Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" Bryant wrote:

On Dec 31, 3:37�pm, ka6uup wrote:
wrote:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=250796
cuhulin

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

Some folks will never tolerate a Black president with a Muslim name.
They will continue to spawn new reasons not to accept him as their
president. When one reason falls apart, they'll simply move on to
others.

Some folks never tolerated a White President with a last name resembling a lawn
decoration. They continud to spawn new reasons not to accept him as their
President. When one reason fell apart, they simply moved on to
others.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Dec 31, 11:56*am, Mike wrote:
On Dec 31, 2:09 pm, RHF wrote:



kook, Kook. KOOK-A-RU !

The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP )

sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
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- Could you re-post that Google abuse report address?

Just for you MWB ;-}

http://groups.google.com/groups/abus...adio.shortwave

MWB have a Happy, Peaceful and Blessed New Year

On Dec 31, 12:55*pm, Mike wrote:

- - On Dec 31, 3:37 pm, ka6uup wrote:
- - His Mother is/was an American citizen.
- - Therefore he is an American citizen no
- - matter where he was born

Re-Check Your Facts : Not Necessarily True

- Some folks will never tolerate a Black president
- with a Muslim name. They will continue to spawn
- new reasons not to accept him as their president.
- When one reason falls apart, they'll simply move
- on to others.

MWB,

Actually You are Wrong on Both Issues :

MISSTATEMENT # 1 : Obama is "Black"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
-that would be- wrong, Wrong. WRONG !

MWB - Barack Hussein Obama is 'only' Half {Black}
African {African-African?} from his Father.

MWB - Barack Hussein Obama is "Also" Half {White}
American {Euro-American?} from his Mother

MISSTATEMENT # 2 : Obama's Name is "Muslim"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
-that would be- wrong, Wrong. WRONG !
http://islam.about.com/od/us2004election/f/obama.htm

MWB - Which part of Barack Hussein Obama 'Legal'
Full and Complete Birth Name is Muslim ?
* First Name : Barack ? - Most Likely IDK ? {Hebrew?}
http://www.babynames.com/name/BARACK
* Middle Name : Hussein ? - Most Likely Muslim
http://www.babynames.com/Names/name_display.php?id=1736
* Last Name : Obama ? - Most Likely African
Family Tribal Origin Name
http://www.babynames.com/Names/name_...y.php?id=10152

So in-fact Most Likely 'Part' of His Name is Muslim Only.

Once Again I Am Casting-Out The Obama Misrepresenters
for this Blessed New Year of Liberalibration© and Democratination© :

Um ShaKa Do Do ! - Be Gone All Ye Obama Misrepresenters

Rejoice We Are Entering "The Age of Obama-R-Us"©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f9e38db4b4ade7

In article 009a0d70-1b82-4cc0-8087-
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says...
On Dec 31, 11:00*am, BDK wrote:
In article ,
says...

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=250796
cuhulin

BWHAHAHAHAHAAA! Ohh, the kooktardery!!

The Obama BC insanity keeps on growing!

And so do the laughs.
--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

kook, Kook. KOOK-A-RU !

The real truth will not be 'revealed' until March 2009
and then Joe Biden will step-in as the US President
and Hillary Clinton will become the VP )

sounds crazy -but- 'the plan' is working ~ RHF
.



Ohh goody, let's hear all about the "plan".

Please?

I love a good kookplot.
--
BDK

BDK Klan leader?
kOOk Magnet!
NJJ CLUB #1
Shillmaster

RHF wrote:
On Dec 31, 12:55 pm, Mike wrote:

- - On Dec 31, 3:37 pm, ka6uup wrote:
- - His Mother is/was an American citizen.
- - Therefore he is an American citizen no
- - matter where he was born

Re-Check Your Facts : Not Necessarily True

- Some folks will never tolerate a Black president
- with a Muslim name. They will continue to spawn
- new reasons not to accept him as their president.
- When one reason falls apart, they'll simply move
- on to others.

MWB,

Actually You are Wrong on Both Issues :

MISSTATEMENT # 1 : Obama is "Black"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
-that would be- wrong, Wrong. WRONG !

MWB - Barack Hussein Obama is 'only' Half {Black}
African {African-African?} from his Father.

MWB - Barack Hussein Obama is "Also" Half {White}
American {Euro-American?} from his Mother

MISSTATEMENT # 2 : Obama's Name is "Muslim"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama
-that would be- wrong, Wrong. WRONG !
http://islam.about.com/od/us2004election/f/obama.htm

MWB - Which part of Barack Hussein Obama 'Legal'
Full and Complete Birth Name is Muslim ?
* First Name : Barack ? - Most Likely IDK ? {Hebrew?}
http://www.babynames.com/name/BARACK
* Middle Name : Hussein ? - Most Likely Muslim
http://www.babynames.com/Names/name_display.php?id=1736
* Last Name : Obama ? - Most Likely African
Family Tribal Origin Name
http://www.babynames.com/Names/name_...y.php?id=10152

So in-fact Most Likely 'Part' of His Name is Muslim Only.

