On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses."

http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html

LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC -
they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills!

Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo?

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On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses."

http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html

LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC -
they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills!

Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo?

HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most.

Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night,
WABC an WJR.

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:42:11 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:



HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than
most.

That's nice. Would profit pressed pennypinchers keep that light on if it
weren't required by the insurance company or the government?


Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night,
WABC an WJR.


That's odd. I had the impression that IBOC interference had no
significant effect beyond the FCC protected contour.

I'd expect there was a significant reason for turning the noisemakers off
at night, as the costs of cycling the IBOC transmitters would be more
than the costs of the electricity. That is, if they intend to repair
them as they break down.

Frank Dresser

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On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:42:11 -0700, David Eduardo wrote:



HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than
most.

That's nice. Would profit pressed pennypinchers keep that light on if it
weren't required by the insurance company or the government?


Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night,
WABC an WJR.


That's odd. I had the impression that IBOC interference had no
significant effect beyond the FCC protected contour.


That's what IBOC shills would have you believe, but it has been demonstrated
many times now that this is not the case, and that significant sideband
interference from the IBOC sidebands is caused via skywave at nighttime.
Please note that it takes a significantly smaller signal to cause
interference than it does to actually HEAR the signal itself. Because of
this, those IBOC sidebands can and do interfere with stations in an area
where those same sidebands would not be copyable.

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:15:36 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote:




That's what IBOC shills would have you believe, but it has been
demonstrated many times now that this is not the case, and that
significant sideband interference from the IBOC sidebands is caused via
skywave at nighttime. Please note that it takes a significantly smaller
signal to cause interference than it does to actually HEAR the signal
itself. Because of this, those IBOC sidebands can and do interfere with
stations in an area where those same sidebands would not be copyable.

True, and add to that the directional effect of the typical AM loopstick
antenna. For example, a person might be listening in the evening to,
say, WLS with the station in the antenna's near null area. This is no
problem if the signal strength is good and the interference is low. But
the antenna in that position is likely to be near broadside to the WCBS
transmitter and the listener will get the extra noise.

Frank Dresser

On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses."

http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html

LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC -
they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills!

Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo?

HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most.

Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night,
WABC an WJR.

Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference
is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or
WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective
contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night.

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On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses."
http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html
LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC -
they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills!
Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo?
HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than most.

Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night,
WABC an WJR.

Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference
is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or
WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective
contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night.

That's CBS. They don't care about us rural listeners.

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On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses."

http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html

LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC -
they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills!

Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo?

HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than
most.

Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night,
WABC an WJR.

Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference
is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or
WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective
contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night.

To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave
useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA
have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them.
Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas
right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD
on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day
listening, the decision is relatively simple.

On Mar 13, 11:58 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 13, 1:42 am, "David Eduardo" wrote:
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On Mar 12, 5:50 pm, PocketRadio wrote:
"Rumor: Citadel is turning off HD to save (electric) expenses."

http://lists.radiolists.net/pipermai...ch/086066.html

LMFAO! Expect the rest of he jammers and scammers to turn off IBOC -
they are all going under and can't even afford their electrical bills!

Hope it's true. What do you think Eduardo?

HD hardly uses any electrical. A sidelight on a tower uses more than
most.

Citadel turned of HD on a couple of AMs which were interfering at night,
WABC an WJR.

Eduardo -YDF - You can't have it both ways - Either the interference
is a significant problem on AM or it's not. How come WBZ or KDKA or
WHAM or WWVA keep their hd on full time? I'm within the protective
contour of KDKA and WBZ interferes with them at night.

To stations, the issue is not the protected contour but the groundwave
useful coverage area and the dimensions of the Arbitron metro. WHAM and WWVA
have no interference in their metros or areas immediately surrounding them.
Neither do KDKA and WBZ. But apparently, WJR and WABC had problems in areas
right at the edge of the metros, and decided it was not worth keeping the HD
on at night. Since night radio listening is only a tiny part of day
listening, the decision is relatively simple.

Eduardo - You really don't know what your talking about. WBZ is a
times as strong or stronger than KDKA's groundwave in their local
area. This is not debatable. WBZ hash can be heard under KDKA most
nights. Why either of them is transmitting it is a mystery to me.
The only thing I can figure is they've bought into the idiotic notion
that people will eventually come if they keep pushing it. This was a
decision based on wishful marketing and foolish station owner/
operators not interference - of which there is plenty.