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Dave[_18_] December 31st 08 11:34 PM

KPFA = KP {Kitchen Patrol} F {Freaking} A {Anarchy}
 
RHF wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:53 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message

m...

Bob Campbell wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...
Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a
dream world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced
by facts. I would avoid those people myself.
Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works
in radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's.
He has access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.
'Dwardo works in COMMERCIAL radio and lives in a bubble. Hell, he admits
to never having listened to radio stations with huge numbers, apparently
because they challenge his "lowest common denominator" philosophy of
broadcasting.

The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations in the
nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the music segments.

- It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK.

KPFK = KP {Kitchen Patrol} F {Freaking} K {Crazy}
.
KPFA = KP {Kitchen Patrol} F {Freaking} A {Anarchy}
.
all part of "Pacifica Radio"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacifica_Radio
.


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Dave[_18_] January 1st 09 03:45 AM

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David Eduardo wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
David Eduardo wrote:


The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations
in the nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the
music segments.

It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK.


It splits NPR flagship programming with KPCC. Ranked 30th during
Morning Edition? Or some admittedly terrible (but they seem to serve
an audience, peaople give them money) music program?


WCRW is 39th in the December book, just a bit behind the web stream of
COST.

It's 34th in morning drive.

KICK is 17th in the morning.


Have you been drinking?

What is KCRW's highest rated program?

David Eduardo[_4_] January 1st 09 05:14 AM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message
m...
David Eduardo wrote:


The station you mention is one of the worst performing NPR stations in
the nation. In part, it is due to the horrible numbers for the music
segments.

It's ranked around 30th in LA, only narrowly beating KPFK.

It splits NPR flagship programming with KPCC. Ranked 30th during
Morning Edition? Or some admittedly terrible (but they seem to serve an
audience, peaople give them money) music program?


WCRW is 39th in the December book, just a bit behind the web stream of
COST.

It's 34th in morning drive.

KICK is 17th in the morning.


KPCC... the spell checker did this before I realized it... and then I was
late for dinner.

Have you been drinking?


I don't drink, unlike some posters. Don't do drugs, either... even ones some
people we know think are mistakenly classified as illegal.

What is KCRW's highest rated program?


6-10 AM, with a 1 share 12+. That ties it with KWVE, the religious FM from
San Clemente.


Dave[_18_] January 1st 09 05:32 PM

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David Eduardo wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message



What is KCRW's highest rated program?


6-10 AM, with a 1 share 12+. That ties it with KWVE, the religious FM
from San Clemente.


So that indicates 1% of how many total?

Pocket-Radio January 1st 09 05:39 PM

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On Dec 30 2008, 8:03*pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:
"David Eduardo" wrote in message

...

Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream
world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts.
I would avoid those people myself.


Indeed. *Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in
radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. *He has
access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.

Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the
demise of HD. * As HD goes, so goes radio. * The fact that HD appears to be
failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all.
No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more..

Be careful what you wish for.


Radio as we know it is dying. The industry still has their collective
heads in the sand.
While (cume) total listening remains strong, (TSL) time spent
listening continues to trend down. FM radio made the mistake of
becoming jukebox clones, and forgot they were still in the
entertainment business. Wall Street operators cheapened the product by
eliminating talented people and reducing the ones who remain to
glorified button pushers and voice trackers. Homogenized formats,
endless promos and playing 10 spots in a row hurt radio further. Say
what you want about satradio, but it came to be because enough people
grew tired of commercial radio's trash programming. Adults 35+ still
listen to radio. Adults 12-34 listen to radio when there is nothing
else. Advertisers are demanding accountability, a concept foreign to
most broadcasters. New media is growing in part because it addresses
their accountability needs. Before our recent world wide economic
meltdown, radio revenues have to been flat and trending down for
years. Traditional media dollars are shifting to the Internet.

Steve Jobs built a better jukebox, and like no time in history users
can carry 500 songs in the palm of their hands. Research points to
ipod fatigue and that users grow tired of managing their own playlist.
While that maybe true for some, for others it’s a small issue. The
research comes from well-funded groups with agendas, where asking the
right questions distorts the results, its not pure. PPM is turning
some well-believed ideals on its head. Radio's loyal audience, doesn't
exist, radio doesn't have exclusive cumes, listeners aren’t listening
for long time periods.

From station to station, market-to-market radio all sounds the same.
The trends are for more syndicated programming, and AM talk formats
moving to FM where traditional music once ruled.

Free music is everyplace today. Thanks to the Internet, DJ's are
becoming a dying breed because for the first time in history, users
can program their own playlist live, and share it with other
listeners. The concept of top down programming from the PD is old
school.

Growth of HD is slow and offers listeners more of the same jukebox
cloned formats found on FM radio. And in homes, you'll find 8 radios
that listeners are comfortable with how they sound and the various
formats. HD doesn't offer compelling reasons to upgrade.

