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The Lowe's store near me has seven or eight outdoor storage buildings on
display in the parking lot.There is one of them I like, it has sort of a
gambrel roof with a storage loft.I think it is the 10 foot by ten foot
Rainier model shed.Next time I go over there, I am taking my tape
measure with me and do some measuring.I can build a storage shed like
that one for my back yard for less money.
cuhulin

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Default Fascism's Legacy: Liberalism

On 16 June, 21:49, Barry wrote:
On Jun 16, 2:16*pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington"
wrote:



What textbook answer?


Todays textbooks are now written by Ne0-Kommies. *Take your Ne0-Kommie
propaganda textbooks and shove them up your professorships's fat lazy
ass!
Professor, my ass - ROTFLMAO!!!!

In the original posting I cited an academic
article.


So what! *That doesn't mean squat! *Most Liberal Fascists cite
"academic" articles because most academics are Liberal Fascists and
most authors of academic articles and textbooks are Liberal Fascists.
They all write Circle-Jerk logik - exactly how your close Komrad and
Kolleague writes - Noam Chomsky - commonly citing himself. *Citing
oneself in any arguement is another sure sign your are conversing with
a Liberal Fascist.

What matters is what is being observed - Liberal Fascism, today, right
now - Barak0 "Hussein" 0baMa0
Not what "you" THINK, "Barry Worthington",PhD - Piled highest &
Deepest!

Now, unless you have anything of value to say, please go away...


WE are not going anywhere. *WE are staying right here to be in your
face a long, long time.

Dr. Barry Worthington


Ja, HEIL HITLER!


How old are you?

At the moment, you are being very silly....in fact, rather boring.
Now, as you are incapable of arguing a point, you are wasting my time.

Goodbye,

Dr. Barry Worthington


Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From
Mussolini to the Politics of Change
(NOW AVAILABLE IN PAPERBACK)http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascis...i-Politics/dp/...


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On Jun 17, 2:45*am, "Dr. Barry Worthington"
wrote:
On 17 June, 00:00, "~ RHF" wrote:



On Jun 16, 12:16*pm, "Dr. Barry Worthington"
wrote:


On 16 June, 18:28, "~ RHF" wrote:


On Jun 16, 9:54*am, "Dr. Barry Worthington"
wrote:


On 16 June, 17:20, "~ RHF" wrote:


On Jun 16, 9:15*am, m II wrote: Dr. Barry Worthington wrote:
Indeed. Let's explore this further.The origin of this garbage appears
to be the following article.


- Casting pearls before swine, Doctor?
-
- mike


Try to use 1930s Definitions to Deny that
Liberal-Fascism Does Exist in the 21st
Century is an Tired Old Argument.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...d91b4a2e4429c9


I have tried to respond to your original reply, but the system will
not let me. So I will answer here.


- Firstly, I expect you to answer the points
- that I made in my posting.


Why is that some sort of 'rule' ?


Why,yes! It's one of the rules of argument that most of us follow. Not
you, it seems....


- If you cannot,


-or- Simply 'choose' not to.


- I am not prepared to to deal with a lot of
- citations from a variety of sites that appear
- to be hagiography of Jonah Goldberg.


Ditto back at you.


Ditto? What relevant points have you made?


- Do you have an opinion on the Coupland article?


Nah just my 'opinions' -ibid-


So you can't really answer my criticism of the original posting?
Surprise, surprise!


Try to use 1930s Definitions to Deny that
Liberal-Fascism Does Exist in the 21st
Century is an Tired Old Argument.http://groups.google.com/group/rec.....d91b4a2e4429c9
Yes, you don't have to cite this junk again. Look, we cannot avoid
talking about 1930s definitions, since Wells used this term in the
1930s. We have to understand what he meant by it. It's a largely
forgotten historical episode, that is until Goldberg discovered it and
thought it suited his purpose. He distorted Wells's concept to suit
his own ends. If you read Coupland (and others who have researched
this period) you will know that Goldberg is a blithering idiot.


Or are you just conent to parrot any amount of junk?


DrBW - 'parrot' 'junk' now now be nice.


But that is what you seem to do. Don't you have any opinions of your
own?


