dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

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David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

And so is the 'Eduardo' schtick!

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David Eduardo wrote:

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David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Yeah, guess you're right as you've sure got me beat in the creativity
department.

I manage and program radio stations... most of the work is creative...

David Eduardo wrote:

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Yeah, guess you're right as you've sure got me beat in the creativity
department.

I manage and program radio stations... most of the work is creative...

What, no ownership?

You're slipping, boy!

LMFAO

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

You have yet to prove that was not so. Hey, here is another person you are
free to call to verify... Edward Seaton, owner of the Manhattan Mercury
newspaper in Kansas and head of the five-generation old Seaton Publishing
Company. Edward was the head of the Pulitzer Board, a past president of the
Interamerican Press Association... and a Fulbright Scholar in Ecuador in the
60's. He saw my stations dozens of times, and we dined and went to movies
and other activities together for the time he was in Ecuador.

Try a search on "Edward Seaton" +"Manhattan Mercury" or on "Pulitzer" and
you will find him. Call, and ask about the gringo who owned stations in
Ecuador when he was there. I think Edward is about as reliable and credible
source as you would ever find.

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

You have yet to prove that was not so. Hey, here is another person you are
free to call to verify... Edward Seaton, owner of the Manhattan Mercury
newspaper in Kansas and head of the five-generation old Seaton Publishing
Company. Edward was the head of the Pulitzer Board, a past president of the
Interamerican Press Association... and a Fulbright Scholar in Ecuador in the
60's. He saw my stations dozens of times, and we dined and went to movies
and other activities together for the time he was in Ecuador.

Other 'activities'? Hmmmmmmmmmmm... were you two dating at the time?


Try a search on "Edward Seaton" +"Manhattan Mercury" or on "Pulitzer" and
you will find him. Call, and ask about the gringo who owned stations in
Ecuador when he was there. I think Edward is about as reliable and credible
source as you would ever find.

Your 'credible' sources mean nothing, faux Hispanic boy!

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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com.
..
market.

The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that
a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers,
and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a
large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

Now that's baloney. The analog frequency response has been limited
so
they can broadcast the crap IBOC signal. They don't sound as good
any
time day or night because of this and I find it hard to believe
there
is
no fading distortion in the metro LA area. They really sound
terrible
when this happens.


The NRSC papers are searchable, and the evidence is quite convincing.
In
fact, bandwidth much over 6.5 kHz actually makes most receivers sound
worse... the ideal being around 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz.

Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers
in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was,
indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

Well, in my own tests I'd say about 8KHz is best. This what I use most
of the time for BCBAM and SW.

I've got an 8 kHz filter in my R7.


What do you think Ace? If you are just program listening on a good
signal 8 KHz is where I keep it on the RX340. On the Drake I use the
widest 6 kHz with the passband at 3:00 or 9:00 O'clock and on the
AOR7030+ I'll use the 7 kHz filter with the passband at about 3 kHz.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
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Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers
in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was,
indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

Well, in my own tests I'd say about 8KHz is best. This what I use most
of the time for BCBAM and SW.

However, I would imagine the bandpass of your receiver is better than the
stuff sold at WalMart and Bed, Bath and Beyond... and that's what most home
radios are like today. Most, the study found, were down 10 db at 3.9 kHz, so
wide bandwith at the transmitted end ended up causing apparent distortion at
the receiver.

Well, the passband is brick wall DSP on one radio but the other two are
low frequency LC type with good filter shape.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
com.
..
market.

The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that
a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers,
and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a
large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

Now that's baloney. The analog frequency response has been limited
so
they can broadcast the crap IBOC signal. They don't sound as good
any
time day or night because of this and I find it hard to believe
there
is
no fading distortion in the metro LA area. They really sound
terrible
when this happens.


The NRSC papers are searchable, and the evidence is quite convincing.
In
fact, bandwidth much over 6.5 kHz actually makes most receivers sound
worse... the ideal being around 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz.

Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers
in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was,
indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

Well, in my own tests I'd say about 8KHz is best. This what I use most
of the time for BCBAM and SW.

I've got an 8 kHz filter in my R7.


What do you think Ace? If you are just program listening on a good
signal 8 KHz is where I keep it on the RX340. On the Drake I use the
widest 6 kHz with the passband at 3:00 or 9:00 O'clock and on the
AOR7030+ I'll use the 7 kHz filter with the passband at about 3 kHz.

It depends. For what I normally am looking for (DX) I use the 3 kHz filter, but on
occassion, I'll use the 6 or 8.

I don't have to use the R7 all that much, on any given day I'm just loafing around
with the R8, though I do cycle through all the receivers every two weeks or so.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On May 16, 5:48�pm, dxAce wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:
"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...

David Eduardo wrote:

Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!

What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

You have yet to prove that was not so. Hey, here is another person you are
free to call to verify... Edward Seaton, owner of the Manhattan Mercury
newspaper in Kansas and head of the five-generation old Seaton Publishing
Company. Edward was the head of the Pulitzer Board, a past president of the
Interamerican Press Association... and a Fulbright Scholar in Ecuador in the
60's. He saw my stations dozens of times, and we dined and went to movies
and other activities together for the time he was in Ecuador.

Other 'activities'? Hmmmmmmmmmmm... were you two dating at the time?



Try a search on "Edward Seaton" +"Manhattan Mercury" or on "Pulitzer" and
you will find him. Call, and ask about the gringo who owned stations in
Ecuador when he was there. I think Edward is about as reliable and credible
source as you would ever find.

Your 'credible' sources mean nothing, faux Hispanic boy!- Hide quoted text -

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Could he be a faux wet-back?

"dxAce" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:


Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

You have yet to prove that was not so. Hey, here is another person you
are
free to call to verify... Edward Seaton, owner of the Manhattan Mercury
newspaper in Kansas and head of the five-generation old Seaton Publishing
Company. Edward was the head of the Pulitzer Board, a past president of
the
Interamerican Press Association... and a Fulbright Scholar in Ecuador in
the
60's. He saw my stations dozens of times, and we dined and went to movies
and other activities together for the time he was in Ecuador.

Other 'activities'? Hmmmmmmmmmmm... were you two dating at the time?

Uh, things like driving to Santo Domingo de los Colorados, fishing an the
slopes of the Chimborazo, etc.

Try a search on "Edward Seaton" +"Manhattan Mercury" or on "Pulitzer" and
you will find him. Call, and ask about the gringo who owned stations in
Ecuador when he was there. I think Edward is about as reliable and
credible
source as you would ever find.

Your 'credible' sources mean nothing, faux Hispanic boy!

Right. A person who has been the head of the Pulitzer Committee and the
Interamerican Press Association is meaningless, but your lies, bigotry and
hatred are... gotcha!