U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

ka6uup wrote:

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...b-bd9faf4dcdb7

http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

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heatwave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...gs&ContentReco
rd_id=2674e64f-802a-23ad-490b-bd9faf4dcdb7

http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics

The two main things affecting earths climate is the sun and small
changes in the thermal conductivity of the solar system. What exists
between the earth and sun is not a perfect vacuum but one with solar
ejecta and dust in it. Some of the dust is from outside the solar
system.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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heatwave wrote:
ka6uup wrote:

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...b-bd9faf4dcdb7


http://gristmill.grist.org/skeptics


“The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to
others. It doesn’t
have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been
given on
scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists.”
- Indian geologist
Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the
UN-supported
International Year of the Planet.
“So far, real measurements give no ground for concern about a
catastrophic future
warming.” - Scientist Dr. Jarl R. Ahlbeck, a chemical engineer at Abo
Akademi
University in Finland, author of 200 scientific publications and former
Greenpeace
member.
“Anyone who claims that the debate is over and the conclusions are firm
has a
fundamentally unscientific approach to one of the most momentous issues
of our time.”
- Solar physicist Dr. Pal Brekke, senior advisor to the Norwegian Space
Centre in Oslo.
Brekke has published more than 40 peer-reviewed scientific articles on
the sun and solar
interaction with the Earth.
“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they
only are based
on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not
include, for
example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher
at the Institute of
Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico
“It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is
only a fringe of
scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” - U.S
Government
Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research
Division of
NOAA.
“Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually
have little impact,
as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the
worldwide
scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the
Department of Chemical
and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.
“After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing
skeptics
to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician
Dr. William M. Briggs,
who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the
American
Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an
Associate Editor of
Monthly Weather Review.
“The Kyoto theorists have put the cart before the horse. It is global
warming that triggers
higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, not the other way
round…A large
number of critical documents submitted at the 1995 U.N. conference in
Madrid vanished
without a trace. As a result, the discussion was one-sided and heavily
biased, and the
U.N. declared global warming to be a scientific fact,” Andrei Kapitsa, a
Russian
geographer and Antarctic ice core researcher.
5
“I am convinced that the current alarm over carbon dioxide is
mistaken...Fears about
man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good
science.” -
Award Winning Physicist Dr. Will Happer, Professor at the Department of
Physics at
Princeton University and Former Director of Energy Research at the
Department of
Energy, who has published over 200 scientific papers, and is a fellow of
the American
Physical Society, The American Association for the Advancement of
Science, and the
National Academy of Sciences.
“Nature's regulatory instrument is water vapor: more carbon dioxide
leads to less
moisture in the air, keeping the overall GHG content in accord with the
necessary
balance conditions.” – Prominent Hungarian Physicist and environmental
researcher Dr.
Miklós Zágoni reversed his view of man-made warming and is now a
skeptic. Zágoni was
once Hungary’s most outspoken supporter of the Kyoto Protocol.
“For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand
that the planet
is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr.
David Gee
the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International
Geological Congress who
has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala
University in
Sweden.
“Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly
found myself
solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for
explaining climate
changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who
reversed his belief in
man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN
IPCC
committee.
“The quantity of CO2 we produce is insignificant in terms of the natural
circulation
between air, water and soil... I am doing a detailed assessment of the
UN IPCC reports
and the Summaries for Policy Makers, identifying the way in which the
Summaries have
distorted the science.” - South Afican Nuclear Physicist and Chemical
Engineer Dr. Philip
Lloyd, a UN IPCC co-coordinating lead author who has authored over 150
refereed
publications.
“Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from
promoting
warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” -
Atmospheric
physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and
Coordination Center in

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

ka6uup wrote:

“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they
only are based
on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not
include, for
example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher
at the Institute of

This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar output
and orbit.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ans-copenhagen

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 InternationalScientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

On Mar 10, 8:58*am, dave wrote:
ka6uup wrote:
“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they
only are based
on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not
include, for
example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher
at the Institute of

This is false. *The models include long-term variations in solar output
and orbit.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...n-emissions-oc...


- But was this study conducted by a Democrat or a Republican ?

and are they or are they NOT a

member in good standing of the NRA ?

-

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

In article ,
dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of

This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar
output and orbit.

Baloney, this is in the money. The UN panel are a bunch of unmitigated
twits.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ans-copenhagen

More BS. This is not science but alarmism. Congratulations on being
suckered one more time.