- Secondly, I should point out that a number
- of us have had problems with the wikipedia
- site entry for Liberal Fascism, since someone
- is determined to revert material that is posted
- about H.G. Wells on this matter.
- Dr. Barry Worthington


Yeah WikiPedia ain't perfect. "Liberal Fascism"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism
Is about the Book : Liberal Fascism : The Secret
History of the American Left, From Mussolini to
the Politics of Meaning -by- Jonah Goldberg


Indeed it is, since only Goldberg has used the term since the 1930s.
Now if you take the bother to read the actual article, you will find
that Goldberg himself claims to have been inspired by Wells's concept..
But some idiot seems to revert every attempt that we make to compare
Wells's views with Goldberg's....


* Positive Views
* Negative Views
Denying that "Liberal-Fascism" Exists and
the Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist" in
the 21st Century does not change the Fact
or 'possibility' that :
"Liberal-Fascism" Can It Exist ?
"Liberal-Fascism" Does It Exist ?
* Words and Their Meanings Do Evolve
with the Passage of Time
* Social and Political Movements Do Change
as People Migrate to and from them.


Yes. People do use terms wrongly, and they become insults. But it is a
fantasy to suggest that the underlying ideology of fascism changed as
a result.


consider the possibilities and realities
beyond a textbook answer ~ RHF


What textbook answer? In the original posting I cited an academic
article.


- - - Now, unless you have anything of value to say,
- - - please go away... Dr. Barry Worthington

- - DrBW - Here To Stay Here To Stay ~ RHF
- - -ps- the value of being here
- - *.
- - Try to use 1930s Definitions to Deny that
- - Liberal-Fascism Does Exist in the 21st
- - Century is an Tired Old Argument.http://groups.google.com/group/
rec.radio.shortwave/msg/7fd91b4a2e4429c9
- - *.
- - "Liberal Fascism"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Fascism
- - Is about the Book : Liberal Fascism : The Secret
- - History of the American Left, From Mussolini to
- - the Politics of Meaning -by- Jonah Goldberg
- - * Positive Views
- - * Negative Views
- -
- - Denying that "Liberal-Fascism" Exists and
- - the Validity of the Term "Liberal-Fascist" in
- - the 21st Century does not change the Fact
- - or 'possibility' that :
- - "Liberal-Fascism" Can It Exist ?
- - "Liberal-Fascism" Does It Exist ?
- - 1st - Words and Their Meanings Do Evolve
- - with the Passage of Time
- - 2nd - Social and Political Movements Do Change
- - as People Migrate to and from them.
- -
- - consider the possibilities and realities
- - beyond a old 'liberal' and old 'fascism'
- - morphing into the new 'liberal-fascism' ~ RHF
- - *.
- - FWIW - Please Note the -Hyphen- between the
- - two words 'liberal' and 'fascism' linking them
- - into One Idea {Concept} "Liberal-Fascism"
- - "Liberal-Fascism" with over 6-Million 'Hits'
- - it's a Virtual Reality in the 21st Century.
- - *.
- - Liberal Fascism :
- - The Secret History of the American Left,
- - From Mussolini to the Politics of Change
- - http://www.google.com/search?q=Liberal-Fascism
- - "Liberal-Fascism" with over 6-Million 'hits'
- - it's a virtual reality in the 21st Century.

- If you are not prepared to argue with me,

DrBW 'argue'
Opinions are Opinions -and- I am of the 'opinion' that :
1st - Words and Their Meanings Do Evolve
with the Passage of Time
2nd - Social and Political Movements Do Change
as People Migrate to and from them.
RESULT - With over 6-Million 'hits' for the term
"Liberal-Fascism" is a virtual reality in the 21st Century.
[ Can't Kill the Idea {Concept} By Denying It. ]

- you can bugger off and stop wasting my time!

DrBW 'you {i} can bugger-off'
That's not likely.

DrBW 'stop wasting my {your} time'
Only You Can Do That -unless- You have
surrendered control of your life over to me.

