On Sat, 09 May 2009 00:58:38 -0700, ~ RHF wrote:



Do you have an actual ? Citation ? [Link] with d'Eduardo's Name posted
with it . . .

Otherwise this appears to be another one of your made-up {fabricated}
posts about HD-Radio Failing ~ RHF
.

The message first appeared on the ba.broadcast group in a thread about
who owns or knows somebody who owns a HD radio.

Frank Dresser

On May 9, 9:18 am, Frank Dresser wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2009 00:58:38 -0700, ~ RHF wrote:

Do you have an actual ? Citation ? [Link] with d'Eduardo's Name posted
with it . . .

Otherwise this appears to be another one of your made-up {fabricated}
posts about HD-Radio Failing ~ RHF
.

The message first appeared on the ba.broadcast group in a thread about
who owns or knows somebody who owns a HD radio.

Frank Dresser

Hey frankie boy - If you're referring to me, I do own an HD radio. A
Sony XDR-S3HD which I purchased at a "clearance sale" for $49
(regularly $200 approx.) because they couldn't unload them fast
enough. No matter how you slice it HD radio is a disaster as
consumers are rightly showing.

On Sat, 09 May 2009 07:57:59 -0700, jimwilhelm wrote:



Hey frankie boy - If you're referring to me, I do own an HD radio. A
Sony XDR-S3HD which I purchased at a "clearance sale" for $49 (regularly
$200 approx.) because they couldn't unload them fast enough. No matter
how you slice it HD radio is a disaster as consumers are rightly
showing.

I wasn't referring to you at all. I wanted to point out to RHF that the
quote from David Eduardo did exist and was posted on another forum.

The Eduardo quote was inconsistent with David Eduardo's previous
statements on the quality of HD radio audio.

I'm glad you found a HD radio deal you're happy with, although I think
that's about triple what a HD radio is worth.

Frank Dresser

On May 9, 9:18�am, Frank Dresser wrote:
On Sat, 09 May 2009 00:58:38 -0700, ~ RHF wrote:

Do you have an actual ? Citation ? [Link] with d'Eduardo's Name posted
with it . . .

Otherwise this appears to be another one of your made-up {fabricated}
posts about HD-Radio Failing ~ RHF
�.

The message first appeared on the ba.broadcast group in a thread about
who owns or knows somebody who owns a HD radio.

Frank Dresser

From Eduardo:

What might have worked prior to the recession has lost any hope of
success
now; the potential of new models of receivers in an economy where
people
have all reduced discretionary spending is nil.

AM HD is and was a dreadful idea, and the best way to discover this is
to
buy an HD car radio and listen. To say it is annoying is an
understatement.

I had a belief in HD on FM. But there are no radios anywhere at
retail, and
scant few on the web. What could have worked were the economy robust
will be
like AM stereo... too late to meet market needs. In a few years,
stations
will have developed robust new alternative delivery options, and HD
won't be
one of them.

Like a relationship gone bad, it's hard to admit when something is
over. I
have pretty much decided that HD is not even worth the discussion time
any
more... with an exception being to hope that the 10 db increase in
digital
power on FM not be approved.

http://groups.google.com/group/ba.br...508d401547fbbc

PocketRadio wrote:
What might have worked prior to the recession has lost any hope
of success now; the potential of new models of receivers in an
economy where people have all reduced discretionary spending is
nil.

AM HD is and was a dreadful idea, and the best way to discover
this is to buy an HD car radio and listen. To say it is annoying
is an understatement.

I had a belief in HD on FM. But there are no radios anywhere at
retail, and scant few on the web. What could have worked were the
economy robust will be like AM stereo... too late to meet market
needs. In a few years, stations will have developed robust new
alternative delivery options, and HD won't be one of them.

Like a relationship gone bad, it's hard to admit when something
is over. I have pretty much decided that HD is not even worth the
discussion time any more... with an exception being to hope that
the 10 db increase in digital power on FM not be approved.




The AMers (and low-power FMers) would have been much better off
pushing for all licensees to get a digital channel in a dedicated
(non-mediumwave) digital band, where all the nighttime interference
would be nonexistent, where AMs and FMs and low-power stations and
high-power stations would have started over on an equal footing and
with absolutely perfect coverage of their markets.