Realistic models do not support man made global warming period. Al Gore
is the biggest moron on the face of the earth.

You get an F in science.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

In article
,
wrote:

On Mar 10, 8:58*am, dave wrote:
ka6uup wrote:
³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results
at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of

This is false. *The models include long-term variations in solar
output and orbit.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...on-emissions-o
c...


- But was this study conducted by a Democrat or a Republican ?

and are they or are they NOT a

member in good standing of the NRA ?

You want the political view huh. It's real simple. The liberal elite get
to use whatever energy resources they want when they want it BUT NOT YOU.

YOU must conserve energy. You must give up the warm house in the winter
and the air conditioning in the summer. You must give up or limit the
use of your car. You must spend money on expensive solar collection
systems. You must have the noisy windmill in your backyard.

None of this applies to the liberal elite though. They get a pass.

What a bunch of BS. Anyone that believes this man made global warming
crap should have their head examined.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of
This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar
output and orbit.

Baloney, this is in the money. The UN panel are a bunch of unmitigated
twits.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...sions-oceans-c
openhagen

More BS. This is not science but alarmism. Congratulations on being
suckered one more time.

Realistic models do not support man made global warming period. Al Gore
is the biggest moron on the face of the earth.

You get an F in science.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/629/629/7074601.stm

This is BS. It is not factual. This is no different than the Al Gore
temperature / CO chart where he misleads the audience about cause and
effect. The IPCC is in the business of selling Kool-Aid to further the
UN global power agenda.

This is all such nonsense. We are actually headed toward global cooling
not warming.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

In article ,
dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of

This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar output
and orbit.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ns-oceans-cope
nhagen

Dave, get a grip. Do you think these model work? Well, they don't. They
break with any kind of tweaking the modelers come up with. Not working
means they can't predict with them.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of
This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar
output and orbit.

Baloney, this is in the money. The UN panel are a bunch of unmitigated
twits.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...sions-oceans-c
openhagen

More BS. This is not science but alarmism. Congratulations on being
suckered one more time.

Realistic models do not support man made global warming period. Al Gore
is the biggest moron on the face of the earth.

You get an F in science.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/629/629/7074601.stm

This is BS. It is not factual. This is no different than the Al Gore
temperature / CO chart where he misleads the audience about cause and
effect. The IPCC is in the business of selling Kool-Aid to further the
UN global power agenda.

This is all such nonsense. We are actually headed toward global cooling
not warming.

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to rise.
Oops.

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

MNMikeW wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of
This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar
output and orbit.
Baloney, this is in the money. The UN panel are a bunch of unmitigated
twits.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...sions-oceans-c
openhagen
More BS. This is not science but alarmism. Congratulations on being
suckered one more time.

Realistic models do not support man made global warming period. Al Gore
is the biggest moron on the face of the earth.

You get an F in science.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/629/629/7074601.stm
This is BS. It is not factual. This is no different than the Al Gore
temperature / CO chart where he misleads the audience about cause and
effect. The IPCC is in the business of selling Kool-Aid to further the
UN global power agenda.

This is all such nonsense. We are actually headed toward global cooling
not warming.

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to rise.
Oops.


10 years? That's silly. You cannot deduce a trend from 10 years of
data. Remove 1998 and then calculate. 1998 was an extra hot year, due
to ocean currents.

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

"dave" wrote in message
...
MNMikeW wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of
This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar
output and orbit.
Baloney, this is in the money. The UN panel are a bunch of unmitigated
twits.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...sions-oceans-c
openhagen
More BS. This is not science but alarmism. Congratulations on being
suckered one more time.

Realistic models do not support man made global warming period. Al
Gore
is the biggest moron on the face of the earth.

You get an F in science.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/629/629/7074601.stm
This is BS. It is not factual. This is no different than the Al Gore
temperature / CO chart where he misleads the audience about cause and
effect. The IPCC is in the business of selling Kool-Aid to further the
UN global power agenda.

This is all such nonsense. We are actually headed toward global cooling
not warming.

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to
rise. Oops.
10 years? That's silly. You cannot deduce a trend from 10 years of data.
Remove 1998 and then calculate. 1998 was an extra hot year, due to ocean
currents.

You cannot deduce a trend from crappy computer models either.

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 InternationalScien...
 

