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On Dec 31, 8:53*am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

m...

Bob Campbell wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message
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Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a
dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced
by facts. I would avoid those people myself.

Indeed. *Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works
in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's.
He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.

'Dwardo works in COMMERCIAL radio and lives in a bubble. *Hell, he admits
to never having listened to radio stations with huge numbers, apparently
because they challenge his "lowest common denominator" philosophy of
broadcasting.

The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations in the
nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the music segments..

- It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK.

KPFK = KP {Kitchen Patrol} F {Freaking} K {Crazy}

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Dave wrote:

msg wrote:

Bob Campbell wrote:

snip

Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be
cheering the demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact
that HD appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is
no interest in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one
listens to commercial radio any more.


I find this proposition presented in this NG all too often and find it
arrogant and disgusting. Living in a smaller market, filled with folks
decidedly not in the coveted demographic, we for the most part support,
and appreciate our local AM and non-commercial radio stations and
tolerate
the ever-changing FM cacophony; there is no crisis of profitability or
viability in our AM market and if it were threatened you can be sure of
a loud protest in halls of government from our citizens.

Michael

Thank-you. Just because giant public companies can't run radio at a
profit, there's no reason to write off the medium. Ma and Pa operations
can make money, if they provide a service.

FWIW, I have been impressed with the longevity and programming at WGPA (Lehigh
Valley PA -- I listen to the Internet stream) and cite it as a splendid example
of what AM can be. From some 'radio-info.com' forum posts:

Joe's station may be a peanut whistle, but it's probably the last true
example of what radio stations should be. It should serve the community's
interests. Yes, people actually do like polka...yes, people really believe
what Ron Angle says...yes they are members of the community that are served
by WGPA...just like the droolers who listen to the same 20 songs over and over
on the 5o Kw flamethrowers in town...for such a "crappy" station, it does get
alot of attention here, doesn't it?

....and

I was visiting family in the Lehigh Valley area over the last couple of days,
and just out of curiosity stopped in and payed Joe a visit at WGPA. He gave
me a very friendly welcome and a tour of the facility. It is really quite
well equipped for a small station. Just like my station, WIOO in Carlisle,
WGPA is still all live with local personalities and no automation. Gotta love
that. We discussed where we can still get pads for our carts! WGPA has a new
transmitter and processing and sounds technically very good and clean. Joe
really does provide his community with something none of the conglomerates
can offer. I wish him a long healthy life and his station continued success.

Michael

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Dave wrote:

snip
Thank-you. Just because giant public companies can't run radio at a
profit, there's no reason to write off the medium. Ma and Pa
operations can make money, if they provide a service.

I find it interesting that many posters to this NG are also posting
to 'radio-info.com' forums. Out of the pile of posts involving HD
on that site, here is a thread of some relevance to this thread:

http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/ind...c,70934.0.html

Michael

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In article ,
"Bob Campbell" wrote:

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream
world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts.
I would avoid those people myself.

Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in
radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. He has
access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.

Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the
demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact that HD appears to be
failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all.
No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more.

Be careful what you wish for.

As technology HD blows. As a business model HD is a power grab.

I'm all for NEW, WORKABLE, DIGITAL technology that actually has payback
value for the consumer along with the broadcaster.

I'm for technology that has improved sound quality and quality of
service, which is not OWNED BY SOME SAD-SACK CONSORTIUM.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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In article ,
"Bob Campbell" wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...
The average person is simply happy with what they have, and uninterested
in spending the money for a so called upgrade.

The average person IS happy - but he is NOT listening to radio these days.
One more generation of MP3 player listeners who grow up not listening to
radio *at all* will be the end of radio.

Personal anecdote. I have a 20 year old daughter in college. She is home
for Christmas vacation. She is *very* into her digital music collection.
She has *no* vinyl records/cassette tapes, very few CDs and never listens to
the radio, but she has tons of MP3s. She noticed I have 2 laptops and 2
"other things" on top of the entertainment center/bookshelf in the upstairs
family room. She asked "why do you have 2 laptops up there?" My answer
was that these were 2 of my AM radio stations - 800 AM and 630 AM. She
asked "What do you mean 800 AM? What is that?" I said "You know, AM
radio." I got a blank stare from her.

Nuff said.

Frankly, I hope that AM radio dies sooner rather than later. It will free
up more frequencies for me to "housecast" internet radio/MP3 players on. I
currently have about 10 AM transmitters, but I am only using 3 of them right
now due to lack of frequencies that don't interfere with each other.

Don't worry Bob, she will grow up some day.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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On Dec 30, 8:03�pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message

...

Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream
world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts.
I would avoid those people myself.

Indeed. �Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in
radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. �He has
access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.

Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the
demise of HD. � As HD goes, so goes radio. � The fact that HD appears to be
failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all.
No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more..

Be careful what you wish for.

I'de destroy radio, just to destroy HD/IBOC!

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On Dec 30, 8:03�pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message

...

Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream
world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts.
I would avoid those people myself.

Indeed. �Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in
radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. �He has
access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.

Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the
demise of HD. � As HD goes, so goes radio. � The fact that HD appears to be
failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all.
No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more..

Be careful what you wish for.

I love it!

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On Dec 30, 9:02�pm, msg wrote:
Bob Campbell wrote:

snip

Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering
the demise of HD. � As HD goes, so goes radio. � The fact that HD
appears to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest
in radio at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to
commercial radio any more.

I find this proposition presented in this NG all too often and find it
arrogant and disgusting. �Living in a smaller market, filled with folks
decidedly not in the coveted demographic, we for the most part support,
and appreciate our local AM and non-commercial radio stations and tolerate
the ever-changing FM cacophony; there is no crisis of profitability or
viability in our AM market and if it were threatened you can be sure of
a loud protest in halls of government from our citizens.

Michael

Eduardo hates AM radio, because AM-HD has been a failure.

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On Dec 30, 9:24�pm, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"msg" wrote in message

ernet...





Bob Campbell wrote:

snip
Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering
the demise of HD. � As HD goes, so goes radio. � The fact that HD appears
to be failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio
at all. No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio
any more.

I find this proposition presented in this NG all too often and find it
arrogant and disgusting. �Living in a smaller market, filled with folks
decidedly not in the coveted demographic, we for the most part support,
and appreciate our local AM and non-commercial radio stations and tolerate
the ever-changing FM cacophony; there is no crisis of profitability or
viability in our AM market and if it were threatened you can be sure of
a loud protest in halls of government from our citizens.

AMs are dying, or starving for revenue, even in small markets. In general,
the smaller market FMs have better signals and have killed the rural
daytimers, Class IV's and such.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"News/Talk/Sports: Radio's Last Bastion"

"Music FMs of any flavor are utterly screwed... Right now -- while FMs
are losing the music audience to new media -- satellite radio is
offering more News/Talk/Sports programming than we can fit on AM
radio."

http://ftp.media.radcity.net/ZMST/daily/IS031005.htm

Many of the larger 50kw AMs are in the top-5, or #1 in their markets,
such as WLW. It's the music-oriented FMs that are slowly dying.

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David Eduardo wrote:


The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations in
the nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the music
segments.

It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK.

It splits NPR flagship programming with KPCC. Ranked 30th during
Morning Edition? Or some admittedly terrible (but they seem to serve an
audience, peaople give them money) music program?