- Goodbye,
- Dr. Barry Worthington

truly let your goodbye be your goodbye
while i will simply say bye bye for now ~ RHF
-ps- For I remain RHF a 'Really Happy Fella'
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On Jun 17, 10:55 pm, Day Brown wrote:
Barry wrote:
Liberalfascismsounds like an oxymoron – or a term for conservatives
to insult liberals. Actually, it was coined by a socialist writer,
none other than the respected and influential left-winger H.G. Wells,
who in 1931 called on fellow progressives to become "liberal fascists"
and "enlightened Nazis." Really.


Let me pour in a new flavor and stir the pot. Women are taking over.
Their use of the language is less academic and more accepting of the
ambiguity of people, their ideologies, and organizations. However, they
too suffer from group think and even worse political correctness.

But consider where the rubber actually hits the road, in a court hearing
for sanity, where they can present the drivel of insane rants to prove
that a deviant thinker needs meds and better case management. It will
not matter whether the government thinks it is liberal, conservative, or
for that matter, fascist.

This is not a trial by jury. You dont get an attorney. They get to pick
the judge. If you respond with flaming rather than polite discourse of
ideas you do not like, they will suggest this is typical for neurotics.

Women are more aware of how men will corrupt any system you can design
in order to get the perks and money for status symbols hoping for more
sex with younger more attractive hotties.

The history of matriarchic political and economic systems is obscure
largely because patriarchic academia went along with what the scribes in
the pay of an alpha male military elite wanted recorded. But whether the
system was more socialistic or more capitalistic, we see a lower cost of
management with relatively better conditions for the lower classes.


American socialists spread fascism worldwide. Francis Bellamy (along
with other American socialists, including Francis' famous cousin
Edward Bellamy) spread fascist symbolism in the United States first,
and then globally. http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html

The Bellamys wanted government to take over all schools. That is why a
flag is over every school and in every classroom, accompanied by
robotic chanting every morning for 12 years of every American child's
life. http://rexcurry.net/pledge-allegianc...allegiance.jpg

That behavior influenced Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts (from
1907) and other Americans who spread the USA's "Nazi" salute
worldwide, and the swastika, and robotic chanting to flags in military
formation. http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouting.html

The early salute to the flag in the Pledge of Allegiance was the
notorious stiff-arm salute. The salute (and the robotic chanting to
the flag) began in 1892 with Francis when he was a self-proclaimed
American socialist in the Nationalism movement. It was adopted later
by the National Socialist German Workers Party.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html

The flag of the U.S. government is fasciate. The flag's 13 fasciae
(bands or stripes) are red and white. The fasciated flag's authority
and its early stiff-arm salute were reinforced by the U.S.
government's use of the fasces symbol. The government still uses the
fasces today.

The fasces [fas-eez] symbol shows a bundle of rods banded or fastened
around an ax with the blade projecting. The words "fasten" and "band"
are used because they are related to the word "Fascism." The fasces
symbolized how everyone was bound to the authoritarianism of ancient
Rome.

Here is another reason why the socialist role in Fascism is
fascinating: "fascinating" means "spellbinding" (fastened or banded by
a spell), making the words related to "fasces." The fascinating role
of American socialists includes the Theosophical Society, Freemasons,
swastika symbols and the spellbinding effect of socialist dogma for
seducing groups and enslaving and killing millions of people
worldwide.

In rural Italy to this day a woman who suspects her husband of
infidelity will consult a strega, who will give her a fascino, a charm
to stop him from straying.

Long ago, money was socialized in the U.S. (the Federal Reserve Act
was imposed in 1913). The fasces is still commonly seen on some 25
cent coins. http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism2a.jpg In 1915,
fasces appeared on an Indian head gold coin in the talons of an eagle.
In 1916, fasces appeared on the Mercury dime.

It was much later that the symbol was adopted by Mussolini when he was
a well-known socialist leader. http://rexcurry.net/mussolini.html

The fasces symbol appears in Congress http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism4a.jpg
and is used in other government seals and symbols
http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism3b.jpg

The fasces is on the seal of the Rome Academy where Francis Bellamy
(1855-1932) attended school. http://rexcurry.net/fascist-flag.jpg
Francis resided in Rome, New York. The Rome Free Academy exists today
and its seal continues to display two fasces. Many cities in the state
of New York have names from classical history (Troy, Ithaca, Syracuse,
Utica, Rome) and that is why New York is the "Empire State," a
reference to the Roman empire, and origin of the term "Empire State
Building" for New York City's famous landmark.

