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David Eduardo wrote:

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...
�.

You're the HD Radio-shill that wants to destroy analog, with HD
Radio's adjacent-chennel interference.

The issue with HD is not that particular technical aspect... there is no
listening to adjacents in the primary signal contours of closer-by
stations. "Interference" is a relative term... there is really no
interference if no listening is being disturbed.

The analog carrier is an adjacent station that is often messed up by the
IBOC.

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On May 15, 3:30�am, none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
....
.

You're the HD Radio-shill that wants to destroy analog, with HD
Radio's adjacent-chennel interference.

The issue with HD is not that particular technical aspect... there is no
listening to adjacents in the primary signal contours of closer-by
stations. "Interference" is a relative term... there is really no
interference if no listening is being disturbed.

The analog carrier is an adjacent station that is often messed up by the
IBOC.

Good point - self-interference.

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In article
,
PocketRadio wrote:

On May 15, 3:30?am, none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...
.

You're the HD Radio-shill that wants to destroy analog, with HD
Radio's adjacent-chennel interference.

The issue with HD is not that particular technical aspect... there is no
listening to adjacents in the primary signal contours of closer-by
stations. "Interference" is a relative term... there is really no
interference if no listening is being disturbed.

The analog carrier is an adjacent station that is often messed up by the
IBOC.

Good point - self-interference.

KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high end
is compromised at all times.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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On May 15, 7:51�pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





�PocketRadio wrote:
On May 15, 3:30?am, none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...
.

You're the HD Radio-shill that wants to destroy analog, with HD
Radio's adjacent-chennel interference.

The issue with HD is not that particular technical aspect... there is no
listening to adjacents in the primary signal contours of closer-by
stations. "Interference" is a relative term... there is really no
interference if no listening is being disturbed.

The analog carrier is an adjacent station that is often messed up by the
IBOC.

Good point - self-interference.

KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high end
is compromised at all times.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

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What gives? Trying to destoy analog to force digital adoption?
Thinking that destroying adjacents will give them more ad revenues,
then force us Soviet Union style to have to listen to local stations
only?

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On May 15, 7:51�pm, Telamon
wrote:
In article
,





�PocketRadio wrote:
On May 15, 3:30?am, none ""root\"@(none)" wrote:
David Eduardo wrote:

"PocketRadio" wrote in message
...
.

You're the HD Radio-shill that wants to destroy analog, with HD
Radio's adjacent-chennel interference.

The issue with HD is not that particular technical aspect... there is no
listening to adjacents in the primary signal contours of closer-by
stations. "Interference" is a relative term... there is really no
interference if no listening is being disturbed.

The analog carrier is an adjacent station that is often messed up by the
IBOC.

Good point - self-interference.

KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high end
is compromised at all times.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

**** the Big Boys - I can't wait for all of them to go under!

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"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article


KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

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"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article


KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

If they remain in the top 5 it will not be because of their wonderful
signal.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article


KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

Doesn't that disprove your statement about people not listening to stations
that are not perfectly clean and clear?

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"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article


KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high
end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

If they remain in the top 5 it will not be because of their wonderful
signal.

Listening outside the LA market does not make any difference to them.

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"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article


KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

Doesn't that disprove your statement about people not listening to
stations that are not perfectly clean and clear?


No, it does not. KFI sounds very clean and clear in its home market.

The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers, and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...

In article


KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

By default, because they have a good signal.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"Brenda Ann" wrote in message
...

"David Eduardo" wrote in message
...

"Telamon" wrote in
message
...

In article


KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high
end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

Doesn't that disprove your statement about people not listening to
stations that are not perfectly clean and clear?


No, it does not. KFI sounds very clean and clear in its home market.

The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers, and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

KFI sounds like ****. They have no bass. They have no highs. It
sounds like the antenna system is too high Q or something. Lots of
carrier shift as well. KNX sounds 100% better.

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"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article


KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

By default, because they have a good signal.

40 stations in LA have good signals... about 10 AMs cover the market
comparably, and do nowhere nearly as well.

KFI has better ratings than most because it has more appealing programming.

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"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:


KFI sounds like ****. They have no bass. They have no highs. It sounds
like the antenna system is too high Q or something. Lots of carrier shift
as well. KNX sounds 100% better.

Yet KFI has three or four times the audience of KNX...

The new KFI tower uses a very low Q ATU and is reasonably flat on the sides.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dave" wrote in message
...
David Eduardo wrote:


KFI sounds like ****. They have no bass. They have no highs. It
sounds like the antenna system is too high Q or something. Lots of
carrier shift as well. KNX sounds 100% better.

Yet KFI has three or four times the audience of KNX...

The new KFI tower uses a very low Q ATU and is reasonably flat on the
sides.

