On May 28, 7:48*am, "Lamont Cranston"
wrote:
wrote:
On May 27, 4:39 pm, Kevin Cunningham
wrote:
On May 27,

(gone)
- - Liberal-Fascists are almost always stuck with
- - their heads-up-their-old-wealth-pasts ~ RHF

- Repetition doesn't make Liberals "Fascists".
- Fascism is a right wing concept and goal.
- Liberals favor democratic rule over dictatorships.

Repeating Liberal Lies and Democrat Party
of the USA Distortions does not change the
Fact that Liberal-Fascism Exists [.] ~ RHF
.

(Tons and tons of crap deleted)

And you can't define it, place the concept with it's
founder, say
who else uses it but it's still real. Sort of like
"Alice in
Wonderland".

Yes, the Wonderland of right wing dementia.

ROTFLMAO!!!

This is fun Fun FUN ! *Kernal Klink and Sargent Shultz
hilarious -
ROTFLMAO!
HEIL LIBERAL FASCIST HITLER!!!

Ah, another Dementia Wonderland dweller.

http://www.publiceye.org/glossary/glossary_big.html#f

Fascism and neofascism: Fascism is an especially virulent
form of *far-right* populism. Fascism glorifies national,
racial, or cultural unity and collective rebirth while
seeking to purge imagined enemies, and attacks both
revolutionary movements and liberal pluralism in favor of
militarized, totalitarian mass politics. Fascism first
crystallized in Europe in response to the Bolshevik
Revolution and the devastation of World War I, and then
spread to other parts of the world. If it is a post-WWII
occurrence it should be called neofascist or neofascism
unless it solely involves participants in older movements.
Neofascists reinterpret fascist ideology and strategy in
various ways to fit new circumstances.

LC,

Fascist Techniques and Means to Achieve Fascist
Totalitarian Goals and Political Dominance over the
Masses can be employed by anyone including the
Left-Wing and so call Progressives and Liberals.

~ RHF wrote:
On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:
On May 27, 3:23*am, Gary Forbis wrote:



On May 26, 10:18*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Gary Forbis" wrote in message

...
So, Is the conservative or liberal point of view to impose their will
upon the woman?

Consider this. *Suppose a quadraplegic takes up residence in your
home without your permission. *Do you then become responsible
for the care of this human being? *If you say no then why does
a woman become responsbile for some human who takes up
residency in her womb without her permission?

Has she not, by virtue of having had the requisite coitus, given defacto
permission (rape notwithstanding)?

No. *pregnancy is no more a result of coitus than becoming a
millionare is a result of playing lotto. *

- You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not
responsible
- for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

Yeah That The Liberal-Fascist {Male Theology}
Abortion Escape Clause : It's All Her Fault !
.
it's a sad excuse for a human being : that will
not take responsibility for his issue ~ RHF


Just follow the thread. This is the conclusion one might reach based
on the sexist poster's premise, in this case pro-choice for women
only. When asked if a women is responsible for pregnancy if she has
intercourse, the poster's answer was "no". I've simply asked a follow-
up question based on the same premise and your response is gender
based.

On May 28, 4:48*am, Kevin Cunningham wrote:
On May 27, 9:05*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:



On May 27, 2:42*pm, Kevin Cunningham wrote:

On May 27, 1:33*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:

On May 27, 12:23*am, Gary Forbis wrote:

On May 26, 10:18*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Gary Forbis" wrote in message

...
So, Is the conservative or liberal point of view to impose their will
upon the woman?

Consider this. *Suppose a quadraplegic takes up residence in your
home without your permission. *Do you then become responsible
for the care of this human being? *If you say no then why does
a woman become responsbile for some human who takes up
residency in her womb without her permission?

Has she not, by virtue of having had the requisite coitus, given defacto
permission (rape notwithstanding)?

- No. *pregnancy is no more a result of coitus
- than becoming a millionare is a result of
- playing lotto.

GF - Oh Ye Great Denier of Biology {Obama-Speaker©}

-*While you have to play to win few who play actually win.

-wrt- The Human Sexual Act it's about 1-in-4 Chances.
-ps- That Ain't a Million to One.

-*Most who do it do it for fun not for the chance
- of having a baby.

Then again - Some/Many 'Do It' to Create a Baby :
Which is a Natural Outcome of the Sexual Act.