Once Again I Am Casting-Out The Obama Misrepresenters
for this Blessed New Year of Liberalibration© and Democratination© :

Um ShaKa Do Do ! - Be Gone All Ye Obama Misrepresenters

Rejoice We Are Entering "The Age of Obama-R-Us"©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...f9e38db4b4ade7
.
WE LOVE* OUR PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA
* All American Republi-Can-DoDos For Obama
* * All American Christian-True-Believers In Obama
* * * BHO Will Be A Great and Wonderful US President
.
this is 'rhf' and i disapprove of this off-topic message ~ RHF
{ equal dis-opportunity net-nannys-r-us }
-signed- Red King + Army Rule + A Fish
.
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Nope! You are wrong.

ka6uup wrote:

...
His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

I am no attorney. However, I strongly suspect you are correct. Only a
very rudimentary amount of logic need be applied to support your point.

If an American woman (and citizen) gives birth on foreign soil, I don't
see a large battle in attaining American citizenship for the child; I
suspect it is only a formality in completing the proper paperwork.

Certainly American tourists must experience this daily; I have never
heard of any discussion/challenges as to whether the child has a right
to American citizenship, or not ... true, the child may have dual
citizenship, depending on what is recognized by the country of true
physical birth ...

Doesn't the constitution state, " "No person except a natural born
citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption
of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;
neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have
attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a
resident within the United States."

Since there are NEITHER any "natural born citizens" or even "citizens of
the united states" who were alive at the adoption of that constitution,
STILL ALIVE, it could equally, and with like logic, be argued that no
one has the right of being president of the United States!

So, it would seem, indeed, he IS a natural born citizen ... and, was,
quite NATURALLY, so because his mother was a citizen.

But, this is how fools make lawyers rich, I guess ...

Regards,
JS

ka6uup wrote:

...
His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make
any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question,
and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I
would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship
to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here!
Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness
.... grin

Regards,
JS

On Jan 2, 5:12*pm, John Smith wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

* ...

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

I am no attorney. *However, I strongly suspect you are correct. *Only a
very rudimentary amount of logic need be applied to support your point.

If an American woman (and citizen) gives birth on foreign soil, I don't
see a large battle in attaining American citizenship for the child; *I
suspect it is only a formality in completing the proper paperwork.

Certainly American tourists must experience this daily; *I have never
heard of any discussion/challenges as to whether the child has a right
to American citizenship, or not ... true, the child may have dual
citizenship, depending on what is recognized by the country of true
physical birth ...

- Doesn't the constitution state, " "No person except a
- natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States,
- at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall
- be eligible to the office of President;
- neither shall any person be eligible to that office who
- shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years,
- and been fourteen Years a resident within the
- United States."

- Since there are NEITHER any "natural born citizens"
- or even "citizens of the united states" who were alive
- at the adoption of that constitution, STILL ALIVE,
- it could equally, and with like logic, be argued that no
- one has the right of being president of the United States!

JS - In this instance your 'Logic' is clearly Flawed ~ RHF

- So, it would seem, indeed, he IS a natural born citizen ...
- and, was, quite NATURALLY, so because his mother
- was a citizen.

Since Barack Hussein Obama is a Natural Born US
Citizen "By Birth in the State of Hawaii" : I does no
matter that his Mother was a US Citizen; or for that
matter that his Father was a Citizen of Kenya/British.

'natural born by birth' -means- "Natural Born By Birth" [.]

'age of 35 years' -means- 'Age of 35 Years"

- But, this is how fools make lawyers rich, I guess ...
- Regards,
- JS

JS - Now Go Make A Lawyer Rich ;-} ~ RHF

CONCLUSION - Barack Obama is :
1 - A Natural Born US Citizen
2 - Attained the Age of 35 Years
3 - Legally the US President-Elect

Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" wrote:

On Jan 2, 8:24�pm, John Smith wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

� ...

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make
any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question,
and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I
would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship
to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here!
Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only eyewitness
... grin

Regards,
JS

The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was
his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply
wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth
announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a
pretty good sign he was born in the US.

But, in reality, Barry's mother 'could' have given birth in Kenya and then
returned to the US and had the announcement placed in "Hawaiin" newspapers, Mr.
PhD.

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Michael "I'm a college professor with a PhD" wrote:

On Jan 2, 8:24�pm, John Smith wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

� ...

His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born

And, since his grandmother was the only one, to my knowledge, to make
any sort of statement which would call his citizenship into question,
and further, seeing how she died so shortly after his visit to her, I
would think only the amount of logic necessary to draw his citizenship
to scrutiny need be applied to argue a nice conspiracy theory here!
Yanno', the coincidence of her dying and eliminating the only
eyewitness
... grin

Regards,
JS

The grandmother making the statements that he was born in Kenya was
his father's mother, who is still alive in Kenya. I think she simply
wants to remind people of his Kenyan roots. The fact that birth
announcements from back then were published in Hawaiin newspapers is a
pretty good sign he was born in the US.

But, in reality, Barry's mother 'could' have given birth in Kenya and then
returned to the US and had the announcement placed in "Hawaiin"
newspapers, Mr.
PhD.

Even had she done so, he would still be a natural born US citizen by virtue
of his mother being an American. Aside from that, she may have been able to
get the paper to post that he was born in Hawaii, but I doubt she could have
talked the hospital or the clerk into issuing a Hawaiian birth certificate.