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dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of

This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar output
and orbit.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ns-oceans-cope
nhagen

Dave, get a grip. Do you think these model work? Well, they don't. They
break with any kind of tweaking the modelers come up with. Not working
means they can't predict with them.

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Telamon
Ventura, California