In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Mike" wrote in message
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Salty,

Shoo troll, find another bridge - we're celebrating the slow, but
sure, death of MW IBOC!

What is dying is AM itself. The major format is moving to FM, and listening
levels are declining faster than ever.

I haven't noticed that happening around here.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Mike" wrote in message
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Salty,

Shoo troll, find another bridge - we're celebrating the slow, but
sure, death of MW IBOC!

What is dying is AM itself. The major format is moving to FM, and
listening
levels are declining faster than ever.

I haven't noticed that happening around here.

AM listening in the Ventura market is now down to 5.4% of listening, off 20%
in the last two years alone. There is nothing there to even think about
moving to FM, as none of them are successful.

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Mike" wrote in message
...
Salty,

Shoo troll, find another bridge - we're celebrating the slow, but
sure, death of MW IBOC!

What is dying is AM itself. The major format is moving to FM, and
listening
levels are declining faster than ever.

I haven't noticed that happening around here.

AM listening in the Ventura market is now down to 5.4% of listening, off 20%
in the last two years alone. There is nothing there to even think about
moving to FM, as none of them are successful.

So what's going to happen? Are they going to start disappearing then?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Mike" wrote in message
...
Salty,

Shoo troll, find another bridge - we're celebrating the slow, but
sure, death of MW IBOC!

What is dying is AM itself. The major format is moving to FM, and
listening
levels are declining faster than ever.

I haven't noticed that happening around here.

AM listening in the Ventura market is now down to 5.4% of listening, off
20%
in the last two years alone. There is nothing there to even think about
moving to FM, as none of them are successful.

So what's going to happen? Are they going to start disappearing then?


They will become more niche, paid religion, paid niche ethnic,
buy-an-hour-and-be-on-the-radio, etc. Eventually, many will be shut off,
particularly ones with valuable land or expensive to maintain
directionals... like 1520.

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Mike" wrote in message
...
Salty,

Shoo troll, find another bridge - we're celebrating the slow, but
sure, death of MW IBOC!

What is dying is AM itself. The major format is moving to FM, and listening
levels are declining faster than ever.

I haven't noticed that happening around here.

It's a lack of imagination. Every Clear Channel AM News Talker sounds
like any other, sounds like any other Citadel AM News Talker, sounds
like any other Emmis AM News Talker, sounds like every CBS News Talker
(we have 2 here KNX and KFWB fon't ask me why). There is no variety to
speak of. The only new thing on the AM is Progressive Talk and that
gets a decent audience in towns where they have a competitive signal and
don't share the time with Hockey or Women's Basketball.

AM used to sound good, before digital tuners and 4 kHz ceramic filters,
and finally IBOC. You used to be able to transmit music and make it
sound good. Now the corporations are clueless, as usual.

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
AM used to sound good, before digital tuners and 4 kHz ceramic filters,
and finally IBOC. You used to be able to transmit music and make it sound
good. Now the corporations are clueless, as usual.


You also have to remember that the music that *was* broadcast on AM was
recorded and mixed on equipment that perfectly matched the sound of AM.
Not much bass, virtually no treble but lots of midrange. Listen to records
from the 20s thru the mid 50s and you will know what I mean. Then FM (and
better recording equipment/tape) came along and people started caring about
Hi Fidelity.

Today's recorded music sounds terrible on AM because it is recorded/mixed
with digital, full fidelity playback in mind, and *maybe* FM. AM is not
even considered these days.

Believe me, I have tried. I have several different AM transmitters here,
and *many* good, wideband AM tube radios. OTR and music sounds fabulous,
but modern recordings sound like crap. AM simply does not have the
bandwidth or dynamic range that modern recordings demand.

"Bob Campbell" wrote in message
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Believe me, I have tried. I have several different AM transmitters here,
and *many* good, wideband AM tube radios. OTR and music sounds fabulous,
but modern recordings sound like crap. AM simply does not have the
bandwidth or dynamic range that modern recordings demand.

Most modern recordings, at least of popular (i.e. rock, rap, hiphop) don't
have any dynamic range. They're punched up to be uniformly loud (as are most
radio stations).

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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Most modern recordings, at least of popular (i.e. rock, rap, hiphop) don't
have any dynamic range. They're punched up to be uniformly loud (as are
most radio stations).

We clearly listen to different music.

Bob Campbell wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
m...
AM used to sound good, before digital tuners and 4 kHz ceramic
filters, and finally IBOC. You used to be able to transmit music and
make it sound good. Now the corporations are clueless, as usual.


You also have to remember that the music that *was* broadcast on AM was
recorded and mixed on equipment that perfectly matched the sound of AM.
Not much bass, virtually no treble but lots of midrange. Listen to
records from the 20s thru the mid 50s and you will know what I mean.
Then FM (and better recording equipment/tape) came along and people
started caring about Hi Fidelity.

I totally disagree. AM radio sounded magnificent at one time. They
started crowding stations together about 30 years ago and cut down on
the bandwidth so they could fit more stations on the dial. Now they're
bitching because nobody can make any money. ****ing ridiculous.

On Dec 29, 12:16 pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

m...

AM used to sound good, before digital tuners and 4 kHz ceramic filters,
and finally IBOC. You used to be able to transmit music and make it sound
good. Now the corporations are clueless, as usual.

You also have to remember that the music that *was* broadcast on AM was
recorded and mixed on equipment that perfectly matched the sound of AM.
Not much bass, virtually no treble but lots of midrange. Listen to records
from the 20s thru the mid 50s and you will know what I mean. Then FM (and
better recording equipment/tape) came along and people started caring about
Hi Fidelity.

Today's recorded music sounds terrible on AM because it is recorded/mixed
with digital, full fidelity playback in mind, and *maybe* FM. AM is not
even considered these days.

Believe me, I have tried. I have several different AM transmitters here,
and *many* good, wideband AM tube radios. OTR and music sounds fabulous,
but modern recordings sound like crap. AM simply does not have the
bandwidth or dynamic range that modern recordings demand.

That's absolutely crap