-*Those who do it to have a baby will not ask
- for the human to be evicted.

Abortion is not an 'eviction'

The 'evicted' are out-on-the-street
-but- Very Much Alive
-and- Have a 'Chance' at a New Day
-and- A New Beginning for Their Life

The "Aborted" Are Dead {Murdered}
-yeah- Very Much Dead
-and- Have a 'NO Chance' at a New Day
-and- A NO Beginning of Their Life

Partial Birth Abortion -aka- ObamaCide©

-*There is no meeting of the minds between
- the parties prior to human taking up resident
- in the womb so no contract was made.

Don't Know whether there was a 'meeting-of-the-minds'
-but- There Was Sure A "Meeting-of-the-Bodies"

GF - "human taking up resident in the womb"

# 1 - Yes It Is A Living Human Being :
Not an organic tissue sample to disposed of...

# 2 - "taking up resident in the womb"
You make it sound like some space alien invasion.
*.

- Interesting, mostly when I read an anti-abortion screed, it's
written
- by some guy. *Now why is that? *Is it because banning abortion won't
- influence them at all? *Sorta like Briston Palin's boy friend.
-
- And this "guy" is the same way. *He's not going to have a baby, he's
- not going to deliver but he's still against every thing that doesn't
- affect him.

KC - Have One of Your Children Aborted {Murdered}
Without Your Knowledge : Until Then STFU ~ RHF
*.

So tell us, prick, when did you have an abortion? *What have you
actually experienced?

Just like all the scum sucking anti-abortion male activists you have
never been pregnant but you know aaalllllll about abortion. *The facts
are simple. *You are scared of women. *You are scared to let women go
and talk to their doctors and make their own decisions.

And you are too gutless to have insisted that the repugs quit playing
politics with the abortion issue. *Yeah, a real gutless individual.
When you had the power you never, ever proposed a constitutional
amendment, a bill, any thing to out law abortion. *You were happy to
be used as a cash cow.

Dang "KC" Every Baby Has A Father and
Many/Most of those Human Fathers Love
and Want Their Children To Be Born and
Live and Have a Full Life. {Not To Be Aborted}

Think Beyond The Rights of The Mother
True Equality Requires Thinking About :
* The Rights of The Mother
* The Rights of The Baby
* The Rights of The Father
The Total Humanity {Love} of the Family.

KC - 'scum sucking anti-abortion male activists'

KC - 'scared of women'

KC - 'gutless'

KC - 'repugs'

KC - 'gutless' again

- - - = = = RHF's Canned Reply 'Rant' = = = - - -
[: To Liberal-Fascist Name Calling :]
ROTFL - You Know When You Are Winning An Argument :
When a Super-Smart 'Enlightened" Liberal Starts Name Calling*.
* They Lose Their Ability To Think And Get Emotional - rotfl ~ RHF
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...8979fbe8546cfa

On May 28, 5:12*am, Gary Forbis wrote:
On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:

You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not responsible
for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

While there can be no meeting of the minds between the mother or
father and the life created there can be a meeting of the minds
between
the mother and the father concerning any life created. *It behooves
the
couple to make a contract concerning such matters.

We can move down the road to what obligations a society can force
upon an individual if you'd like. *We'd need to start from basic
principles
concerning such matters so we know these principles are consistently
applied in all our decisions. *Both the left and the right seem to be
helter-skelter on the application of first principles.

GF - Classic Liberal Secular Society Thinking :
* make a contract
* obligations a society
* force upon an individual
* principles are consistently applied in all our decisions
* application of first principles

Where is the Humanity and Love {Sense of Family}
Between a Man and a Women and the New Life
{Children} That They Have Created in Your Thinking ?
* Humanity
* Love
* New Life
* Family
* Society

On May 28, 5:16*am, dave wrote:
Telamon wrote:

- - It's your history if you live in America.

- Genocide and slavery mark the early years,
- followed by hypocrisy and plunder.

Dave - Yours Is The One Sided "Dark Cloud"
View of US History ~ RHF

On May 28, 10:50*am, Moderator wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:
On May 27, 3:23*am, Gary Forbis wrote:

On May 26, 10:18*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Gary Forbis" wrote in message

...
So, Is the conservative or liberal point of view to impose their will
upon the woman?

Consider this. *Suppose a quadraplegic takes up residence in your
home without your permission. *Do you then become responsible
for the care of this human being? *If you say no then why does
a woman become responsbile for some human who takes up
residency in her womb without her permission?

