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Default (OT) Obama's Kenyan Birth Evidence to be Revealed Today, Online

ka6uup wrote:

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His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born


I am no attorney. However, I strongly suspect you are correct. Only a
very rudimentary amount of logic need be applied to support your point.

If an American woman (and citizen) gives birth on foreign soil, I don't
see a large battle in attaining American citizenship for the child; I
suspect it is only a formality in completing the proper paperwork.

Certainly American tourists must experience this daily; I have never
heard of any discussion/challenges as to whether the child has a right
to American citizenship, or not ... true, the child may have dual
citizenship, depending on what is recognized by the country of true
physical birth ...

Doesn't the constitution state, " "No person except a natural born
citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption
of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;
neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have
attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a
resident within the United States."

Since there are NEITHER any "natural born citizens" or even "citizens of
the united states" who were alive at the adoption of that constitution,
STILL ALIVE, it could equally, and with like logic, be argued that no
one has the right of being president of the United States!

So, it would seem, indeed, he IS a natural born citizen ... and, was,
quite NATURALLY, so because his mother was a citizen.

But, this is how fools make lawyers rich, I guess ...

Regards,
JS
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Default (OT) : 2009 Politics - Barack Obama is a Natural Born US Citizen andhas Attained the Age of 35 Years thus is Legally the US President-Elect

On Jan 2, 5:12*pm, John Smith wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

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His Mother is/was an American citizen. Therefore he is an American
citizen no matter where he was born


I am no attorney. *However, I strongly suspect you are correct. *Only a
very rudimentary amount of logic need be applied to support your point.

If an American woman (and citizen) gives birth on foreign soil, I don't
see a large battle in attaining American citizenship for the child; *I
suspect it is only a formality in completing the proper paperwork.

Certainly American tourists must experience this daily; *I have never
heard of any discussion/challenges as to whether the child has a right
to American citizenship, or not ... true, the child may have dual
citizenship, depending on what is recognized by the country of true
physical birth ...


- Doesn't the constitution state, " "No person except a
- natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States,
- at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall
- be eligible to the office of President;
- neither shall any person be eligible to that office who
- shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years,
- and been fourteen Years a resident within the
- United States."

- Since there are NEITHER any "natural born citizens"
- or even "citizens of the united states" who were alive
- at the adoption of that constitution, STILL ALIVE,
- it could equally, and with like logic, be argued that no
- one has the right of being president of the United States!

JS - In this instance your 'Logic' is clearly Flawed ~ RHF

- So, it would seem, indeed, he IS a natural born citizen ...
- and, was, quite NATURALLY, so because his mother
- was a citizen.

Since Barack Hussein Obama is a Natural Born US
Citizen "By Birth in the State of Hawaii" : I does no
matter that his Mother was a US Citizen; or for that
matter that his Father was a Citizen of Kenya/British.

'natural born by birth' -means- "Natural Born By Birth" [.]

'age of 35 years' -means- 'Age of 35 Years"

- But, this is how fools make lawyers rich, I guess ...
- Regards,
- JS

JS - Now Go Make A Lawyer Rich ;-} ~ RHF

CONCLUSION - Barack Obama is :
1 - A Natural Born US Citizen
2 - Attained the Age of 35 Years
3 - Legally the US President-Elect
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