"Dave" wrote in message
m...
Seriously, KGO even has podcasts of most shows, as well as the stream.

Going from a shirt-pocket radio to a PC connected to two grids is easier
how?


You do what I do. Stream it then housecast it via one of the many available
home AM or FM transmitters. Then you can use your shirt-pocket radio
anywhere on your property.

95% of my radio listening is done this way now. I get the content *I*
choose from anywhere in the world, anywhere in my house. I'm no longer
limited to local stations, but still have the convenience of a portable
radio.

Best of both worlds.

"elaich" wrote in message ...
"Bob Campbell" wrote in news:TZqdnY878-
:

Callers can come from anywhere in the
world.


But they don't. They are usually up and down the West Coast, some in
Nevada, and all listening over the air, because they say they are.

This conversation is fruitless. Eduardo is as firmly set in his opinion as
we are, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, the writing is on
the
wall for IBOC, and he knows it if he won't admit it.

The writing is on the wall for AM radio, and *you* know even if you won't
admit it. AM radio is dying, everything is moving to FM. With AM dying,
there is no need for HD.

With all of the AM talk moving to FM, again there is no need for HD, as
standard FM is more than adequate for talk.

This whole HD radio effort is about 10 years too late. Not enough people
listen to the radio, for enough hours each day/week/month/whatever, to make
HD worthwhile. The young people who are into music/buying music listen to
MP3 players, not FM radio.

Simply put, not enough people care about radio any longer. It is perceived
as (and IS) ancient technology. In today's digital world, radio is simply
irrelevant to the upcoming generations, regardless of what old farts like me
think about it.

Kids today have shirt pocket MP3 players, not shirt pocket radios.

On Jan 4, 11:08�pm, elaich wrote:
"Bob Campbell" wrote in news:TZqdnY878-
:

Callers can come from anywhere in the
world.

But they don't. They are usually up and down the West Coast, some in
Nevada, and all listening over the air, because they say they are.

This conversation is fruitless. Eduardo is as firmly set in his opinion as
we are, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, the writing is on the
wall for IBOC, and he knows it if he won't admit it. They are being turned
off all over the country, as the stations are realizing they were sold a
pig in a poke, and nobody is listening. It would only attract the techie
group anyway, and they will rush to streaming radio in their cars as soon
as it's available. The avarage person who turns on their car radio for
traffic, or their kitchen radio for news and sports knows they don't need
HD to hear it. That was the flaw in the system from the very beginning. The
crowd they might have attracted don't listen to radio at all.

Go to http://www.alexa.com/ and run the graphs for max time period and
for pageviews for hdradio.com and msndirect.com - the graphs are flat.
Clear Channel made a deal with MSNDirect for traffic services, but no
one is interested.

Bob Campbell wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
m...
Seriously, KGO even has podcasts of most shows, as well as the stream.

Going from a shirt-pocket radio to a PC connected to two grids is
easier how?


You do what I do. Stream it then housecast it via one of the many
available home AM or FM transmitters. Then you can use your
shirt-pocket radio anywhere on your property.

95% of my radio listening is done this way now. I get the content *I*
choose from anywhere in the world, anywhere in my house. I'm no
longer limited to local stations, but still have the convenience of a
portable radio.

Best of both worlds.

That's even more convoluted. If i want to listen to KGO, anywhere west
of Phoenix, I wait 'til the sun goes down and tune any radio to 810 KHz.

I stream Nova M from Phoenix, and broadcast that, and KPFT on the
weekends, and Drone Zone all night long. I have a Drake SW2 by my head
when I sleep, usually on KGO or KKOH (which has been degraded by an
oldies station from Sedona).

Bob Campbell wrote:


Kids today have shirt pocket MP3 players, not shirt pocket radios.



"Kids" are the brain-dead simpletons 'dwardo's "ratings" are designed to
quantify. Making the world "kids-centric" is not a good idea.

Bob Dobbs wrote:
Telamon wrote:
How else am I going to listen to Dr. Bill Wattenburg but tune in KGO?

There's other outlets for his brand of pseudo science and whining,
even Alex Jones is more entertaining.


Dr. Bill is not pseudo-science; he's selective science.

Bob Dobbs wrote:


Some of the spots on KGO are ads within ads for a couple establishments,
and the ones for roofing services are pretty much local to the area.


They have a statewide replacement windows sponsor and fresh flowers
direct that they run in the evenings.

Bob Dobbs wrote:
Dave wrote:
You should be able to rotate the radio a little and null out some of
the Mexicans.

We used to go to the Mountains east of San Diego to have enough parallax
to separate KOMO from KCEO at night as we were on the same vector for
both in town. This was only a part of the nighttime fun for radio geeks
but I doubt the average listener is going 40 miles away to allow a null
for anything, they'd just tune elsewhere.


I have KOMO 1000 on right now. Thay have a consistently reliable signal
up and down the whole West Coast, but they are encroached badly.

1000 KHz KOMO s9+10 1413z 34.4, -118.4

"Tacoma RV Sale-Tacomadome"

Now some religious ***** is taking over (It is after 6 AM local)

*people claiming to hear "voices" really freaks out us rational types.
Somebody spoke to Berkowitz, too.

"Dave" wrote in message
m...

That's even more convoluted. If i want to listen to KGO, anywhere west of
Phoenix, I wait 'til the sun goes down and tune any radio to 810 KHz.

But what if you don't want to "wait 'til the sun goes down"? Besides, the
only way to get KGO on the east coast (where I am) is to stream it.

"Dave" wrote in message
news
There is way too much emphasis on revenue. Not enough emphasis on
service. Radio should educate and inform, and have fun doing it.

But in order to do *any* of that, you need revenue first. These are
businesses, not non-profit charities.