Has she not, by virtue of having had the requisite coitus, given defacto
permission (rape notwithstanding)?

No. *pregnancy is no more a result of coitus than becoming a
millionare is a result of playing lotto. *

- You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not
responsible
- for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

Yeah That The Liberal-Fascist {Male Theology}
Abortion Escape Clause : It's All Her Fault !
*.
it's a sad excuse for a human being : that will
not take responsibility for his issue ~ RHF

Just follow the thread. This is the conclusion one might reach based
on the sexist poster's premise, in this case pro-choice for women
only. When asked if a women is responsible for pregnancy if she has
intercourse, the poster's answer was "no". I've simply asked a follow-
up question based on the same premise

- and your response is gender based.

To Deny My Gender -is- To Deny My Self ~ RHF

Meldon wrote:
On May 27, 3:23 am, Gary Forbis wrote:
On May 26, 10:18 pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Gary Forbis" wrote in message
....
So, Is the conservative or liberal point of view to impose their will
upon the woman?
Consider this. Suppose a quadraplegic takes up residence in your
home without your permission. Do you then become responsible
for the care of this human being? If you say no then why does
a woman become responsbile for some human who takes up
residency in her womb without her permission?
Has she not, by virtue of having had the requisite coitus, given defacto
permission (rape notwithstanding)?
No. pregnancy is no more a result of coitus than becoming a
millionare is a result of playing lotto.

You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not responsible
for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

Lets just make it so men are equally responsible.


If women can abandon children at a Fire House, men should be able to do
the same. If women can put a child up for adoption so can a man and if a
woman is not paying into the court system for child support then neither
should the man.

~ RHF wrote:
On May 28, 7:48 am, "Lamont Cranston"

wrote:
wrote:
On May 27, 4:39 pm, Kevin Cunningham
wrote:
On May 27,

(gone)
- - Liberal-Fascists are almost always stuck with
- - their heads-up-their-old-wealth-pasts ~ RHF

- Repetition doesn't make Liberals "Fascists".
- Fascism is a right wing concept and goal.
- Liberals favor democratic rule over
dictatorships.

Repeating Liberal Lies and Democrat Party
of the USA Distortions does not change the
Fact that Liberal-Fascism Exists [.] ~ RHF
.

(Tons and tons of crap deleted)

And you can't define it, place the concept with it's
founder, say
who else uses it but it's still real. Sort of like
"Alice in
Wonderland".

Yes, the Wonderland of right wing dementia.

ROTFLMAO!!!

This is fun Fun FUN ! Kernal Klink and Sargent Shultz
hilarious -
ROTFLMAO!
HEIL LIBERAL FASCIST HITLER!!!

Ah, another Dementia Wonderland dweller.

http://www.publiceye.org/glossary/glossary_big.html#f

Fascism and neofascism: Fascism is an especially
virulent
form of *far-right* populism. Fascism glorifies
national,
racial, or cultural unity and collective rebirth while
seeking to purge imagined enemies, and attacks both
revolutionary movements and liberal pluralism in favor
of
militarized, totalitarian mass politics. Fascism first
crystallized in Europe in response to the Bolshevik
Revolution and the devastation of World War I, and then
spread to other parts of the world. If it is a post-WWII
occurrence it should be called neofascist or neofascism
unless it solely involves participants in older
movements.
Neofascists reinterpret fascist ideology and strategy in
various ways to fit new circumstances.