It sounds terrible. No balls.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

Yet KFI has three or four times the audience of KNX...

Until the first signs of a temblor are felt, then it's KNX all the way.
I remember back in '94 Northridge, every radio you went past was on KNX,
who knows how many might have just left KFI to get some real news before
the KFI censors could cook a right wing spin into it.

When the daily data was broken out for the Northridge quake, the #1 station
was KFWB, followed by KHJ and then KNX. KFI was still building back then, so
not as much a news factor.

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"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
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David Eduardo wrote:

KFI has better ratings than most because it has more appealing
programming.

Meaning that a stack of skewed diaries say so ;-)

There are no diaries in LA.

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"Telamon" wrote in message
...



KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high
end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

By default, because they have a good signal.

Which they have now compromised.

In the several weeks that they have had HD back on, the ratings have not
slipped at all.

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
market.

The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers, and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

Now that's baloney. The analog frequency response has been limited so
they can broadcast the crap IBOC signal. They don't sound as good any
time day or night because of this and I find it hard to believe there is
no fading distortion in the metro LA area. They really sound terrible
when this happens.


The NRSC papers are searchable, and the evidence is quite convincing. In
fact, bandwidth much over 6.5 kHz actually makes most receivers sound
worse... the ideal being around 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz.

Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4a1b124b.9753656@chupacabra...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4a160b62.7984796@chupacabra...
David Eduardo wrote:

KFI has better ratings than most because it has more appealing
programming.

Meaning that a stack of skewed diaries say so ;-)

There are no diaries in LA.

Nor 'valid' ones anywhere.

And your degree or credentials in research are?

At least you got that GED on your side, boy!

Yeah, and a 4.0 GPA / Dean's list at ASU and lots of advanced courses
later.

But never a degree, even with as you've stated in the past, enough college
credits for two degrees!

Why would I need a degree? I was recruited out of college by an NYSE-listed
company as a VP, and since I was taking such an eclectic selection of
courses I would not have qualified for any degree field anyway, I ended up
with a custom-designed curriculum.

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4a1a0f7c.9034906@chupacabra...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4a150949.7447250@chupacabra...
David Eduardo wrote:

Yet KFI has three or four times the audience of KNX...

Until the first signs of a temblor are felt, then it's KNX all the way.
I remember back in '94 Northridge, every radio you went past was on KNX,
who knows how many might have just left KFI to get some real news before
the KFI censors could cook a right wing spin into it.

When the daily data was broken out for the Northridge quake, the #1
station
was KFWB, followed by KHJ and then KNX.

KFWB 980 has always been considered a weak DX target in San Diego, and
don't know about KHJ back then but now XEMO 860 (La Poderosa) kicks
their ass whether for 'noticias de teremoto' or regular program content.

I was speaking of the area where the quake occured, LA County. KFWB was the
clear favorite and did a much better job than KNX. KHJ was the only Spanish
language station on the air following the quake, and much of the 40% of the
market that is Hispanic listened to them... they lost 8 seconds during the
quake.

KFI was still building back then, so
not as much a news factor.

Should have kept Leykis.

They benefitted enormously by nuking him.

Leykis was and is pervert.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
market.

The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers, and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

Now that's baloney. The analog frequency response has been limited so
they can broadcast the crap IBOC signal. They don't sound as good any
time day or night because of this and I find it hard to believe there
is
no fading distortion in the metro LA area. They really sound terrible
when this happens.


The NRSC papers are searchable, and the evidence is quite convincing. In
fact, bandwidth much over 6.5 kHz actually makes most receivers sound
worse... the ideal being around 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz.

Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was, indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4a1b124b.9753656@chupacabra...
David Eduardo wrote:

"Bob Dobbs" wrote in message
news:4a160b62.7984796@chupacabra...
David Eduardo wrote:

KFI has better ratings than most because it has more appealing
programming.

Meaning that a stack of skewed diaries say so ;-)

There are no diaries in LA.

Nor 'valid' ones anywhere.

And your degree or credentials in research are?

At least you got that GED on your side, boy!

Yeah, and a 4.0 GPA / Dean's list at ASU and lots of advanced courses
later.

But never a degree, even with as you've stated in the past, enough college
credits for two degrees!

Why would I need a degree? I was recruited out of college by an NYSE-listed
company as a VP, and since I was taking such an eclectic selection of
courses I would not have qualified for any degree field anyway, I ended up
with a custom-designed curriculum.

Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!

LMFAO

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..
market.

The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers, and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

Now that's baloney. The analog frequency response has been limited so
they can broadcast the crap IBOC signal. They don't sound as good any
time day or night because of this and I find it hard to believe there
is
no fading distortion in the metro LA area. They really sound terrible
when this happens.