To Obama and his cronies From The OathKeepers: What orders The US
Military will not obey
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=258556
cuhulin

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scien...
 

wrote:
To Obama and his cronies From The OathKeepers: What orders The US
Military will not obey
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=258556
cuhulin


"So help me God" is not part of any official oath. It is traditionally
added by mouth breathers and other cowardly dullards.

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 InternationalScien...
 

Obama's Approval Reaches A New LOW
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=258558

How LOWWWWWWWW can he GO?
cuhulin

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In article ,
dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:
"Telamon" wrote in message
..
.
In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

ka6uup wrote:

³The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because
they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at
scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.² -
Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of
This is false. The models include long-term variations in solar
output and orbit.
Baloney, this is in the money. The UN panel are a bunch of unmitigated
twits.

This, unfortunately, is not false:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...missions-ocean
s-c
openhagen
More BS. This is not science but alarmism. Congratulations on being
suckered one more time.

Realistic models do not support man made global warming period. Al Gore
is the biggest moron on the face of the earth.

You get an F in science.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/629/629/7074601.stm
This is BS. It is not factual. This is no different than the Al Gore
temperature / CO chart where he misleads the audience about cause and
effect. The IPCC is in the business of selling Kool-Aid to further the
UN global power agenda.

This is all such nonsense. We are actually headed toward global cooling
not warming.

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to rise.
Oops.


10 years? That's silly. You cannot deduce a trend from 10 years of
data. Remove 1998 and then calculate. 1998 was an extra hot year, due
to ocean currents.

It's not silly, he is right.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to rise.

Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to rise.

Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).

They melt every year in the summer time Billy. It's nothing new or
different. Can you guess what happens in the winter time? I'll bet you
can.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

MNMikeW wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
m...
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to
rise.
Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).
They melt every year in the summer time Billy. It's nothing new or
different. Can you guess what happens in the winter time? I'll bet you
can.

I suggest you scroll down about half way. They have pictures.

http://nsidc.org/sotc/sea_ice.html


http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...506084437.aspx



http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/faq.html#antarctic

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to rise.

Billy Burpelson wrote:

Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).

Telamon wrote:

They melt every year in the summer time Billy. It's nothing new or
different. Can you guess what happens in the winter time? I'll bet you
can.

Yes indeed, there are seasonal changes. Congratulations on your
intuitive grasp of...the obvious.

Unfortunately, if you had done even the tiniest bit of homework, you
would realize that there has been a huge loss of ice, glaciers pulled
back for -miles-, waaay more than can be accounted for by seasonal changes.

But, hey, that's OK. We here realize that you've never been one to let
facts get in your way.

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

MNMikeW wrote:

http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...506084437.aspx

Well now, there's a reliable source: the "Business and Media Institute"?
What kind of *scientific* organization is that? What scientific proof do
they offer other than saying "it ain't so"?

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 InternationalScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

Carter, K8VT, posing as "Billy Burpelson", wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:

http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...506084437.aspx

Well now, there's a reliable source: the "Business and Media Institute"?
What kind of *scientific* organization is that? What scientific proof do
they offer other than saying "it ain't so"?

Carter, you are a climate change k00k!

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

MNMikeW wrote:



Sensor drift, google it.


Give it up. You are a tool of entrenched carbon industries.

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...
MNMikeW wrote:

http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...506084437.aspx
Well now, there's a reliable source: the "Business and Media Institute"?
What kind of *scientific* organization is that? What scientific proof do
they offer other than saying "it ain't so"?

MNMikeW wrote:

Shoot the messenger when you have nothing. Typical lib.

Nothing to do with "shoot the messenger". Or lib. Or conservative.

It is a scientific topic and therefore a perfectly legitimate question
to ask what their scientific qualifications are.

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"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...
MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to
rise.
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).
Telamon wrote:

They melt every year in the summer time Billy. It's nothing new or
different. Can you guess what happens in the winter time? I'll bet you
can.
Yes indeed, there are seasonal changes. Congratulations on your intuitive
grasp of...the obvious.

Unfortunately, if you had done even the tiniest bit of homework, you would
realize that there has been a huge loss of ice, glaciers pulled back
for -miles-, waaay more than can be accounted for by seasonal changes.

But, hey, that's OK. We here realize that you've never been one to let
facts get in your way.

MNMikeW wrote:

Sensor drift, google it.

Sensor drift, shmenser drift. What does that have do with the glaciers
that have receded for miles? You don't need any stinkin' sensors, just a
long tape measure... :-)

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

In article ,
dave wrote:

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to
rise.
Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).