The Pledge's right-arm salute was repeated in early movies containing
fictional Roman scenes. Movies were new worldwide wonders that amazed
and influenced everyone (including the socialist Mussolini in Italy
and the leader of the National Socialist German Workers' Party).
http://rexcurry.net/american-philolo...ation-apa.html

All of the above contributed to the Roman salute myth (the myth that
the stiff-arm salute was an ancient Roman salute), debunked by the
etymologist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Pledge of Allegiance Secrets").
http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-met...um-of-art.html

The stiff-armed American salute spread through various groups
including the Theosophical Society and Freemasons that supported or
were supported by Edward Bellamy and Francis Bellamy.

In 1888, Edward Bellamy authored "Looking Backward" and it became an
international bestseller, translated into every major language,
including German and Italian.
Bellamy's book was known as the bible of National Socialism and it
inspired Nationalism movements worldwide. The Bellamy's touted
"military socialism." Madame Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical
Society, openly endorsed Bellamy's book. Her group worked with
Bellamy's Nationalism movement.
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame...l-society.html

The swastika symbol was used by the Theosophical Society (from 1875)
during the time when the Bellamys, Freemasons and the Theosophical
Society worked together to promote socialism. http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html

American socialists bear some blame for altering the notorious symbol
used as overlapping S-letters for "socialism" under the National
Socialist German Workers Party. http://rexcurry.net/swastika3clear.jpg

As German socialism's notorious flag symbol, the swastika was
deliberately turned 45 degrees to the horizontal and always oriented
in the S-direction. Similar alphabetic symbolism is still visible as
Volkswagen logos. http://rexcurry.net/swastika-audi-logo.JPG

Near the same period, the well-known and long-time socialist Benito
Mussolini began to mimick American socialists in their use of the
stiff-arm salute, robotic chanting to flags, the use of the fasces as
a symbol of government, and the glorification of ancient Rome (or
myths about Rome). In 1921, Mussolini (who acquired his title "il
duce" -leader- when he was known only as a socialist, long before his
new f-word for socialist faction) created a new sub-group called Fasci
di combattimento. The term "fascio" was the Italian word for workers'
groups, peasant organizations, labor unions and the other socialist
groups where Mussolini had developed a large following. It meant
"band," or people banding together, and referred to his socialist band
of combat. It is similar to the word "faction" in that Mussolini's
group was another of many socialist-inspired factions.

When Mussolini chose the ancient Roman fasces as a symbol of his
socialist group, he was at the same time playing with the similarity
of the words fascio and fasces, choosing an ancient symbol, and
drawing a parallel between it and the socialists who had banded
together, spellbound by Mussolini's leadership.

Another well-known socialist at that time was the leader of the
National Socialist Workers Party in Germany (Hitler acquired the title
"Furher" -leader- when he fascinated socialist groups, long before
others applied new terms to his socialism). He had expanded the name
of the party from "German Workers Party" at the same time that the
swastika was adopted to represent S-letters banded together and
symbolizing socialists banding together as the NSDAP.
http://rexcurry.net/swastika-hakenkr...ictionary.html

An American socialist group supported German socialists, and it was
named the "German-American Bund" (German American Band or "Faction").

Mussolini's evolution of the fasces is similar to Hitler's evolution
of an old symbol, the hakenkreuz (hooked cross) into modern alphabetic
symbolism as "S" letters for "socialism," as shown in Dr. Curry's
work. http://rexcurry.net/fascism-third-re...wastika456.jpg

In late 1937, Mussolini continued to work with other socialists,
including the National Socialist German Workers Party. Mussolini
visited Germany in 1937 and pledged himself to support the National
Socialist German Workers’ Party. In 1939, the National Socialist
German Workers' Party joined as allies with the Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics to invade Poland in a pact to divide up Europe,
spreading WWII.