The NRSC papers are searchable, and the evidence is quite convincing. In
fact, bandwidth much over 6.5 kHz actually makes most receivers sound
worse... the ideal being around 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz.

Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was, indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

Well, in my own tests I'd say about 8KHz is best. This what I use most
of the time for BCBAM and SW.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...



KFI is back to trashing their own signal at night and the audio high
end
is compromised at all times.


And it remains a top 5 radio station...

By default, because they have a good signal.

Which they have now compromised.

In the several weeks that they have had HD back on, the ratings have not
slipped at all.

A little more time may see people give up on KFI. I have and I expect
others will also.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
..
market.

The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers, and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

Now that's baloney. The analog frequency response has been limited so
they can broadcast the crap IBOC signal. They don't sound as good any
time day or night because of this and I find it hard to believe there
is
no fading distortion in the metro LA area. They really sound terrible
when this happens.


The NRSC papers are searchable, and the evidence is quite convincing. In
fact, bandwidth much over 6.5 kHz actually makes most receivers sound
worse... the ideal being around 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz.

Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was, indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

Well, in my own tests I'd say about 8KHz is best. This what I use most
of the time for BCBAM and SW.

I've got an 8 kHz filter in my R7.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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"Telamon" wrote in message
...
Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers
in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was,
indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

Well, in my own tests I'd say about 8KHz is best. This what I use most
of the time for BCBAM and SW.

However, I would imagine the bandpass of your receiver is better than the
stuff sold at WalMart and Bed, Bath and Beyond... and that's what most home
radios are like today. Most, the study found, were down 10 db at 3.9 kHz, so
wide bandwith at the transmitted end ended up causing apparent distortion at
the receiver.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Yeah, guess you're right as you've sure got me beat in the creativity
department.

You and Bryant both are quite 'creative'!

LMFAO

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

'Eduardo' down 100%
 

dxAce wrote:

David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

And so is the 'Eduardo' schtick!

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Yeah, guess you're right as you've sure got me beat in the creativity
department.

I manage and program radio stations... most of the work is creative...

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Yeah, guess you're right as you've sure got me beat in the creativity
department.

I manage and program radio stations... most of the work is creative...

What, no ownership?

You're slipping, boy!

LMFAO

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"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

You have yet to prove that was not so. Hey, here is another person you are
free to call to verify... Edward Seaton, owner of the Manhattan Mercury
newspaper in Kansas and head of the five-generation old Seaton Publishing
Company. Edward was the head of the Pulitzer Board, a past president of the
Interamerican Press Association... and a Fulbright Scholar in Ecuador in the
60's. He saw my stations dozens of times, and we dined and went to movies
and other activities together for the time he was in Ecuador.

Try a search on "Edward Seaton" +"Manhattan Mercury" or on "Pulitzer" and
you will find him. Call, and ask about the gringo who owned stations in
Ecuador when he was there. I think Edward is about as reliable and credible
source as you would ever find.

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David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:

"dxAce" wrote in message
...


David Eduardo wrote:


Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!


What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

You have yet to prove that was not so. Hey, here is another person you are
free to call to verify... Edward Seaton, owner of the Manhattan Mercury
newspaper in Kansas and head of the five-generation old Seaton Publishing
Company. Edward was the head of the Pulitzer Board, a past president of the
Interamerican Press Association... and a Fulbright Scholar in Ecuador in the
60's. He saw my stations dozens of times, and we dined and went to movies
and other activities together for the time he was in Ecuador.

Other 'activities'? Hmmmmmmmmmmm... were you two dating at the time?


Try a search on "Edward Seaton" +"Manhattan Mercury" or on "Pulitzer" and
you will find him. Call, and ask about the gringo who owned stations in
Ecuador when he was there. I think Edward is about as reliable and credible
source as you would ever find.

Your 'credible' sources mean nothing, faux Hispanic boy!

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In article ,
dxAce wrote:

Telamon wrote:

In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message

...
In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
.
com.
..
market.

The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that
a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers,
and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a
large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

Now that's baloney. The analog frequency response has been limited
so
they can broadcast the crap IBOC signal. They don't sound as good
any
time day or night because of this and I find it hard to believe
there
is
no fading distortion in the metro LA area. They really sound
terrible
when this happens.


The NRSC papers are searchable, and the evidence is quite convincing.
In
fact, bandwidth much over 6.5 kHz actually makes most receivers sound
worse... the ideal being around 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz.

Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers
in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was,
indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

Well, in my own tests I'd say about 8KHz is best. This what I use most
of the time for BCBAM and SW.

I've got an 8 kHz filter in my R7.


