wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=250796
cuhulin

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

On Dec 31, 3:37�pm, ka6uup wrote:
wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=250796
cuhulin

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born


Some folks will never tolerate a Black president with a Muslim name.
They will continue to spawn new reasons not to accept him as their
president. When one reason falls apart, they'll simply move on to
others.

Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

On Dec 31, 3:37�pm, ka6uup wrote:
wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=250796
cuhulin

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

Some folks will never tolerate a Black president with a Muslim name.
They will continue to spawn new reasons not to accept him as their
president. When one reason falls apart, they'll simply move on to
others.

Some folks never tolerated a White President with a last name resembling a lawn
decoration. They continud to spawn new reasons not to accept him as their
President. When one reason fell apart, they simply moved on to
others.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Dec 31, 12:55*pm, Mike wrote:

- - On Dec 31, 3:37 pm, ka6uup wrote:
- - His Mother is/was an American citizen.
- - Therefore he is an American citizen no
- - matter where he was born

Re-Check Your Facts : Not Necessarily True

- Some folks will never tolerate a Black president
- with a Muslim name. They will continue to spawn
- new reasons not to accept him as their president.
- When one reason falls apart, they'll simply move
- on to others.

MWB,

Actually You are Wrong on Both Issues :

MISSTATEMENT # 1 : Obama is "Black"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
-that would be- wrong, Wrong. WRONG !

MWB - Barack Hussein Obama is 'only' Half {Black}
African {African-African?} from his Father.

MWB - Barack Hussein Obama is "Also" Half {White}
American {Euro-American?} from his Mother

MISSTATEMENT # 2 : Obama's Name is "Muslim"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
-that would be- wrong, Wrong. WRONG !
http://islam.about.com/od/us2004election/f/obama.htm

MWB - Which part of Barack Hussein Obama 'Legal'
Full and Complete Birth Name is Muslim ?
* First Name : Barack ? - Most Likely IDK ? {Hebrew?}
http://www.babynames.com/name/BARACK
* Middle Name : Hussein ? - Most Likely Muslim
http://www.babynames.com/Names/name_display.php?id=1736
* Last Name : Obama ? - Most Likely African
Family Tribal Origin Name
http://www.babynames.com/Names/name_...y.php?id=10152

So in-fact Most Likely 'Part' of His Name is Muslim Only.

Once Again I Am Casting-Out The Obama Misrepresenters
for this Blessed New Year of Liberalibration© and Democratination© :

Um ShaKa Do Do ! - Be Gone All Ye Obama Misrepresenters

Rejoice We Are Entering "The Age of Obama-R-Us"©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f9e38db4b4ade7

RHF wrote:
On Dec 31, 12:55 pm, Mike wrote:

- - On Dec 31, 3:37 pm, ka6uup wrote:
- - His Mother is/was an American citizen.
- - Therefore he is an American citizen no
- - matter where he was born

Re-Check Your Facts : Not Necessarily True

- Some folks will never tolerate a Black president
- with a Muslim name. They will continue to spawn
- new reasons not to accept him as their president.
- When one reason falls apart, they'll simply move
- on to others.

MWB,

Actually You are Wrong on Both Issues :

MISSTATEMENT # 1 : Obama is "Black"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
-that would be- wrong, Wrong. WRONG !

MWB - Barack Hussein Obama is 'only' Half {Black}
African {African-African?} from his Father.

MWB - Barack Hussein Obama is "Also" Half {White}
American {Euro-American?} from his Mother

MISSTATEMENT # 2 : Obama's Name is "Muslim"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
-that would be- wrong, Wrong. WRONG !
http://islam.about.com/od/us2004election/f/obama.htm

MWB - Which part of Barack Hussein Obama 'Legal'
Full and Complete Birth Name is Muslim ?
* First Name : Barack ? - Most Likely IDK ? {Hebrew?}
http://www.babynames.com/name/BARACK
* Middle Name : Hussein ? - Most Likely Muslim
http://www.babynames.com/Names/name_display.php?id=1736
* Last Name : Obama ? - Most Likely African
Family Tribal Origin Name
http://www.babynames.com/Names/name_...y.php?id=10152

So in-fact Most Likely 'Part' of His Name is Muslim Only.

Once Again I Am Casting-Out The Obama Misrepresenters
for this Blessed New Year of Liberalibration© and Democratination© :

Um ShaKa Do Do ! - Be Gone All Ye Obama Misrepresenters

Rejoice We Are Entering "The Age of Obama-R-Us"©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f9e38db4b4ade7
.
WE LOVE* OUR PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA
* All American Republi-Can-DoDos For Obama
* * All American Christian-True-Believers In Obama
* * * BHO Will Be A Great and Wonderful US President
.
this is 'rhf' and i disapprove of this off-topic message ~ RHF
{ equal dis-opportunity net-nannys-r-us }
-signed- Red King + Army Rule + A Fish
.
.
Nope! You are wrong.

ka6uup wrote:

...
His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

I am no attorney. However, I strongly suspect you are correct. Only a
very rudimentary amount of logic need be applied to support your point.

If an American woman (and citizen) gives birth on foreign soil, I don't
see a large battle in attaining American citizenship for the child; I
suspect it is only a formality in completing the proper paperwork.