During the second of the Dark Ages, socialism (a.k.a. Fascism) became
fashionable, with fancy military uniforms, marching parades, and flag
waving adoration. It led to modern inquisitions and the socialist
Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): 60 million slaughtered
under the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; 50 million under the
Peoples' Republic of China; 20 million under the National Socialist
German Workers' Party. The worst inquisitions were the modern
inquisitions (the socialist inquisitions), and they were the
deadliest. Socialism/Fascism became unfashionable.

The Dark Age also refers to the period in Europe from the fall of
Rome. The socialist Dark Age resulted from mimicking ancient Rome -
and myths about Rome - as if to resurrect them.

American socialists had revived the fasces (and the swastika) and what
it represented: fastening, binding and enslaving individuals to a
centralized leviathan. Socialism fastens everyone to involuntary
government programs and modern slavery. It binds everyone to
bureaucracy.

America is still the worst example in the world of bizarre laws that
lead robotic chanting to the fasciate federal flag in government
schools (socialist schools) every day for 12 years of every child's
life. It has changed generations of Americans from libertarians to
authoritarians.

The ax in the fasces represents the constant threat of violence toward
all who desire freedom.
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On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:25:39 -0700, News Journalism wrote:

On Jun 17, 10:55 pm, Day Brown wrote:
Barry wrote:
Liberalfascismsounds like an oxymoron – or a term for conservatives
to insult liberals. Actually, it was coined by a socialist writer,
none other than the respected and influential left-winger H.G. Wells,
who in 1931 called on fellow progressives to become "liberal
fascists" and "enlightened Nazis." Really.


So let me get this straight.... Since one asshole used the word fascism
for its warlike unity of purpose connotations wen trying to organize some
left wing moonbats we are supposed to utterly change the meaning of
fascism and socialism so as to make them contemporary bedfellows. Is
that about it?

Your attempt to call political parties and political movements, other
then latter day Republicans, "fascist" is noted. The Republican Party of
the United States of America is the most similar organization to fascism
of any and all groups on this planet. Labor unions are not fascist and
are fundamentally opposed to the central ideals of fascism. The call for
unity is not the hallmark of fascism any more than the call for freedom
and liberty are the hallmark of pseudo capitalism. The call for unity
exists in every form or organized endeavor.


Let me pour in a new flavor and stir the pot. Women are taking over.
Their use of the language is less academic and more accepting of the
ambiguity of people, their ideologies, and organizations. However, they
too suffer from group think and even worse political correctness.


Which again, has not a damned thing to do with fascism.

But consider where the rubber actually hits the road, in a court
hearing for sanity, where they can present the drivel of insane rants
to prove that a deviant thinker needs meds and better case management.
It will not matter whether the government thinks it is liberal,
conservative, or for that matter, fascist.

This is not a trial by jury. You dont get an attorney. They get to pick
the judge. If you respond with flaming rather than polite discourse of
ideas you do not like, they will suggest this is typical for neurotics.

Women are more aware of how men will corrupt any system you can design
in order to get the perks and money for status symbols hoping for more
sex with younger more attractive hotties.

The history of matriarchic political and economic systems is obscure
largely because patriarchic academia went along with what the scribes
in the pay of an alpha male military elite wanted recorded. But whether
the system was more socialistic or more capitalistic, we see a lower
cost of management with relatively better conditions for the lower
classes.


American socialists spread fascism worldwide.


Here we go again: The effort to paint the Republican party is something
other than fascist by associating socialism with fascism. The actual
definition of fascism tells us that fascism is the antithesis of
socialism. But the conservatives and the latter day Republicans are
doing all they can to redefine the word:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pgc.a...i-fascism.html --
...Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the
materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained
simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups
and by the change and development in the means and instruments of
production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in
heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive,
direct or indirect.
------------------------------------------------------------
The above link and the excerpt are from an encyclopedia entry created by
none other then Benito Mussolini in which he describes "fascism".


Francis Bellamy (along
with other American socialists, including Francis' famous cousin Edward
Bellamy) spread fascist symbolism in the United States first, and then
globally. http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html



If you want to see some real serious brain damaged crap go to the top
link of the stupidity http://rexcurry.net
The newspeak dictionary project is alive and well.