They melt every year in the summer time Billy. It's nothing new or
different. Can you guess what happens in the winter time? I'll bet you
can.


I suggest you scroll down about half way. They have pictures.

http://nsidc.org/sotc/sea_ice.html

OK so what?
Ice decreases in some places and increases in other places so the point
is what?
And this proves "warming" is caused by man how?

And I guess you missed the news on how this data has been under
reporting the amount of ice.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to
rise.

Billy Burpelson wrote:

Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).

Telamon wrote:

They melt every year in the summer time Billy. It's nothing new or
different. Can you guess what happens in the winter time? I'll bet you
can.

Yes indeed, there are seasonal changes. Congratulations on your
intuitive grasp of...the obvious.

I grew up on the east coast so I know about the seasons.

Unfortunately, if you had done even the tiniest bit of homework, you
would realize that there has been a huge loss of ice, glaciers pulled
back for -miles-, waaay more than can be accounted for by seasonal changes.

I have spent hours reading about this and you are buying the global
warming Kool-aid but hey I'm not surprised.

But, hey, that's OK. We here realize that you've never been one to let
facts get in your way.

Facts are data. Data by itself is useless. You have to understand what
you are looking at to draw conclusions. You have not done this. Instead
you have allowed other people to draw conclusions for you because of
some personal reason. That reason could be that you are just plain lazy
or it could be you are to dull. Whatever the reason I suggest you apply
a little more personal effort on the topic instead of making the usual
ignorant post.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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In article ,
"MNMikeW" wrote:

"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...
MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to
rise.

Billy Burpelson wrote:

Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).

Telamon wrote:

They melt every year in the summer time Billy. It's nothing new or
different. Can you guess what happens in the winter time? I'll bet you
can.

Yes indeed, there are seasonal changes. Congratulations on your intuitive
grasp of...the obvious.

Unfortunately, if you had done even the tiniest bit of homework, you would
realize that there has been a huge loss of ice, glaciers pulled back
for -miles-, waaay more than can be accounted for by seasonal changes.

But, hey, that's OK. We here realize that you've never been one to let
facts get in your way.


Sensor drift, google it.

Now that wasn't hard to find now was it. No excuse to the global warming
crowd not to find it.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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In article ,
dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:



Sensor drift, google it.


Give it up. You are a tool of entrenched carbon industries.

Grow up.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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Telamon wrote:

That reason could be that you are just plain lazy
or it could be you are to dull. Whatever the reason I suggest you apply
a little more personal effort on the topic instead of making the usual
ignorant post.

"to [sic] dull" and "ignorant post" and yet YOU are still totally
clueless about the use of "to" vs. "too".

Dammit, I've warned you about this befo If you are going to accuse
others of being dull and ignorant, fair enough, but it would behoove you
to get your own house in order first; otherwise you are demonstrating
YOUR dullness and ignorance.

Oh, the irony!! It's just to, too much. :-)

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In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Telamon wrote:

That reason could be that you are just plain lazy
or it could be you are to dull. Whatever the reason I suggest you apply
a little more personal effort on the topic instead of making the usual
ignorant post.

"to [sic] dull" and "ignorant post" and yet YOU are still totally
clueless about the use of "to" vs. "too".

Dammit, I've warned you about this befo If you are going to accuse
others of being dull and ignorant, fair enough, but it would behoove you
to get your own house in order first; otherwise you are demonstrating
YOUR dullness and ignorance.

Oh, the irony!! It's just to, too much. :-)

That's it from you? That's all you are capable of? Go correct english
papers then and get lost. What a loser.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...
MNMikeW wrote:

http://www.businessandmedia.org/arti...506084437.aspx
Well now, there's a reliable source: the "Business and Media Institute"?
What kind of *scientific* organization is that? What scientific proof do
they offer other than saying "it ain't so"?

MNMikeW wrote:

Shoot the messenger when you have nothing. Typical lib.

Nothing to do with "shoot the messenger". Or lib. Or conservative.

It is a scientific topic and therefore a perfectly legitimate question
to ask what their scientific qualifications are.

How about shoot the idiot? Let's make holes in Billy boy.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

"Billy Burpelson" wrote in message
...
MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to
rise.
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).
Telamon wrote:

They melt every year in the summer time Billy. It's nothing new or
different. Can you guess what happens in the winter time? I'll bet you
can.
Yes indeed, there are seasonal changes. Congratulations on your intuitive
grasp of...the obvious.

