"Monty Hall" wrote in message
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These broadcasters are insane to do things like HD/IBOC to restrict and
limit their already-dwindling audiences. They should be working to
INCREASE their coverage area and listenership; not reduce it.

The only coverage that counts is in their home markets.

DX listeners don't count in the business model.


They don't count because these days some bean counter doesn't care. At one
time, they were quite important, and a large number of high power stations
programmed specifically for them. KWJJ and KGA used to have nighttime
programming aimed specifically at coast to coast truckers and sold time to
businesses that catered to them, such as truck stops, oil companies, etc.
WSM still figures in distant listeners for the Grand Ole' Opry. Nearly
every station had someone on their staff that would answer signal reports.

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
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"Monty Hall" wrote in message
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These broadcasters are insane to do things like HD/IBOC to restrict and
limit their already-dwindling audiences. They should be working to
INCREASE their coverage area and listenership; not reduce it.

The only coverage that counts is in their home markets.

DX listeners don't count in the business model.


They don't count because these days some bean counter doesn't care. At
one time, they were quite important, and a large number of high power
stations programmed specifically for them. [/quote]

True. If you look at the ads in Broadcasting Magazine in the 40's, many
talked about mail count from many, many states.

After TV "arrived," meaning the two to three years after the freeze was
lifted, radio at night was barely listened to. So skywave reception (or DXX
reception) became of little use as there were few listeners and fewer
advertisers.

With the advent of Top 40 and rock and roll, a few stations like KOMA and
WKBW and such, in smaller markets but with big night signals, got the teen
audience across large areas. As FM took those listeners and more stations
came on the air, that, too, disappeared.

By the early 70's, there was no use for night skywave in most of America.
After docket 80-90 and with the coming of the Internet, there is totally no
use today.

KWJJ and KGA used to have nighttime
programming aimed specifically at coast to coast truckers and sold time to
businesses that catered to them, such as truck stops, oil companies, etc.

By the late 70's, none of these shows made money.... although stations
continued to carry them since they got good programming on a barter basis.
Most overnight shows didn't take the barter spots in overnight, either. Even
today, to get Coast To Coast you have to run daytime barter spots. Nobody
wants overnight ad time.... even in the big markets.

WSM still figures in distant listeners for the Grand Ole' Opry.

WSM, today, is the the lowest billing of the former 1A and 1B clears. It is
not even in the top 15 locally, with an AM preaching and teaching religious
station outbilling it, even.

Nearly
every station had someone on their staff that would answer signal reports.

That has not been true since the late 60's... even in the early 60's, about
a third of DX reports had to be followed up with a second or third request
to get a verification.

"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

After TV "arrived," meaning the two to three years after the freeze was
lifted, radio at night was barely listened to. So skywave reception (or
DXX
reception) became of little use as there were few listeners and fewer
advertisers.

That blatant lie
just goes to illustrate what an uninformed jerk you are

Evening listening, by the end of the 1955, was down to about 1/4 of the
daytime radio listening levels. While there are no national figures, looking
at a variety of local market reports supports this conclusion.

Add in the explosion of new stations in the decade after W.W. II, there was
less reason to listen to non-local stations at any time, and little reason
to listen to them at night.

David Eduardo wrote:


Evening listening, by the end of the 1955, was down to about 1/4 of the
daytime radio listening levels. While there are no national figures,
looking at a variety of local market reports supports this conclusion.

Add in the explosion of new stations in the decade after W.W. II, there
was less reason to listen to non-local stations at any time, and little
reason to listen to them at night.

That's nuts. Everybody routinely listened to whatever came in on their
radios at night, regardless of origin.

Light dimmers, band-splitting, coarse digital tuners, and 4 kHz
ceramic filters destroyed AM.

Don't you think it odd that you and your ilk whined for more stations
back in the '70s, and now that you have them, you whine 'cause nobody
can make any money?

"Dave" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:


Evening listening, by the end of the 1955, was down to about 1/4 of the
daytime radio listening levels. While there are no national figures,
looking at a variety of local market reports supports this conclusion.

Add in the explosion of new stations in the decade after W.W. II, there
was less reason to listen to non-local stations at any time, and little
reason to listen to them at night.

That's nuts. Everybody routinely listened to whatever came in on their
radios at night, regardless of origin.

No, they did not. When Top 40 began in 1952, it helped move most radio
listening to local radio stations. TV simply killed night listening to radio
over a period of only a few years.

Light dimmers, band-splitting, coarse digital tuners, and 4 kHz ceramic
filters destroyed AM.

No, FM did, once the FCC mandated the end to simulcasting in most cities in
1967.

Don't you think it odd that you and your ilk whined for more stations back
in the '70s, and now that you have them, you whine 'cause nobody can make
any money?

Nobody whined for more stations in the 70's. In fact, the number of viable
stations in each market virtually tripled in the 70's as all the full signal
FMs became competitive. That was disruptive enough to AM and the industry.
Docket 80-90 came at the very end of the 80's, and was a result of the FCC
not people wanting more stations... it was the direct outcome of the Bonita
Springs decision redefining major changes.

David Eduardo wrote:


No, they did not. When Top 40 began in 1952, it helped move most radio
listening to local radio stations. TV simply killed night listening to
radio over a period of only a few years.


You are talking about a certain brain-dead subset of the population that
is composed of people who are disgustingly easy to manipulate. They
watch whatever crap you feed them and buy whatever they are told to buy.
These are your choice demographic: the dumb asses.