The Bellamys wanted government to take over all schools. That is why a
flag is over every school and in every classroom, accompanied by robotic
chanting every morning for 12 years of every American child's life.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-allegianc...allegiance.jpg

That behavior influenced Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts (from
1907) and other Americans who spread the USA's "Nazi" salute worldwide,
and the swastika, and robotic chanting to flags in military formation.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouting.html

The early salute to the flag in the Pledge of Allegiance was the
notorious stiff-arm salute. The salute (and the robotic chanting to the
flag) began in 1892 with Francis when he was a self-proclaimed American
socialist in the Nationalism movement. It was adopted later by the
National Socialist German Workers Party.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html

The flag of the U.S. government is fasciate. The flag's 13 fasciae
(bands or stripes) are red and white. The fasciated flag's authority and
its early stiff-arm salute were reinforced by the U.S. government's use
of the fasces symbol. The government still uses the fasces today.

The fasces [fas-eez] symbol shows a bundle of rods banded or fastened
around an ax with the blade projecting. The words "fasten" and "band"
are used because they are related to the word "Fascism." The fasces
symbolized how everyone was bound to the authoritarianism of ancient
Rome.

Here is another reason why the socialist role in Fascism is fascinating:


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A few years ago, some divorced Lezzies lived next door to me.They had
the ''group think'' for sure! I miss those Lezzies, those wimmins were a
lot of fun to talk to.I learned some things from them I never knew
before.
cuhulin

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A lotta guys dont get it. When you look into matriarchy and the faith in
the Great Earth Mother, aka Gaia, Potnia, Hera, Juno, Venus, Dianna,
Astarte, Sophia, Aphrodite, Freya, Brigit... and many more, you find out
there are so many names cause nobody went to war over what the name
should be.

They didnt have jackasses trying to define terms for everyone else; it
was a system built on consensus. And we see them in the postings all the
time, with their own definitions of terms so they can have strawmen.

Its one of the problems going on in Iran right now. Any top down system,
be it fascism, socialism, capitalism, communism, or whatever is in
trouble because the party line can no longer be sold without being taken
apart in venues like this line by line, to see what it says, and what it
fails to say.
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On 21 June, 16:03, Michael Coburn wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:25:39 -0700, News Journalism wrote:
On Jun 17, 10:55 pm, Day Brown wrote:
Barry wrote:
Liberalfascismsounds like an oxymoron – or a term for conservatives
to insult liberals. Actually, it was coined by a socialist writer,
none other than the respected and influential left-winger H.G. Wells,
who in 1931 called on fellow progressives to become "liberal
fascists" and "enlightened Nazis." Really.


So let me get this straight.... *Since one asshole used the word fascism
for its warlike unity of purpose connotations wen trying to organize some
left wing moonbats we are supposed to utterly change the meaning of
fascism and socialism so as to make them contemporary bedfellows. *Is
that about it?


Wells wasn't an "asshole", but a very intelligent man. But, yes,
that's about it. He was interested in the tactical use of force to
bring about his ideals, but that's as far as it went. He was repelled
by the actual fascist ideology. Goldberg has found this rather arcane
and forgotton episode from the 1930s and re-fashioned it for his own
purposes.

Your attempt to call political parties and political movements, other
then latter day Republicans, "fascist" is noted. *The Republican Party of
the United States of America is the most similar organization to fascism
of any and all groups on this planet. *Labor unions are not fascist and
are fundamentally opposed to the central ideals of fascism. *The call for
unity is not the hallmark of fascism any more than the call for freedom
and liberty are the hallmark of pseudo capitalism. *The call for unity
exists in every form or organized endeavor.


I don't think that your Republican leaders are fascists. But I do
think that they are very stupid....

Dr. Barry Worthington
*

Let me pour in a new flavor and stir the pot. Women are taking over.
Their use of the language is less academic and more accepting of the
ambiguity of people, their ideologies, and organizations. However, they
too suffer from group think and even worse political correctness.


Which again, has not a damned thing to do with fascism.