LC,

Fascist Techniques and Means to Achieve Fascist
Totalitarian Goals and Political Dominance over the
Masses can be employed by anyone including the
Left-Wing and so call Progressives and Liberals.
.
Call it Neo-LiIberal-Fascism -or- Neuvo-Liberal-Fascism
21st-Century-Liberal-Fascism in the end it is Fascism.
.
The ObamaSpeakers© Denying That "Liberal-Fascism" Exists
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...943adbe30480e1
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...d3aa8461de1401
~ibid~
.
The Validity of the Term "Liberal Fascist"
? Can It Exist?
? Does It Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...bc4aa52f959d40
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...070611dd003a01
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...e38e44a0d1c320
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...5e688bb0612c63
~ibid~
.
Obama-Regime© Using Left-Wing Radial High Tech
Media Shout-Down BARACKING©
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...579a6b903e62b1
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...dda4284110e71f
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...dcfdaa2b7cbc2d
.
Don't Let The Truth Be Told : Manufacturing the Democrat
Half-Truth and Liberal Media Lie by Distorting the Facts
and Reality.
~ibid~
.
Therefore It Follows . . . -from- Wikipedia
The National Socialist German Workers' Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...Workers%E2%80%...
(German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
Abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English
as the NAZI Party
(Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
was a political party in Germany between 1919 and 1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
It was known as the German Workers' Party (DAP)
.
Today we have 21st Century "Liberal-Fascism"
and the Liberal-Fascist Agents of Social Change.
-aka- The Democrat Party of the USA attempting
to Socialize the Nation under their One Party Control
with their Charismatic Leader {Totalitarian} Barack
'Hussein' Obama . -aka- Change You Can Believe In !
-aka- "The Third Way" via Fascism Authoritarian {Elitist}
and Totalitarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_position
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism
.
The Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist"
? Can Liberal-Fascism Exist?
? Do Liberal-Fascists Exist ?
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...4569002bba33ca
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...bc4aa52f959d40
~ibid~
.
Denying the potential existence of 'Liberal-Fascism'
does not change the fact that 'Liberal-Fascism' may
and can exist in the world today.
.
Liberal-Fascist :
Employing the Justification, Means and Tactics of
Fascism {National Socialism} to Achieve the Ends
of a One Party Liberal {Socialist} Agenda is what
has morphed into "Liberal-Fascism" and those who
are the Agents-of-One-Party-Socialist-Change are
in-fact Liberal-Fascist.
* Classically Fascism had one reasoned definition
in the early 1900s. -but- Time Changes Words and
their Meanings . . .
.
Time often changes Words and the Meaning
of Words; and that is part of the Evolution of
Language with the Passage of Time.
.
Hence the use of the 'Hyphen' between the Two
Words Linking Them and Uniting Them into One
Compound Word with a New Meaning and Usage.
"Liberal-Fascism" & "Liberal-Fascist"
.
Liberal & Fascist have now become One Newly
'Hyphenated' {Combination} Word "Liberal-Fascist"
with it's own new unique meaning.
.
ObamaNistas© {Liberal-Fascists} Worried About
"The Great Leader's" Socialist Economic Competence
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...76df6e26d1b4c8
~ibid~
.
'lc' - history could be repeating itself . . .
all over again - idtars ~ RHF {Hey That's Me ~ibid~}
.

Ah, another Dementia Wonderland dweller.

http://www.publiceye.org/glossary/glossary_big.html#f

Fascism and neofascism: Fascism is an especially virulent
form of *far-right* populism. Fascism glorifies national,
racial, or cultural unity and collective rebirth while
seeking to purge imagined enemies, and attacks both
revolutionary movements and liberal pluralism in favor of
militarized, totalitarian mass politics. Fascism first
crystallized in Europe in response to the Bolshevik
Revolution and the devastation of World War I, and then
spread to other parts of the world. If it is a post-WWII
occurrence it should be called neofascist or neofascism
unless it solely involves participants in older movements.
Neofascists reinterpret fascist ideology and strategy in
various ways to fit new circumstances.

On May 28, 11:05*am, "~ RHF" wrote:
On May 28, 5:12*am, Gary Forbis wrote:





On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:

You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not responsible
for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

While there can be no meeting of the minds between the mother or
father and the life created there can be a meeting of the minds
between
the mother and the father concerning any life created. *It behooves
the
couple to make a contract concerning such matters.

We can move down the road to what obligations a society can force
upon an individual if you'd like. *We'd need to start from basic
principles
concerning such matters so we know these principles are consistently
applied in all our decisions. *Both the left and the right seem to be
helter-skelter on the application of first principles.

GF - Classic Liberal Secular Society Thinking :
* make a contract
* obligations a society
* force upon an individual
* principles are consistently applied in all our decisions
* application of first principles

Where is the Humanity and Love {Sense of Family}
Between a Man and a Women and the New Life
{Children} That They Have Created in Your Thinking ?
* Humanity
* Love
* New Life
* Family
* Society

In the case of those who would chose abortion,
no where. If you think society should oblige a
woman to carry to term you are considering
where a society can force an obligation onto
a woman. Where is the love in that?

The weather outside is cool.What happened to all that global warming?
cuhulin