What do you think Ace? If you are just program listening on a good
signal 8 KHz is where I keep it on the RX340. On the Drake I use the
widest 6 kHz with the passband at 3:00 or 9:00 O'clock and on the
AOR7030+ I'll use the 7 kHz filter with the passband at about 3 kHz.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

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In article ,
"David Eduardo" wrote:

"Telamon" wrote in message
...
Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers
in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was,
indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

Well, in my own tests I'd say about 8KHz is best. This what I use most
of the time for BCBAM and SW.

However, I would imagine the bandpass of your receiver is better than the
stuff sold at WalMart and Bed, Bath and Beyond... and that's what most home
radios are like today. Most, the study found, were down 10 db at 3.9 kHz, so
wide bandwith at the transmitted end ended up causing apparent distortion at
the receiver.

Well, the passband is brick wall DSP on one radio but the other two are
low frequency LC type with good filter shape.

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Telamon
Ventura, California

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The NRSC research, headed by none other than Bob Orban, proved that
a
bandwidth of up to around 6 kHz was ideal given today's receivers,
and
anything more caused deterioration in the audio. The NRSC used a
large
sample of average listeners using a variety of consumer radios.

Now that's baloney. The analog frequency response has been limited
so
they can broadcast the crap IBOC signal. They don't sound as good
any
time day or night because of this and I find it hard to believe
there
is
no fading distortion in the metro LA area. They really sound
terrible
when this happens.


The NRSC papers are searchable, and the evidence is quite convincing.
In
fact, bandwidth much over 6.5 kHz actually makes most receivers sound
worse... the ideal being around 5.5 kHz to 6.5 kHz.

Yeah, with the IBOC on that's true but with just the analog signal it's
not. I have the luxury of knowing since I have a receiver that will go
out to 16KHz.

The NRSC study had nothing to do with HD... it was based on finding the
optimal bandwidth for AM with today's environment and today's receivers
in
analog mode. The feeling had been that the NRSC 10 kHz standard was,
indeed,
too wide for the best sounding AM operation... and they were right.

Well, in my own tests I'd say about 8KHz is best. This what I use most
of the time for BCBAM and SW.

I've got an 8 kHz filter in my R7.


What do you think Ace? If you are just program listening on a good
signal 8 KHz is where I keep it on the RX340. On the Drake I use the
widest 6 kHz with the passband at 3:00 or 9:00 O'clock and on the
AOR7030+ I'll use the 7 kHz filter with the passband at about 3 kHz.

It depends. For what I normally am looking for (DX) I use the 3 kHz filter, but on
occassion, I'll use the 6 or 8.

I don't have to use the R7 all that much, on any given day I'm just loafing around
with the R8, though I do cycle through all the receivers every two weeks or so.

dxAce
Michigan
USA

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On May 16, 5:48�pm, dxAce wrote:
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Custom fabricated? Still, you only have a GED!

What possible benefit would a piece of paper be? You are so
straight-laced
and, obviously, unable to think creatively.

Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

You have yet to prove that was not so. Hey, here is another person you are
free to call to verify... Edward Seaton, owner of the Manhattan Mercury
newspaper in Kansas and head of the five-generation old Seaton Publishing
Company. Edward was the head of the Pulitzer Board, a past president of the
Interamerican Press Association... and a Fulbright Scholar in Ecuador in the
60's. He saw my stations dozens of times, and we dined and went to movies
and other activities together for the time he was in Ecuador.

Other 'activities'? Hmmmmmmmmmmm... were you two dating at the time?



Try a search on "Edward Seaton" +"Manhattan Mercury" or on "Pulitzer" and
you will find him. Call, and ask about the gringo who owned stations in
Ecuador when he was there. I think Edward is about as reliable and credible
source as you would ever find.

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Could he be a faux wet-back?

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David Eduardo wrote:


Your 'Pretend To Own' schtick was pretty damn creative, boy!

You have yet to prove that was not so. Hey, here is another person you
are
free to call to verify... Edward Seaton, owner of the Manhattan Mercury
newspaper in Kansas and head of the five-generation old Seaton Publishing
Company. Edward was the head of the Pulitzer Board, a past president of
the
Interamerican Press Association... and a Fulbright Scholar in Ecuador in
the
60's. He saw my stations dozens of times, and we dined and went to movies
and other activities together for the time he was in Ecuador.

Other 'activities'? Hmmmmmmmmmmm... were you two dating at the time?

Uh, things like driving to Santo Domingo de los Colorados, fishing an the
slopes of the Chimborazo, etc.

Try a search on "Edward Seaton" +"Manhattan Mercury" or on "Pulitzer" and
you will find him. Call, and ask about the gringo who owned stations in
Ecuador when he was there. I think Edward is about as reliable and
credible
source as you would ever find.

Your 'credible' sources mean nothing, faux Hispanic boy!

Right. A person who has been the head of the Pulitzer Committee and the
Interamerican Press Association is meaningless, but your lies, bigotry and
hatred are... gotcha!