ka6uup wrote:

“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they
only are based
on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not
include, for
example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher
at the Institute of

This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar output
and orbit.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ans-copenhagen

On Mar 10, 8:58*am, dave wrote:
ka6uup wrote:
“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they
only are based
on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not
include, for
example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher
at the Institute of

This is false. *The models include long-term variations in solar output
and orbit.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...n-emissions-oc...


- But was this study conducted by a Democrat or a Republican ?

and are they or are they NOT a

member in good standing of the NRA ?

-

In article
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wrote:

On Mar 10, 8:58*am, dave wrote:
ka6uup wrote:
³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results
at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of

This is false. *The models include long-term variations in solar
output and orbit.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...on-emissions-o
c...


- But was this study conducted by a Democrat or a Republican ?

and are they or are they NOT a

member in good standing of the NRA ?

You want the political view huh. It's real simple. The liberal elite get
to use whatever energy resources they want when they want it BUT NOT YOU.

YOU must conserve energy. You must give up the warm house in the winter
and the air conditioning in the summer. You must give up or limit the
use of your car. You must spend money on expensive solar collection
systems. You must have the noisy windmill in your backyard.

None of this applies to the liberal elite though. They get a pass.

What a bunch of BS. Anyone that believes this man made global warming
crap should have their head examined.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of

This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar
output and orbit.

Baloney, this is in the money. The UN panel are a bunch of unmitigated
twits.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ans-copenhagen

More BS. This is not science but alarmism. Congratulations on being
suckered one more time.

Realistic models do not support man made global warming period. Al Gore
is the biggest moron on the face of the earth.

You get an F in science.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of

This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar output
and orbit.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ns-oceans-cope
nhagen

Dave, get a grip. Do you think these model work? Well, they don't. They
break with any kind of tweaking the modelers come up with. Not working
means they can't predict with them.

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Telamon
Ventura, California