in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, On 21 Jun 2009, Michael Coburn said
about:
Who Is "Fascist"?


On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:29:13 -0700, Chas. Chan wrote:

On Jun 18, 2:54Â*am, (Doug Bashford) wrote:

.................snip

I would by far rather have the Private Sector run government than have
The Governement run the private sector.

Could be. But that's off topic.
That is a false, manufactured dichotomy.
....either a red herring or strawman,
I'm guessing from sloppy thinking due to
kneejerk grabbing at straws.

Can we stay on topic?


Read "The Road to Sefdom".

You seem to have answered your own question: Mussolini was a fascist.

Your ridiculous unsupported claims that Roosevelt was a "socialist" and
that "he recognized that fascism was the only means to true Socialism"
are your own demented creations.

Yep. See my above comment. ...Off topic.
However, I'm not up on the latest LP Libertarian
"talking points." The LP completly robs Libertarians
from the freedom to communicate with outsiders by
redefining key vocabulary terms (such as socialism,
taxes, government...google: Libertarian "Orwellian Linguistics")


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The reality is that socialism is a political manifestation in which the
government _OWNS_ the means of production. Fascism is ab-use of
government by the wealthy and powerful in league with the church to
maintain and enhance the power of the owner class. These two political
contrivances are entirely different.

Bingo. To further clarify, socialism is against Capitalism,
but Capitalism is part of Fascism.

** And above all Fascism denies that class-war can
** be the preponderant force in the transformation of
** society....
** --Benito Mussolini, (Fascist dictator), from The
** Internet Modern History Sourcebook

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"Fascism should more properly be called
corporatism, since it is the merger
of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

"We stand for the maintenance of private
property... We shall protect free enterprise as the
most expedient, or rather the sole possible
economic order."
Adolph Hitler

"You don't need a totalitarian dictatorship like
Hitler's to get by with murder ... you can do it in a
democracy as long as the Congress and the people
Congress is supposed to represent don't give a
damn?"
William Shirer, author of
"The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", 1973



Wisdom from 1938:

"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people
tolerate the growth of private power to a point where
it becomes stronger than the democratic state itself.
That in it's essence is fascism: ownership of the
government by an individual, by a group or any
controlling private powers."
-- Franklin Delano Roosevelt, message to congress,
proposing the "Standard Oil" Monopoly Investigation, 1938

* The insane twist the facts to fit their world view.
* The rational change their world view to fit the facts.


- "Fascism should more properly be called
- corporatism, since it is the merger
- of state and corporate power."
-- - Benito Mussolini, father of fascism.