Unfortunately, if you had done even the tiniest bit of homework, you would
realize that there has been a huge loss of ice, glaciers pulled back
for -miles-, waaay more than can be accounted for by seasonal changes.

But, hey, that's OK. We here realize that you've never been one to let
facts get in your way.

MNMikeW wrote:

Sensor drift, google it.

Sensor drift, shmenser drift. What does that have do with the glaciers
that have receded for miles? You don't need any stinkin' sensors, just a
long tape measure... :-)

Sure thing Billy boy. You make all your decisions on bad data so who
cares? What receding glaciers are you talking about there Billy Boy?

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:


Sensor drift, google it.


Give it up. You are a tool of entrenched carbon industries.

Grow up.


I lived in Houston for 17 years, much of it as a news person. I know a
few things about how they operate on Louisiana Street.

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"dave" wrote in message
...
MNMikeW wrote:



Sensor drift, google it.
Give it up. You are a tool of entrenched carbon industries.

Whereas you are just a tool.

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"dave" wrote in message
...
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:


Sensor drift, google it.

Give it up. You are a tool of entrenched carbon industries.

Grow up.


I lived in Houston for 17 years, much of it as a news person. I know a
few things about how they operate on Louisiana Street.

The prostitutes or the pimps?

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MNMikeW wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
...
Telamon wrote:
In article ,
dave wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:

Sensor drift, google it.

Give it up. You are a tool of entrenched carbon industries.
Grow up.

I lived in Houston for 17 years, much of it as a news person. I know a
few things about how they operate on Louisiana Street.

The prostitutes or the pimps?


The GOBs

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

MNMikeW wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
...
MNMikeW wrote:


Sensor drift, google it.
Give it up. You are a tool of entrenched carbon industries.

Whereas you are just a tool.



Speaking of tools, I hope that you didn't donate to the Coleman campaign
using a credit card. Sorry SOB didn't let anyone know that their data
had been compromised. RIP - Coleman!

JB

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John Barnard wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:
"dave" wrote in message
...
MNMikeW wrote:


Sensor drift, google it.
Give it up. You are a tool of entrenched carbon industries.

Whereas you are just a tool.



Speaking of tools, I hope that you didn't donate to the Coleman campaign
using a credit card. Sorry SOB didn't let anyone know that their data
had been compromised. RIP - Coleman!

Never listen to dumbass Canucks, no matter what dey say!

Da dxAce never done steer no one wrong!

U. S. Senate Minority Report: More Than 650 International ScientistsDissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
 

Telamon wrote:
In article ,
Billy Burpelson wrote:

MNMikeW wrote:

There has been no warming for last 10 years yet CO levels continue to
rise.
Billy Burpelson wrote:

Well, OK, no warming. If you say so...but then what would explain all
those glaciers and polar ice that is melting? Somebody used Photoshop
(tm) to doctor the hundreds of satellite and terrestrial pictures that
have been published over the last several years showing the melting? ALL
those pictures are fraudulent?

Also, I think you meant C02 (carbon dioxide), not CO (carbon monoxide).
Telamon wrote:

They melt every year in the summer time Billy. It's nothing new or
different. Can you guess what happens in the winter time? I'll bet you
can.
Yes indeed, there are seasonal changes. Congratulations on your
intuitive grasp of...the obvious.

I grew up on the east coast so I know about the seasons.

Unfortunately, if you had done even the tiniest bit of homework, you
would realize that there has been a huge loss of ice, glaciers pulled
back for -miles-, waaay more than can be accounted for by seasonal changes.

I have spent hours reading about this and you are buying the global
warming Kool-aid but hey I'm not surprised.

Selective reading, no doubt. You should not take so much pride in your
selection bias.



But, hey, that's OK. We here realize that you've never been one to let
facts get in your way.

Facts are data. Data by itself is useless. You have to understand what
you are looking at to draw conclusions.

In other words, you went on a data mining trip. GWB did that with Iraq
and he recanted later on. When can we expect your mea culpa?

You have not done this. Instead
you have allowed other people to draw conclusions for you because of
some personal reason. That reason could be that you are just plain lazy
or it could be you are to dull. Whatever the reason I suggest you apply
a little more personal effort on the topic instead of making the usual
ignorant post.


How goes your Obama BC conspiracy?

JB