CaltechPhD wrote:

Now that President Obama has given his speech to the school children,
it is obvious why the Republicans were so adamantly opposed to it.
President Obama was clearly trying to indoctrinate the students with
those liberal values that are hated so much by the Republicans: hard
work, perserverance, fair play, etc.

Is that a REAL PhD, or one of them Cracker Jack PhD's?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Sep 8, 8:53Â*am, Nick Danger wrote:
On Sep 7, 5:51 pm, Ross Archer wrote:

The text of the speech:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResou...SchoolRemarks/

In summary it says: Â*"Work hard in school. Â*Don't give up. Â*Just
because your circumstances are tough doesn't mean you don't have to
Â*try. Â*Wash your Â*hands and stay home from school if you're sick
this winter to help control the spread of disease."

Radical, Communist stuff, yeah. Â*LOL
N∅ ∅baMa∅ wrote:
You obviously havn't read the initial draft from this narcisist.

Just what, pray tell, does the 'initial' draft have to do with anything?
And by the way, you seem to have "conveniently" forgotten to cite a URL
for this supposed initial draft.

* The speech he is to give (*with* URL cited above) is basically saying
"Stay in school, do well, don't quit". Are you against that? And telling
kids to "stay in school" makes him a "narcissist"? You are one strange duck.

* Laura Bush is for Obama's speech -- Â*and she said that her
father-in-law, George H. W. Bush gave virtually the same speech to
school kids. How odd that I don't recall you whining about that.

The only conclusion that we can draw is that YOU seem to be either a
sore loser, a racist or at best, a paranoid kooktard. Maybe even "All of
the above".

D'Oh ! the Teaching Guides {Teach-In}
are Pure Obama-Ganda© ~ RHF

On Sep 7, 4:01Â*pm, N∅ ∅baMa∅
wrote:
On Sep 7, 5:56Â*pm, Ross Archer wrote:





On Sep 6, 7:50Â*pm, "Chas. Chan" wrote:

American news outlets (well at least those not in Barack Obama's lap)
are filled with criticism on the Department of Education plans to
bring Obama's agenda into our nation's classrooms. The ploy to reach
and teach our children through a presidential speech and through
instruction guides (little red books?) appears to be stalled for now
as parents -- if nor educational unions -- resist the idea of brain-
swaying our children into writing paeans to Obama and his agenda.
However, few have wondered how such an idea ever emerged in the first
place. We do have some clues and they are unsettling.

I have previously reported that this idea of inculcating revolutionary
goals in our children's minds stems from the philosophy of Bill Ayers,
Obama's friend, collaborator, and campaign supporter. But Obama's
ideological mentors appear to reach farther back to an influential
radical Italian communist, Antonio Gramsci.

[...]

A cadre of like-minded educators and national service administrators
across the country share the same core commitment to transforming
themselves from imparters of knowledge to transformers of society. The
"change" agenda trains students to think only about what they should
do for Obama -- and rarely to contemplate how his powers and ambitions
should be limited and restrained.

[Bill] Ayers preached his education-as-"social justice" agenda to his
"comrades" at the World Education Forum in Caracas, Venezuela, three
years ago:

"This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of
my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring
fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the
Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms
underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President [Hugo]
Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of
revolution, and I've come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both
the Venezuelan and the international struggle -- I look forward to
seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of
capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and
deeply humane."

[...]

Who was Gramsci? Â*He was a leader of the Communist party of Italy who
called upon "intellectuals" to produce hegemony over society through
control of education; he viewed schools as an apparatus that radicals
can use to radicalize the young and turn them into communists. He had
a long-term approach, realizing that it may take years of a "long
march through institutions" to train a proper Communist.

Americans versed in Obama Studies may recognize the name of Gramsci.
He has inspired not just the tyrant of Caracas but also inspires the
man in the Oval Office.

[...]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...ing_bunch.html

So, now that the speech has been released and you were completely
wrong to accuse Obama of attempting brainwashing, an apology and
admission of error will be forthcoming.