But consider where the rubber actually hits the road, in a court
hearing for sanity, where they can present the drivel of insane rants
to prove that a deviant thinker needs meds and better case management.
It will not matter whether the government thinks it is liberal,
conservative, or for that matter, fascist.


This is not a trial by jury. You dont get an attorney. They get to pick
the judge. If you respond with flaming rather than polite discourse of
ideas you do not like, they will suggest this is typical for neurotics..


Women are more aware of how men will corrupt any system you can design
in order to get the perks and money for status symbols hoping for more
sex with younger more attractive hotties.


The history of matriarchic political and economic systems is obscure
largely because patriarchic academia went along with what the scribes
in the pay of an alpha male military elite wanted recorded. But whether
the system was more socialistic or more capitalistic, we see a lower
cost of management with relatively better conditions for the lower
classes.

*American socialists spread fascism worldwide.


Here we go again: * The effort to paint the Republican party is something
other than fascist by associating socialism with fascism. *The actual
definition of fascism tells us that fascism is the antithesis of
socialism. *But the conservatives and the latter day Republicans are
doing all they can to redefine the word:

http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pgc.a...fascism.html--
..Fascism [is] the complete opposite of…Marxian Socialism, the
materialist conception of history of human civilization can be explained
simply through the conflict of interests among the various social groups
and by the change and development in the means and instruments of
production.... Fascism, now and always, believes in holiness and in
heroism; that is to say, in actions influenced by no economic motive,
direct or indirect.
------------------------------------------------------------
*The above link and the excerpt are from an encyclopedia entry created by
none other then Benito Mussolini in which he describes "fascism".

Francis Bellamy (along
with other American socialists, including Francis' famous cousin Edward
Bellamy) spread fascist symbolism in the United States first, and then
globally.http://rexcurry.net/fascism=socialism.html


If you want to see some real serious brain damaged crap go to the top
link of the stupidity *http://rexcurry.net*
The newspeak dictionary project is alive and well.







The Bellamys wanted government to take over all schools. That is why a
flag is over every school and in every classroom, accompanied by robotic
chanting every morning for 12 years of every American child's life.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-allegianc...allegiance.jpg


That behavior influenced Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts (from
1907) and other Americans who spread the USA's "Nazi" salute worldwide,
and the swastika, and robotic chanting to flags in military formation.
http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouting.html


The early salute to the flag in the Pledge of Allegiance was the
notorious stiff-arm salute. The salute (and the robotic chanting to the
flag) began in 1892 with Francis when he was a self-proclaimed American
socialist in the Nationalism movement. It was adopted later by the
National Socialist German Workers Party.
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html


The flag of the U.S. government is fasciate. The flag's 13 fasciae
(bands or stripes) are red and white. The fasciated flag's authority and
its early stiff-arm salute were reinforced by the U.S. government's use
of the fasces symbol. The government still uses the fasces today.


The fasces [fas-eez] symbol shows a bundle of rods banded or fastened
around an ax with the blade projecting. The words "fasten" and "band"
are used because they are related to the word "Fascism." *The fasces
symbolized how everyone was bound to the authoritarianism of ancient
Rome.


Here is another reason why the socialist role in Fascism is fascinating:


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Day Brown wrote:
A lotta guys dont get it. When you look into matriarchy and the faith in
the Great Earth Mother, aka Gaia, Potnia, Hera, Juno, Venus, Dianna,
Astarte, Sophia, Aphrodite, Freya, Brigit... and many more, you find out
there are so many names cause nobody went to war over what the name
should be.

They didnt have jackasses trying to define terms for everyone else; it
was a system built on consensus. And we see them in the postings all the
time, with their own definitions of terms so they can have strawmen.

Its one of the problems going on in Iran right now. Any top down system,
be it fascism, socialism, capitalism, communism, or whatever is in
trouble because the party line can no longer be sold without being taken
apart in venues like this line by line, to see what it says, and what it
fails to say.


Hence libertarian socialism.
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California Collapsing.
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/r...?ArtNum=267450

Article links to http://moneyandmarkets.com

y'all Californians can thank the dems and libs for that.Not only in
California, but also all over America.
cuhulin

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