But they were sold a bill of goods by the big chains, who wanted to
preserve the superiority of the facilities they had paid many
millions for -- superiority over the small station owner.

IBOC preserves the inferior -- some might say hopelessly, impossibly
inferior -- status of the small broadcaster. And that was its
primary purpose all along. In short, these small businessmen have
been totally snookered and hoodwinked.

Like the DX listener and the ordinary listener, they've been
unfairly cheated out of digital technology's promise and the
excellent service to the community they could have had with a
dedicated digital band.


With every good wish,


Kevin.
--
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

On May 9, 4:44 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
PocketRadio wrote:
What might have worked prior to the recession has lost any hope
of success now; the potential of new models of receivers in an
economy where people have all reduced discretionary spending is
nil.

AM HD is and was a dreadful idea, and the best way to discover
this is to buy an HD car radio and listen. To say it is annoying
is an understatement.

I had a belief in HD on FM. But there are no radios anywhere at
retail, and scant few on the web. What could have worked were the
economy robust will be like AM stereo... too late to meet market
needs. In a few years, stations will have developed robust new
alternative delivery options, and HD won't be one of them.

Like a relationship gone bad, it's hard to admit when something
is over. I have pretty much decided that HD is not even worth the
discussion time any more... with an exception being to hope that
the 10 db increase in digital power on FM not be approved.

The AMers (and low-power FMers) would have been much better off
pushing for all licensees to get a digital channel in a dedicated
(non-mediumwave) digital band, where all the nighttime interference
would be nonexistent, where AMs and FMs and low-power stations and
high-power stations would have started over on an equal footing and
with absolutely perfect coverage of their markets.

But they were sold a bill of goods by the big chains, who wanted to
preserve the superiority of the facilities they had paid many
millions for -- superiority over the small station owner.

IBOC preserves the inferior -- some might say hopelessly, impossibly
inferior -- status of the small broadcaster. And that was its
primary purpose all along. In short, these small businessmen have
been totally snookered and hoodwinked.

Like the DX listener and the ordinary listener, they've been
unfairly cheated out of digital technology's promise and the
excellent service to the community they could have had with a
dedicated digital band.

With every good wish,

Kevin.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Kevin - you out if jail?

wrote:

On May 9, 4:44 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
PocketRadio wrote:
What might have worked prior to the recession has lost any hope
of success now; the potential of new models of receivers in an
economy where people have all reduced discretionary spending is
nil.

AM HD is and was a dreadful idea, and the best way to discover
this is to buy an HD car radio and listen. To say it is annoying
is an understatement.

I had a belief in HD on FM. But there are no radios anywhere at
retail, and scant few on the web. What could have worked were the
economy robust will be like AM stereo... too late to meet market
needs. In a few years, stations will have developed robust new
alternative delivery options, and HD won't be one of them.

Like a relationship gone bad, it's hard to admit when something
is over. I have pretty much decided that HD is not even worth the
discussion time any more... with an exception being to hope that
the 10 db increase in digital power on FM not be approved.

The AMers (and low-power FMers) would have been much better off
pushing for all licensees to get a digital channel in a dedicated
(non-mediumwave) digital band, where all the nighttime interference
would be nonexistent, where AMs and FMs and low-power stations and
high-power stations would have started over on an equal footing and
with absolutely perfect coverage of their markets.

But they were sold a bill of goods by the big chains, who wanted to
preserve the superiority of the facilities they had paid many
millions for -- superiority over the small station owner.

IBOC preserves the inferior -- some might say hopelessly, impossibly
inferior -- status of the small broadcaster. And that was its
primary purpose all along. In short, these small businessmen have
been totally snookered and hoodwinked.

Like the DX listener and the ordinary listener, they've been
unfairly cheated out of digital technology's promise and the
excellent service to the community they could have had with a
dedicated digital band.

With every good wish,

Kevin.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Kevin - you out if jail?

If it is indeed Strom, according to Wikipedia he was released from prison on
September 3, 2008.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute.
They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows,
there may be more dufi there.