Right?
Or are you not honorable enough?- Hide quoted text -

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Kiss our asses! Â*Bend over for 0baMa0's DiK!- Hide quoted text -

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Yes, your ass-holey-ness.

On Sep 7, 4:15*pm, Ross Archer wrote:
On Sep 7, 2:51*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:



On Sep 6, 11:40*pm, Ross Archer wrote:

On Sep 6, 7:50*pm, "Chas. Chan" wrote:

American news outlets (well at least those not in Barack Obama's lap)
are filled with criticism on the Department of Education plans to
bring Obama's agenda into our nation's classrooms. The ploy to reach
and teach our children through a presidential speech and through
instruction guides (little red books?) appears to be stalled for now
as parents -- if nor educational unions -- resist the idea of brain-
swaying our children into writing paeans to Obama and his agenda.
However, few have wondered how such an idea ever emerged in the first
place. We do have some clues and they are unsettling.

I have previously reported that this idea of inculcating revolutionary
goals in our children's minds stems from the philosophy of Bill Ayers,
Obama's friend, collaborator, and campaign supporter. But Obama's
ideological mentors appear to reach farther back to an influential
radical Italian communist, Antonio Gramsci.

[...]

A cadre of like-minded educators and national service administrators
across the country share the same core commitment to transforming
themselves from imparters of knowledge to transformers of society. The
"change" agenda trains students to think only about what they should
do for Obama -- and rarely to contemplate how his powers and ambitions
should be limited and restrained.

[Bill] Ayers preached his education-as-"social justice" agenda to his
"comrades" at the World Education Forum in Caracas, Venezuela, three
years ago:

"This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of
my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring
fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the
Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms
underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President [Hugo]
Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of
revolution, and I've come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both
the Venezuelan and the international struggle -- I look forward to
seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of
capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and
deeply humane."

[...]

Who was Gramsci? *He was a leader of the Communist party of Italy who
called upon "intellectuals" to produce hegemony over society through
control of education; he viewed schools as an apparatus that radicals
can use to radicalize the young and turn them into communists. He had
a long-term approach, realizing that it may take years of a "long
march through institutions" to train a proper Communist.

Americans versed in Obama Studies may recognize the name of Gramsci..
He has inspired not just the tyrant of Caracas but also inspires the
man in the Oval Office.

[...]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...ing_bunch.html

What a load of superheated hot air.

Obama's message will be to stay in school, apply yourself
academically, work hard, and graduate.
And to explain the importance of washing hands to limit the spread of
H1N1 flu.

There's no evidence in the man's past speeches or behavior to indicate
any rational reason for concern that Barack Obama's speech will be any
more slanted or political than when Ronald Reagan or George H. W. Bush
spoke to school children.

This "indoctrination" nonsense is *paranoia and crazy lunatic fringe
talk, pure and simple.

Get used it it: *America has moved back towards the political center.

On Sep 8, 11:40*am, Bob Dobbs wrote:
Nick Danger wrote:

The only conclusion that we can draw is that YOU seem to be either a
sore loser, a racist or at best, a paranoid kooktard. Maybe even "All of
the above".

All of the above and then some,
like a lemming brained mind numbed limpballs bot,
of the same sort that went tea bagging
without any clue as to what it was supposed to be about.

--

Operator Bob
Echo Charlie 42

"OB" - Better you should listen to
"20-Minutes with the President"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/twenty-m...president.html
-by- Charlie Sheen

Prez Obama you pledged Transparent Government
Operations so that the US Citizens would know the
Truth -so- Answer Charlie Sheen's Questions and
Give the American People "The Truth" about 9/11.

Prez Obama 'promised' Transparent Government
-so- Why Did BHO Seal All of His Records ?

