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leonox1 wrote:
On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson wrote: leonox1 wrote: Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany, etc. Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please retake World History 101. LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National Socialists" That name was a cynical absurdity. No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty. |
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On Mar 22, 1:30*pm, dave wrote:
leonox1 wrote: On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson wrote: leonox1 wrote: Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany, etc. Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please retake World History 101. LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National Socialists" That name was a cynical absurdity. *No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty. Oh really! And you know this, how? You were there? What books did you read? Come on Dr DaviD, the great Dr. DaviD. Walk accross my swimming pool. You can do it on your head! |
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On Mar 22, 1:30*pm, dave wrote:
leonox1 wrote: On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson wrote: leonox1 wrote: Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany, etc. Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please retake World History 101. LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National Socialists" That name was a cynical absurdity. *No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty. LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist. You can't be much leftist than that. |
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![]() "leonox1" wrote in message ... On Mar 22, 1:30 pm, dave wrote: leonox1 wrote: On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson wrote: leonox1 wrote: Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany, etc. Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please retake World History 101. LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National Socialists" That name was a cynical absurdity. No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty. LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist. You can't be much leftist than that. Hitler was indeed a fascist. He was no socialist. He hated socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as soon as he had what he wanted out of them. |
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Brenda Ann wrote:
Hitler was indeed a fascist. He was no socialist. He hated socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as soon as he had what he wanted out of them. The Russians were going to attack very soon. It pays to get a head start and it's better for morale. The division of Poland was a convenience for both of them. I've recently read the Russians admitted to framing the Nazis for the mass murder of thousands of Polish officers. Note that Germany had war declared on it by the US as soon as it couldn't afford to make the interest payments to the New York bankers. mike |
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m II wrote:
Brenda Ann wrote: Hitler was indeed a fascist. He was no socialist. He hated socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as soon as he had what he wanted out of them. The Russians were going to attack very soon. It pays to get a head start and it's better for morale. The division of Poland was a convenience for both of them. I've recently read the Russians admitted to framing the Nazis for the mass murder of thousands of Polish officers. Note that Germany had war declared on it by the US as soon as it couldn't afford to make the interest payments to the New York bankers. mike Prescott Bush's early business efforts tended to fail. He married the daughter of a very rich man named George Herbert Walker (the guy with the compound at Kennebunkport, Maine, that now belongs to the Bush family, and the origin of Dubya's middle initial). Walker installed Prescott Bush as an executive in Thyssen and Flick. From then on, Prescott's business dealings went better, and he entered politics. Now, the name Thyssen comes from a German named Fritz Thyssen, major financial backer of the rise of Adolph Hitler. Thyssen was referred to in the New York Herald-Tribune as "Hitler's Angel." During the 1930s and early 1940s, and even as late as 1951, Prescott Bush was involved in business dealings with Thyssen, and was inevitably aware of both Thyssen's political activities and the fact that the companies involved were financially benefiting the nation of Germany. In addition, the companies Prescott Bush profited from included one engaged in mining operations in Poland using slave labor from Auschwitz. Two former slave laborers have sued the U.S. government and the heirs of Prescott Bush for $40 billion. Until the United States entered World War II it was legal for Americans to do business with Germany, but in late 1942 Prescott Bush's businesses interests were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act. Among those businesses involved was the Hamburg America Lines, for which Prescott Bush served as a manager. A Congressional committee, in a report called the McCormack-Dickstein Report, found that Hamburg America Lines had offered free passage to Germany for journalists willing to write favorably about the Nazis, and had brought Nazi sympathizers to America. (Is this starting to remind anyone of our current president's relationship to the freedom of the press?) The McCormack-Dickstein Committee was established to investigate a homegrown American fascist plot hatched in 1933. Here's how the BBC promoted its recent story: "Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen. The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression. Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy." Actually, if you listen to the 30-minute BBC story, there is not one word of so much as speculation as to why this story is so little known. I think a clue to the answer can be found by looking into why this BBC report has not led to any U.S. media outlets picking up the story this week. The BBC report provides a good account of the basic story. Some of the wealthiest men in America approached Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, beloved of many World War I veterans, many of them embittered by the government's treatment of them. Prescott Bush's group asked Butler to lead 500,000 veterans in a take-over of Washington and the White House. Butler refused and recounted the affair to the congressional committee. His account was corroborated in part by a number of witnesses, and the committee concluded that the plot was real. But the names of wealthy backers of the plot were blacked out in the committee's records, and nobody was prosecuted. According to the BBC, President Roosevelt cut a deal. He refrained from prosecuting some of the wealthiest men in America for treason. They agreed to end Wall Street's opposition to the New Deal. http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=389x3530365 |
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![]() "leonox1" wrote in message ... On Mar 22, 1:30 pm, dave wrote: leonox1 wrote: On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson wrote: leonox1 wrote: Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany, etc. Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please retake World History 101. LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National Socialists" That name was a cynical absurdity. No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty. LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist. You can't be much leftist than that. Brenda Ann wrote: Hitler was indeed a fascist. He was no socialist. He hated socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as soon as he had what he wanted out of them. Good luck, Brenda...several of us have tried to explain it several times, even including academic quotes as support, but he -just-doesn't-get-it. |
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On Mar 23, 9:00*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:
"leonox1" wrote in message ... On Mar 22, 1:30 pm, dave wrote: leonox1 wrote: On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson wrote: leonox1 wrote: Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany, etc. Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please retake World History 101. LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National Socialists" That name was a cynical absurdity. No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty. LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist. You can't be much leftist than that. Hitler was indeed a fascist. *He was no socialist. He hated socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as soon as he had what he wanted out of them. Oh I see. Hitler could not be a socialist because he was a facist.And the Nazi part didn't call themselves "National Socialists" or implement any socialist programs. Thanks for straightening that out. |
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On Mar 25, 6:00*pm, leonox1 wrote:
On Mar 23, 9:00*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote: "leonox1" wrote in message ... On Mar 22, 1:30 pm, dave wrote: leonox1 wrote: On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson wrote: leonox1 wrote: Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany, etc. Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please retake World History 101. LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National Socialists" That name was a cynical absurdity. No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty. LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist. You can't be much leftist than that. Hitler was indeed a fascist. *He was no socialist. He hated socialism/communism at it's core, and turned on his alliance with Russia as soon as he had what he wanted out of them. - Oh I see. Hitler could not be a socialist - because he was *a facist. - And the Nazi part didn't call themselves - "National Socialists" or implement any - socialist programs. - - Thanks for straightening that out. -from- Wikipedia The National Socialist German Workers' Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...E2%80%99_Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) Abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the NAZI Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP) Today we have 21st Century "Liberal-Fascism" and the Liberal-Fascist Agents of Social Change. -aka- The Democrat Party of the USA attempting to Socialize the Nation under their One Party Control with their Charismatic Leader {Totalitarian} Barack 'Hussein' Obama . -aka- Change You Can Believe In ! -aka- "The Third Way" via Fascism Authoritarian {Elitist} and Totalitarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_position http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism |
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In article 6101bf0b-0cce-482a-8b5e-8820f81496f1@
33g2000yqm.googlegroups.com, says... On Mar 22, 1:30*pm, dave wrote: leonox1 wrote: On Mar 22, 10:36 am, Billy Burpelson wrote: leonox1 wrote: Well, you know, it worked so well in Cube, The U.S.S.R., Nazi Germany, etc. Nazi Germany? They were fascists and FOUGHT socialism (Russia). Please retake World History 101. LOL - just what do you think fascism is? The Nazis were "National Socialists" That name was a cynical absurdity. *No one ever thought Hitler was a lefty. LOL! You're kidding right? Hilter was a facist, a socialist. You can't be much leftist than that. Yikes, you wingnuts (Left and right) are scaring me. -- BDK BDK Klan leader? Former #1 kOOk Magnet (Title passed to Larnrod!) NJJ CLUB #1 Shillmaster |
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