On May 9, 5:24 pm, dxAce wrote:
wrote:
On May 9, 4:44 pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
PocketRadio wrote:
What might have worked prior to the recession has lost any hope
of success now; the potential of new models of receivers in an
economy where people have all reduced discretionary spending is
nil.

AM HD is and was a dreadful idea, and the best way to discover
this is to buy an HD car radio and listen. To say it is annoying
is an understatement.

I had a belief in HD on FM. But there are no radios anywhere at
retail, and scant few on the web. What could have worked were the
economy robust will be like AM stereo... too late to meet market
needs. In a few years, stations will have developed robust new
alternative delivery options, and HD won't be one of them.

Like a relationship gone bad, it's hard to admit when something
is over. I have pretty much decided that HD is not even worth the
discussion time any more... with an exception being to hope that
the 10 db increase in digital power on FM not be approved.

The AMers (and low-power FMers) would have been much better off
pushing for all licensees to get a digital channel in a dedicated
(non-mediumwave) digital band, where all the nighttime interference
would be nonexistent, where AMs and FMs and low-power stations and
high-power stations would have started over on an equal footing and
with absolutely perfect coverage of their markets.

But they were sold a bill of goods by the big chains, who wanted to
preserve the superiority of the facilities they had paid many
millions for -- superiority over the small station owner.

IBOC preserves the inferior -- some might say hopelessly, impossibly
inferior -- status of the small broadcaster. And that was its
primary purpose all along. In short, these small businessmen have
been totally snookered and hoodwinked.

Like the DX listener and the ordinary listener, they've been
unfairly cheated out of digital technology's promise and the
excellent service to the community they could have had with a
dedicated digital band.

With every good wish,

Kevin.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/

Kevin - you out if jail?

If it is indeed Strom, according to Wikipedia he was released from prison on
September 3, 2008.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

And, as always, don't let your children attend Louisville Technical Institute.
They've hired at least one dufus who once claimed to have a PhD, and who knows,
there may be more dufi there.

Sounds like him. He's a smart guy. I knew him years ago in a
previous life. Hope he's fixed his problems.

On May 9, 4:44�pm, Kevin Alfred Strom
wrote:
PocketRadio wrote:
What might have worked prior to the recession has lost any hope
of success now; the potential of new models of receivers in an
economy where people have all reduced discretionary spending is
nil.

AM HD is and was a dreadful idea, and the best way to discover
this is to buy an HD car radio and listen. To say it is annoying
is an understatement.

I had a belief in HD on FM. But there are no radios anywhere at
retail, and scant few on the web. What could have worked were the
economy robust will be like AM stereo... too late to meet market
needs. In a few years, stations will have developed robust new
alternative delivery options, and HD won't be one of them.

Like a relationship gone bad, it's hard to admit when something
is over. I have pretty much decided that HD is not even worth the
discussion time any more... with an exception being to hope that
the 10 db increase in digital power on FM not be approved.

The AMers (and low-power FMers) would have been much better off
pushing for all licensees to get a digital channel in a dedicated
(non-mediumwave) digital band, where all the nighttime interference
would be nonexistent, where AMs and FMs and low-power stations and
high-power stations would have started over on an equal footing and
with absolutely perfect coverage of their markets.

But they were sold a bill of goods by the big chains, who wanted to
preserve the superiority of the facilities they had paid many
millions for -- superiority over the small station owner.

IBOC preserves the inferior -- some might say hopelessly, impossibly
inferior -- status of the small broadcaster. And that was its
primary purpose all along. In short, these small businessmen have
been totally snookered and hoodwinked.

Like the DX listener and the ordinary listener, they've been
unfairly cheated out of digital technology's promise and the
excellent service to the community they could have had with a
dedicated digital band.

With every good wish,

Kevin.
--http://kevinalfredstrom.com/- Hide quoted text -

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iNiquity's investors include just the larger broadcast chains - they
purposefully made IBOC too expensive for the smaller broadcasters, and
IBOC was designed to jam the smaller broadcasters off the dial. Yup,
that's why iNiquity wanted to convert on the existing band. Other
countries have tried converting to digital on new bands, but as in the
UK, digital stations are shutting down and transitions has stalled.
Very few buy radios anymore, and certainly not expensive digital
radios. Governments are trying to force digital adoptions, but
consumers have spoken.