The next generation has unplugged from radio. Sticking to old school
radio will kill HD. Radio of the future, will include the ability to
store music and capture digital streams. We live in a times-shifted
world where users can control and delete content. Give listeners the
ability to program their own music and content from their HD radio.

Radio's last hope is talent, where original content comes from writing
and research. Playing music, mass media style is dead, something the
next generation of listeners have no interest in.

The bloodiest battle is taking place on the dashboard. While radio
continues to defend the fortress, radio’s enemy is climbing the walls.
Expect within the next 5-10 years every dashboard will be Internet
enabled. Either free or paid wireless Internet access will be
commonplace. Radio’s current group of corrupt Wall Street leaders know
this to be true. And The NAB continues to play their lobbyist games,
wasting resources fighting satradio, which hasn’t worked. The future
won’t stop and technology is going to change how you and I receive
information. Radio lives in a world of denial afraid to make changes,
while clinging onto the past, afraid they’ll loose power and control.

Change is coming!













Dave[_18_] January 1st 09 05:52 PM

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Pocket-Radio wrote:


Radio's last hope is talent, where original content comes from writing
and research. Playing music, mass media style is dead, something the
next generation of listeners have no interest in.

The bloodiest battle is taking place on the dashboard. While radio
continues to defend the fortress, radio’s enemy is climbing the walls.
Expect within the next 5-10 years every dashboard will be Internet
enabled. Either free or paid wireless Internet access will be
commonplace. Radio’s current group of corrupt Wall Street leaders know
this to be true. And The NAB continues to play their lobbyist games,
wasting resources fighting satradio, which hasn’t worked. The future
won’t stop and technology is going to change how you and I receive
information. Radio lives in a world of denial afraid to make changes,
while clinging onto the past, afraid they’ll loose power and control.

Traditional radio programming lives-on regardless of the delivery
mechanism. Likewise, people will seek out compelling content.

Monty Hall January 1st 09 06:16 PM

HD Radio shutdown in Wash, D.C! LMFAO!
 

Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a
dream
world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by
facts.
I would avoid those people myself.


Indeed. ?Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works
in
radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. ?He
has
access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.

Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering
the
demise of HD. ? As HD goes, so goes radio. ? The fact that HD appears to
be
failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at
all.
No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more.

Be careful what you wish for.


I'd destroy radio, just to destroy HD/IBOC!


Wow...I think you have some anger issues....all because you can't DX
anymore..

But considering your track record for predictions Gallant, I dont think HD
has anything to worry about.





David Eduardo[_4_] January 1st 09 07:47 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Dave" wrote in message



What is KCRW's highest rated program?


6-10 AM, with a 1 share 12+. That ties it with KWVE, the religious FM
from San Clemente.


So that indicates 1% of how many total?


1% of the average radio listenership during that time period.


RHF January 1st 09 09:24 PM

PocketRadio -proclaims- I'd Destroy Radio : Just To Destroy HD/IBOC !
 
On Dec 31 2008, 2:54*pm, PocketRadio wrote:
On Dec 30, 8:03 pm, "Bob Campbell" wrote:



"David Eduardo" wrote in message


.. .


Obviously, the people who wish to continue in denial or living in a dream
world of self-invented fiction and fantasy will not be convinced by facts.
I would avoid those people myself.


Indeed. Since David is the *only* regular poster here who actually works in
radio, I believe his postings and generally ignore everyone else's. He has
access to actual facts, not just anecdotes.


Also, I find it fascinating that so many people here seem to be cheering the
demise of HD. As HD goes, so goes radio. The fact that HD appears to be
failing only reinforces the idea that there is no interest in radio at all.
No one cares about HD because no one listens to commercial radio any more.


Be careful what you wish for.


- I'de destroy radio, just to destroy HD/IBOC!

PocketRadio -proclaims- I'd Destroy Radio : Just To Destroy HD/IBOC !

'pr' - yeah i kind of figured that one out by now ~ RHF

RHF January 1st 09 09:30 PM

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On Dec 31 2008, 5:17*am, Dave wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


The DC AMs for the most part have little or zero ratings, with only 5
showing up in the Summer Arbitron book out of 26 total ams in the
market. Of
the 5 that showed, only one got over a 1 share in 12+, and none got
over a 2
share in 25-54, the "sales demo." *20 FMs got over a 1 share, though.


News WTOP-FM alone had a 12+ share greater than the share of all the
DC FMs.


Take a hike, 'Eduardo', as your fluff and fakery aren't playing well
here in
RRS, just as it doesn't in Peoria.


All data came from Arbitron. Anyone subscribed to the market can see the
same thing.


Arbitron is full of ****. *Who cares if you have 50,000 listeners, if
they're all brain dead? *5,000 of the right kind of people are way more
salable.


Dave in America one Set-of-Ears is the equal of
another Set-of-Ears - Oops except if they are a
Pair of Over 50 Ears and then they are not salable.
~ RHF


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