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In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


No you have not thought it through. If you did you would come up with a
list of positive and negative outcomes. You would have to look at these
lists and determine the benefits and costs. You would then pick a course
of action based on short and long term benefits versus costs.

You have not done this or thought it through and just gave a distracting
answer. Good luck to you on that.

Like I said, I was in Houston for a Category 3 Hurricane. The splices
are still on the wires, from where the un-maintained trees shredded
them. They have since been very proactive regarding preventative
maintenance of right-of-way encroachment.


Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.

Now answer the question you originally posed.

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Telamon wrote:


Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.

Now answer the question you originally posed.


I said you either bury the power lines or trim the trees. Doing nothing
because it may be a long time before there's a storm is gambling with
people's lives.

We used to be better than that. We are a mediocre second-rate ********
country nowadays.
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dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


Which has naught to do with the question of overhead VS underground
power lines.

Now answer the question you originally posed.


I said you either bury the power lines or trim the trees. Doing nothing
because it may be a long time before there's a storm is gambling with
people's lives.

We used to be better than that. We are a mediocre second-rate ********
country nowadays.


OK so you refuse to look at the cost/benefit analysis of overhead lines
verses underground and just want to baselessly argue the point that
underground is a wiser decision. I just wanted to understand your point.

Apparently you want to do the same thing for the amount of tree trimming
that "should" be done.

You should be on the obomination team dictating how we all should be
living our lives as I'm sure you could do a better job than any of us
are doing.

I don't know about you but I'm wondering when my Federal and state of
Cale-forn-na tax refund checks will show up.

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Telamon wrote:


OK so you refuse to look at the cost/benefit analysis of overhead lines
verses underground and just want to baselessly argue the point that
underground is a wiser decision. I just wanted to understand your point.

Apparently you want to do the same thing for the amount of tree trimming
that "should" be done.

You should be on the obomination team dictating how we all should be
living our lives as I'm sure you could do a better job than any of us
are doing.

I don't know about you but I'm wondering when my Federal and state of
Cale-forn-na tax refund checks will show up.


Cost/benefit analysis is no way to deal with people's essential
services. That is a slippery slope that invariably ends with people dying.

I am neutral on Mr. Obama, but I have seen nothing indicating that he
plans to tell anyone how to live. It is quite a stretch to equate me
stating that disasters are made worse by inaction, to a desire to
micromanage strangers' lives.

People who overpay their taxes all year and then get refunds are morons.
I will cut the state a check, like I do every year. Do you enjoy
loaning money (interest free) to your hero Arnold?
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Trees don't grow on their "plant." They grow along the right of way.
Utilities have trimming programs, but if they trimmed to the degree
needed in a major storm, entire cities would protest. You can't prepare
for everything.


Why would they protest?


The degree of trimming needed to protect against every contingency would
leave little more than the trunk.

Not trimming trees around power lines is false
economy. It will cost more in the long run.


No, preventing once in a lifetime occurrences every year is always more
expensive.

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David Eduardo wrote:


Trees don't grow on their "plant." They grow along the right of way.
Utilities have trimming programs, but if they trimmed to the degree
needed in a major storm, entire cities would protest. You can't
prepare for everything.


Why would they protest?


The degree of trimming needed to protect against every contingency would
leave little more than the trunk.

Not trimming trees around power lines is false
economy. It will cost more in the long run.


No, preventing once in a lifetime occurrences every year is always more
expensive.


How many people freezing to death is acceptable in your twisted world?

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No, preventing once in a lifetime occurrences every year is always more
expensive.


And freezing rain happens every winter.
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In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:


OK so you refuse to look at the cost/benefit analysis of overhead lines
verses underground and just want to baselessly argue the point that
underground is a wiser decision. I just wanted to understand your point.

Apparently you want to do the same thing for the amount of tree trimming
that "should" be done.

You should be on the obomination team dictating how we all should be
living our lives as I'm sure you could do a better job than any of us
are doing.

I don't know about you but I'm wondering when my Federal and state of
Cale-forn-na tax refund checks will show up.


Cost/benefit analysis is no way to deal with people's essential
services. That is a slippery slope that invariably ends with people dying.


Wow, that's quite a non-answer. Cost/benefit has nothing to do with
people dying or not, it has to do with the best use of money and effort.

I am neutral on Mr. Obama, but I have seen nothing indicating that he
plans to tell anyone how to live. It is quite a stretch to equate me
stating that disasters are made worse by inaction, to a desire to
micromanage strangers' lives.


The obominanator is willing to have government manage your life to the
extent he can make it possible.

People who overpay their taxes all year and then get refunds are morons.
I will cut the state a check, like I do every year. Do you enjoy
loaning money (interest free) to your hero Arnold?


If you cut a check every year and you are more than 10% off you will be
paying another assessment.

I try to have my tax deductions keep pace with my obligations but things
change throughout the year. My tax guy was worth way more than his fee
this year.

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