Certainly American tourists must experience this daily; I have never
heard of any discussion/challenges as to whether the child has a right
to American citizenship, or not ... true, the child may have dual
citizenship, depending on what is recognized by the country of true
physical birth ...

Doesn't the constitution state, " "No person except a natural born
citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption
of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;
neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have
attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a
resident within the United States."

Since there are NEITHER any "natural born citizens" or even "citizens of
the united states" who were alive at the adoption of that constitution,
STILL ALIVE, it could equally, and with like logic, be argued that no
one has the right of being president of the United States!

So, it would seem, indeed, he IS a natural born citizen ... and, was,
quite NATURALLY, so because his mother was a citizen.

But, this is how fools make lawyers rich, I guess ...

Regards,
JS

On Jan 2, 5:12*pm, John Smith wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

* ...

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

I am no attorney. *However, I strongly suspect you are correct. *Only a
very rudimentary amount of logic need be applied to support your point.

If an American woman (and citizen) gives birth on foreign soil, I don't
see a large battle in attaining American citizenship for the child; *I
suspect it is only a formality in completing the proper paperwork.

Certainly American tourists must experience this daily; *I have never
heard of any discussion/challenges as to whether the child has a right
to American citizenship, or not ... true, the child may have dual
citizenship, depending on what is recognized by the country of true
physical birth ...

- Doesn't the constitution state, " "No person except a
- natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States,
- at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall
- be eligible to the office of President;
- neither shall any person be eligible to that office who
- shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years,
- and been fourteen Years a resident within the
- United States."

- Since there are NEITHER any "natural born citizens"
- or even "citizens of the united states" who were alive
- at the adoption of that constitution, STILL ALIVE,
- it could equally, and with like logic, be argued that no
- one has the right of being president of the United States!

JS - In this instance your 'Logic' is clearly Flawed ~ RHF

- So, it would seem, indeed, he IS a natural born citizen ...
- and, was, quite NATURALLY, so because his mother
- was a citizen.

Since Barack Hussein Obama is a Natural Born US
Citizen "By Birth in the State of Hawaii" : I does no
matter that his Mother was a US Citizen; or for that
matter that his Father was a Citizen of Kenya/British.

'natural born by birth' -means- "Natural Born By Birth" [.]

'age of 35 years' -means- 'Age of 35 Years"

- But, this is how fools make lawyers rich, I guess ...
- Regards,
- JS

JS - Now Go Make A Lawyer Rich ;-} ~ RHF

CONCLUSION - Barack Obama is :
1 - A Natural Born US Citizen
2 - Attained the Age of 35 Years
3 - Legally the US President-Elect

ka6uup wrote:

...
His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make
any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question,
and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I
would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship
to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here!
Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness
.... grin

Regards,
JS

wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=250796
cuhulin


It would seem as if the group, "Stupid people for republicans and John
McCain" are still alive and well.

Obama takes us back towards sanity--he must be stopped! Where are our
republi-crat heroes?;
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...nounces_1.html

Republicans don't want you to participate in your own government. They
want to take care of you (at a cost, of course.) They will need your
money to do that--so relax, go home, go to bed, don't worry about it, be
prepared for the "republican plan" when they take back control, and, of
course, send them more of your money! They'll need that; they are like
that, yanno?

Damn democrats anyway! Who are they to ask us to participate in our own
government! ROFLOL

Regards,
JS

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Damn democrats anyway! Who are they to ask us to participate in our own
government! ROFLOL


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure
that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation.
Pelosi's proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol, that
any thought President-elect Obama has of bipartisan cooperation will be
rendered impossible before he even takes office.

Pelosi's rule changes -- which may be voted on today -- will reverse the
fairness rules that were written around Newt Gingrich's "Contract with
America."

In reaction, the House Republican leadership is sending a letter today to
Pelosi to object to changes to House Rules this week that would bar
Republicans from offering alternative bills, amendments to Democrat bills or
even the guarantee of open debate accessible by motions to recommit for any
piece of legislation during the entire 111th Congress. These procedural
abuses, as outlined in the below letter obtained by HUMAN EVENTS, would also
include the repeal of six-year limit for committee chairmen and other House
Rules reform measures enacted in 1995 as part of the Contract with America.

After decades of Democrat control of the House of Representatives, gross
abuses to the legislative process and several high-profile scandals
contributed to an overwhelming Republican House Congressional landslide
victory in 1994. Reforms to the House Rules as part of the Contract with
America were designed to open up to public scrutiny what had become under
this decades-long Democrat majority a dangerously secretive House
legislative process. The Republican reform of the way the House did business
included opening committee meetings to the public and media, making Congress
actually subject to federal law, term limits for committee chairmen ending
decades-long committee fiefdoms, truth in budgeting, elimination of the
committee proxy vote, authorization of a House audit, specific requirements
for blanket rules waivers, and guarantees to the then-Democrat minority
party to offer amendments to pieces of legislation.

Pelosi's proposed repeal of decades-long House accountability reforms
exposes a tyrannical Democrat leadership poised to assemble legislation in
secret, then goose-step it through Congress by the elimination of debate and
amendment procedures as part of America's governing legislative process.