..
What a load of superheated hot air.
..
Obama's message will be to stay in school, apply yourself
academically, work hard, and graduate.
And to explain the importance of washing hands to limit the spread of
H1N1 flu.
..
On Oct 1, 1991, Bush Senior also spoke to students. He made
statements such as ""Block out the kids who think it's not cool to be
smart," and "If someone goofs off today, are they cool? Are they
still cool years from now, when they're stuck in a dead end job. Don't
let peer pressure stand between you and your dreams.

The Washington Post was so outraged, that they wrote a front page
editorial against it. It lead to a Democrat investigation.
..
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-57694347.html

When Bush spoke to students, Democrats investigated, held hearings
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
09/08/09 7:11 AM EDT

The controversy over President Obama's speech to the nation's
schoolchildren will likely be over shortly after Obama speaks today at
Wakefield High School in Arlington, Virginia. But when President
George H.W. Bush delivered a similar speech on October 1, 1991, from
Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington DC, the controversy was
just beginning. Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not
only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General
Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned top
Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive hearing
on the issue.

Unlike the Obama speech, in 1991 most of the controversy came after,
not before, the president's school appearance. The day after Bush
spoke, the Washington Post published a front-page story suggesting the
speech was carefully staged for the president's political benefit.
"The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom
into a television studio and its students into props," the Post
reported.

With the Post article in hand, Democrats pounced. "The Department of
Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the
president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," said
Richard Gephardt, then the House Majority Leader. "And the president
should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera,
action.'"

Democrats did not stop with words. Rep. William Ford, then chairman of
the House Education and Labor Committee, ordered the General
Accounting Office to investigate the cost and legality of Bush's
appearance. On October 17, 1991, Ford summoned then-Education
Secretary Lamar Alexander and other top Bush administration officials
to testify at a hearing devoted to the speech. "The hearing this
morning is to really examine the expenditure of $26,750 of the
Department of Education funds to produce and televise an appearance by
President Bush at Alice Deal Junior High School in Washington, DC,"
Ford began. "As the chairman of the committee charged with the
authorization and implementation of education programs, I am very much
interested in the justification, rationale for giving the White House
scarce education funds to produce a media event."

Unfortunately for Ford, the General Accounting Office concluded that
the Bush administration had not acted improperly. "The speech itself
and the use of the department's funds to support it, including the
cost of the production contract, appear to be legal," the GAO wrote in
a letter to Chairman Ford. "The speech also does not appear to have
violated the restrictions on the use of appropriations for publicity
and propaganda."

That didn't stop Democratic allies from taking their own shots at
Bush. The National Education Association denounced the speech, saying
it "cannot endorse a president who spends $26,000 of taxpayers' money
on a staged media event at Alice Deal Junior High School in
Washington, D.C. -- while cutting school lunch funds for our neediest
youngsters."

Lost in all the denouncing and investigating was the fact that Bush's
speech itself, like Obama's today, was entirely unremarkable.

I am not a PHD, bUt I reckon I could order me a Fake paper thangy that
LQQks like a real sho nuff PHD.I don't wants sumpin likes that though.
cuhulin, not a PHD

On Sep 6, 10:50 pm, "Chas. Chan" wrote:
American news outlets (well at least those not in Barack Obama's lap)
are filled with criticism on the Department of Education plans to
bring Obama's agenda into our nation's classrooms. The ploy to reach
and teach our children through a presidential speech and through
instruction guides (little red books?) appears to be stalled for now
as parents -- if nor educational unions -- resist the idea of brain-
swaying our children into writing paeans to Obama and his agenda.


LOL I have heard it all, brainwashing american youth
to study hard, stay in school and be responsible.
Anyone taking you crackpots seriously should lose
their credibility.
A lot of people seem to be "getting stupid".

What you ninney's should fear is the irony of
your own initiatives. If you have been paying
attention, it is the party you love so dearly
that has been eroding america's freedoms.
The real enemy is never the one you
suspect.

On 9/8/09 16:25 , wrote:

The real enemy is never the one you
suspect.


Interesting you should say that.

D. Peter Maus wrote:
On 9/8/09 16:25 , wrote:

The real enemy is never the one you
suspect.


Interesting you should say that.



Them are us.