On May 27, 3:23*am, Gary Forbis wrote:
On May 26, 10:18*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Gary Forbis" wrote in message

....
So, Is the conservative or liberal point of view to impose their will
upon the woman?

Consider this. *Suppose a quadraplegic takes up residence in your
home without your permission. *Do you then become responsible
for the care of this human being? *If you say no then why does
a woman become responsbile for some human who takes up
residency in her womb without her permission?

Has she not, by virtue of having had the requisite coitus, given defacto
permission (rape notwithstanding)?

No. *pregnancy is no more a result of coitus than becoming a
millionare is a result of playing lotto. *

You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not responsible
for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

On May 27, 5:40*pm, Meldon wrote:
On May 27, 3:23*am, Gary Forbis wrote:





On May 26, 10:18*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Gary Forbis" wrote in message

....
So, Is the conservative or liberal point of view to impose their will
upon the woman?

Consider this. *Suppose a quadraplegic takes up residence in your
home without your permission. *Do you then become responsible
for the care of this human being? *If you say no then why does
a woman become responsbile for some human who takes up
residency in her womb without her permission?

Has she not, by virtue of having had the requisite coitus, given defacto
permission (rape notwithstanding)?

No. *pregnancy is no more a result of coitus than becoming a
millionare is a result of playing lotto. *

You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not responsible
for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

LOL - tell that to the Puerto Rican Liberal Fascist Judge - ROTFLMAO!

On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:
On May 27, 3:23*am, Gary Forbis wrote:



On May 26, 10:18*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Gary Forbis" wrote in message

....
So, Is the conservative or liberal point of view to impose their will
upon the woman?

Consider this. *Suppose a quadraplegic takes up residence in your
home without your permission. *Do you then become responsible
for the care of this human being? *If you say no then why does
a woman become responsbile for some human who takes up
residency in her womb without her permission?

Has she not, by virtue of having had the requisite coitus, given defacto
permission (rape notwithstanding)?

No. *pregnancy is no more a result of coitus than becoming a
millionare is a result of playing lotto. *

- You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not
responsible
- for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

Yeah That The Liberal-Fascist {Male Theology}
Abortion Escape Clause : It's All Her Fault !

~ RHF wrote:
On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:
On May 27, 3:23*am, Gary Forbis wrote:



On May 26, 10:18*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Gary Forbis" wrote in message

...
So, Is the conservative or liberal point of view to impose their will
upon the woman?

Consider this. *Suppose a quadraplegic takes up residence in your
home without your permission. *Do you then become responsible
for the care of this human being? *If you say no then why does
a woman become responsbile for some human who takes up
residency in her womb without her permission?

Has she not, by virtue of having had the requisite coitus, given defacto
permission (rape notwithstanding)?

No. *pregnancy is no more a result of coitus than becoming a
millionare is a result of playing lotto. *

- You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not
responsible
- for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

Yeah That The Liberal-Fascist {Male Theology}
Abortion Escape Clause : It's All Her Fault !
.
it's a sad excuse for a human being : that will
not take responsibility for his issue ~ RHF


Just follow the thread. This is the conclusion one might reach based
on the sexist poster's premise, in this case pro-choice for women
only. When asked if a women is responsible for pregnancy if she has
intercourse, the poster's answer was "no". I've simply asked a follow-
up question based on the same premise and your response is gender
based.

On May 28, 10:50*am, Moderator wrote:
~ RHF wrote:
On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:
On May 27, 3:23*am, Gary Forbis wrote:

On May 26, 10:18*pm, "Brenda Ann" wrote:

"Gary Forbis" wrote in message

...
So, Is the conservative or liberal point of view to impose their will
upon the woman?

Consider this. *Suppose a quadraplegic takes up residence in your
home without your permission. *Do you then become responsible
for the care of this human being? *If you say no then why does
a woman become responsbile for some human who takes up
residency in her womb without her permission?

Has she not, by virtue of having had the requisite coitus, given defacto
permission (rape notwithstanding)?

No. *pregnancy is no more a result of coitus than becoming a
millionare is a result of playing lotto. *

- You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not
responsible
- for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

Yeah That The Liberal-Fascist {Male Theology}
Abortion Escape Clause : It's All Her Fault !
*.
it's a sad excuse for a human being : that will
not take responsibility for his issue ~ RHF

Just follow the thread. This is the conclusion one might reach based
on the sexist poster's premise, in this case pro-choice for women
only. When asked if a women is responsible for pregnancy if she has
intercourse, the poster's answer was "no". I've simply asked a follow-
up question based on the same premise

- and your response is gender based.

To Deny My Gender -is- To Deny My Self ~ RHF

On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:

You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not responsible
for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

While there can be no meeting of the minds between the mother or
father and the life created there can be a meeting of the minds
between
the mother and the father concerning any life created. It behooves
the
couple to make a contract concerning such matters.

We can move down the road to what obligations a society can force
upon an individual if you'd like. We'd need to start from basic
principles
concerning such matters so we know these principles are consistently
applied in all our decisions. Both the left and the right seem to be
helter-skelter on the application of first principles.

On May 28, 5:12*am, Gary Forbis wrote:
On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:

You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not responsible
for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

While there can be no meeting of the minds between the mother or
father and the life created there can be a meeting of the minds
between
the mother and the father concerning any life created. *It behooves
the
couple to make a contract concerning such matters.

We can move down the road to what obligations a society can force
upon an individual if you'd like. *We'd need to start from basic
principles
concerning such matters so we know these principles are consistently
applied in all our decisions. *Both the left and the right seem to be
helter-skelter on the application of first principles.

GF - Classic Liberal Secular Society Thinking :
* make a contract
* obligations a society
* force upon an individual
* principles are consistently applied in all our decisions
* application of first principles

Where is the Humanity and Love {Sense of Family}
Between a Man and a Women and the New Life
{Children} That They Have Created in Your Thinking ?
* Humanity
* Love
* New Life
* Family
* Society

On May 28, 11:05*am, "~ RHF" wrote:
On May 28, 5:12*am, Gary Forbis wrote:





On May 27, 3:40*pm, Meldon wrote:

You heard it here first! Men by simply having sex, are not responsible
for unwanted pregnancies because there’s no guarantee of pregnancy.

While there can be no meeting of the minds between the mother or
father and the life created there can be a meeting of the minds
between
the mother and the father concerning any life created. *It behooves
the
couple to make a contract concerning such matters.

We can move down the road to what obligations a society can force
upon an individual if you'd like. *We'd need to start from basic
principles
concerning such matters so we know these principles are consistently
applied in all our decisions. *Both the left and the right seem to be
helter-skelter on the application of first principles.

GF - Classic Liberal Secular Society Thinking :
* make a contract
* obligations a society
* force upon an individual
* principles are consistently applied in all our decisions
* application of first principles

Where is the Humanity and Love {Sense of Family}
Between a Man and a Women and the New Life
{Children} That They Have Created in Your Thinking ?
* Humanity
* Love
* New Life
* Family
* Society

In the case of those who would chose abortion,
no where. If you think society should oblige a
woman to carry to term you are considering
where a society can force an obligation onto
a woman. Where is the love in that?

The weather outside is cool.What happened to all that global warming?
cuhulin

wrote:
The weather outside is cool.What happened to all that global warming?
cuhulin


The scientists predict cooling in many places (including N. America) and
warming in others. Agriculture will quickly collapse. There will be
famine, displacement, wars, and megadeath. Hoopla!