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Ibiquity IBOC - no hd radio upgrade needed!
I love it - In my area several stations that were transmitting
ibiquity digital junk have turned it off but they continue to have spots proclaiming “now in crystal clear HD”. Thus leading consumers to believe that they are hearing their radio station in “crystal clear HD” – with no hd radio upgrade needed! Talk about confusion! Good way to promote a product – let them think they already have it! Struble you’re a genius. Oh yea – hd radio is exciting! No need to buy one (if they were even available) because you already have one! |
Ibiquity IBOC - no hd radio upgrade needed!
On Apr 13, 11:24*am, wrote:
I love it - In my area several stations that were transmitting ibiquity digital junk have turned it off but they continue to have spots proclaiming “now in crystal clear HD”. *Thus leading consumers to believe that they are hearing their radio station in “crystal clear HD” – with no hd radio upgrade needed! Talk about confusion! *Good way to promote a product – let them think they already have it! *Struble you’re a genius. Oh yea – hd radio is exciting! * No need to buy one (if they were even available) because you already have one! The Alliance and their radio partners are to blame for the lack of or **** poor marketing! When buying a new car if you ask the sales person about digital radio, they'll sell you Satellite radio? When HD units start coming standard in new cars is when the rubber will hit the road.. consumers won't understand why the receiver flip flops between analog & digital. Enough blame can go around for everyone! |
Ibiquity IBOC - no hd radio upgrade needed!
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Ibiquity IBOC - no hd radio upgrade needed!
In article ,
dave wrote: wrote: I love it - In my area several stations that were transmitting ibiquity digital junk have turned it off but they continue to have spots proclaiming ³now in crystal clear HD². Thus leading consumers to believe that they are hearing their radio station in ³crystal clear HD² * with no hd radio upgrade needed! Talk about confusion! Good way to promote a product * let them think they already have it! Struble you¹re a genius. Oh yea * hd radio is exciting! No need to buy one (if they were even available) because you already have one! KFI, always Johnny-on-the-spot, just fired their IBOC up. Resulting in an annoying wubba-wubba sound whenever one of their sidebands fades a little (which is several times a minute). For some reason they sound especially bad on the AR7030+ now. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Ibiquity IBOC - no hd radio upgrade needed!
In article 49e96250.715640@chupacabra,
Bob Dobbs wrote: Telamon wrote: Well, how about analog? I have some hiss in there all the time and often times warbling rumble kind of noise. There's some hiss in analog but it goes away when the HD locks I haven't heard any rumbling but I'm over a hundred miles away down here on the border, and on the other side of the station from you so it could be something up your way. There are a few times when it seems I hear a transient echo but I think that the audio version of temporary digital corruption (QSB related?) like what would be seen as pixelation when it occurs on TV. The data is supposed to have error correction. Maybe the errors are exceeding the maximum rate. If the system is engineered correctly you should not be able to hear problems due to errors but what is done right in IBOC. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
Ibiquity IBOC - no hd radio upgrade needed!
On Apr 17, 10:26*pm, Bob Dobbs wrote:
Telamon wrote: Well, how about analog? I have some hiss in there all the time and often times warbling rumble kind of noise. There's some hiss in analog but it goes away when the HD locks I haven't heard any rumbling but I'm over a hundred miles away down here on the border, and on the other side of the station from you so it could be something up your way. There are a few times when it seems I hear a transient echo but I think that the audio version of temporary digital corruption (QSB related?) like what would be seen as pixelation when it occurs on TV. -- Operator Bob Echo Charlie 42 The hiss doesn't go away for people that don't have HD, oh, like someone listening on a AR7030+. It isn't that the radio sidebands are so wide that they are getting the HD noise (OK, signal) because you can select a narrow filter on the 7030. Not all IBOC stations have this problem, so it could be pilot error of the broadcast tech that set it up. Now the poor schmuck using a car radio, which doesn't have tight filters, has to put up with the IBOC noise. So they brickwall the high frequency content of the analog, add noise, then tell you it is for you own good. This is so nasty, Dick Cheney must be involved. |
Ibiquity IBOC - no hd radio upgrade needed!
Telamon wrote:
In article , dave wrote: wrote: I love it - In my area several stations that were transmitting ibiquity digital junk have turned it off but they continue to have spots proclaiming ³now in crystal clear HD². Thus leading consumers to believe that they are hearing their radio station in ³crystal clear HD² * with no hd radio upgrade needed! Talk about confusion! Good way to promote a product * let them think they already have it! Struble you¹re a genius. Oh yea * hd radio is exciting! No need to buy one (if they were even available) because you already have one! KFI, always Johnny-on-the-spot, just fired their IBOC up. Resulting in an annoying wubba-wubba sound whenever one of their sidebands fades a little (which is several times a minute). For some reason they sound especially bad on the AR7030+ now. Clear Channel being clueless as usual. |
Ibiquity IBOC - no hd radio upgrade needed!
Bob Dobbs wrote:
Telamon wrote: In article , dave wrote: wrote: I love it - In my area several stations that were transmitting ibiquity digital junk have turned it off but they continue to have spots proclaiming ³now in crystal clear HD². Thus leading consumers to believe that they are hearing their radio station in ³crystal clear HD² * with no hd radio upgrade needed! Talk about confusion! Good way to promote a product * let them think they already have it! Struble you¹re a genius. Oh yea * hd radio is exciting! No need to buy one (if they were even available) because you already have one! KFI, always Johnny-on-the-spot, just fired their IBOC up. Resulting in an annoying wubba-wubba sound whenever one of their sidebands fades a little (which is several times a minute). For some reason they sound especially bad on the AR7030+ now. They sound OK here, full HD, still takes a few moments to have the HD icon light up and the ID to appear in place of the frequency. Once the HD locks in it stays and the audio sounds better even during QSB. I'm in Canyon Country. Telemon's in Ventura. Where be you? I guess I could connect the 75' random wire to the BA Recepter HD and see if it'll lock. I've only ever heard one MW HD station (710 from North Hollywood). The Mexican under KFI seems to be absent lately. |
Ibiquity IBOC - no hd radio upgrade needed!
Telamon wrote:
Well, how about analog? I have some hiss in there all the time and often times warbling rumble kind of noise. It's very annoying and I wish they would turn that HD crap off. The IBOC signal is either side of the AM carrier. Each IBOC sideband is identical but out-of-phase with the other. The theory is the IBOC sidebands cancel each other out in your receiver. But if one sideband propagates better than the other (which is always the case once you get a few miles from the transmitter) the cancellation is not complete. This is when you hear the digital hash and the wubba-wubba sound. For those of us using a radio with selectable sideband synchronous detection, but unable to choose USB and LSB at the same time (like my Drake SW2) we are forced to listen in plain AM. Clear Channel has 2 full blown flamethrowers crippled by IBOC in California now. It's a shame. Citadel gets it. KGO and KKOH do not use IBOC at night. KFI and KFBK do, and it really diminishes their signals. |
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