is just trying to keep its head
above water. *In that sense 20% IS significant. *Isn't that right
Eduardo.

I haven't heard of the radio industry asking congress for a bail out.
I think it's a shame how some people enjoy seeing others suffer. *I
guess some of you think as long as it is someone else's job that is in
danger and not your own, it's just fine with you. *That's about as
selfish as one can get. *

- And hoping that the radio industry will fold
- shows the disgusting person you really are.

Right-On !

- GET A LIFE!