On Sep 7, 5:53*pm, Ross Archer wrote:

-Pahleeze spare us all your ignorance.

On Sep 6, 7:50*pm, "Chas. Chan" wrote:
American news outlets (well at least those not in Barack Obama's lap)
are filled with criticism on the Department of Education plans to
bring Obama's agenda into our nation's classrooms. The ploy to reach
and teach our children through a presidential speech and through
instruction guides (little red books?) appears to be stalled for now
as parents -- if nor educational unions -- resist the idea of brain-
swaying our children into writing paeans to Obama and his agenda.
However, few have wondered how such an idea ever emerged in the first
place. We do have some clues and they are unsettling.

I have previously reported that this idea of inculcating revolutionary
goals in our children's minds stems from the philosophy of Bill Ayers,
Obama's friend, collaborator, and campaign supporter. But Obama's
ideological mentors appear to reach farther back to an influential
radical Italian communist, Antonio Gramsci.

[...]

A cadre of like-minded educators and national service administrators
across the country share the same core commitment to transforming
themselves from imparters of knowledge to transformers of society. The
"change" agenda trains students to think only about what they should
do for Obama -- and rarely to contemplate how his powers and ambitions
should be limited and restrained.

[Bill] Ayers preached his education-as-"social justice" agenda to his
"comrades" at the World Education Forum in Caracas, Venezuela, three
years ago:

"This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of
my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring
fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the
Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms
underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President [Hugo]
Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of
revolution, and I've come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both
the Venezuelan and the international struggle -- I look forward to
seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of
capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and
deeply humane."

[...]

Who was Gramsci? *He was a leader of the Communist party of Italy who
called upon "intellectuals" to produce hegemony over society through
control of education; he viewed schools as an apparatus that radicals
can use to radicalize the young and turn them into communists. He had
a long-term approach, realizing that it may take years of a "long
march through institutions" to train a proper Communist.

Americans versed in Obama Studies may recognize the name of Gramsci.
He has inspired not just the tyrant of Caracas but also inspires the
man in the Oval Office.

[...]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...ing_bunch.html

So, now that the speech has been released and you were completely
wrong to accuse Obama of attempting brainwashing, an apology and
admission of error will be forthcoming.

Right?
Or are you not honorable enough?

On Sep 7, 5:51*pm, Ross Archer wrote:

Turns out you are absolutely wrong (as per usual.)

You were never right.

The text of the speech: *http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResou...SchoolRemarks/

In summary it says: *"Work hard in school. *Don't give up. *Just
because your circumstances are tough doesn't mean you don't have to
try. *Wash your *hands and stay home from school if you're sick this
winter to help control the spread of disease."

Radical, Communist stuff, yeah. *LOL


You obviously havn't read the initial draft from this narcisist.

P.S.: Obama's way smarter than you.

....and you!

On Sep 7, 5:56*pm, Ross Archer wrote:
On Sep 6, 7:50*pm, "Chas. Chan" wrote:





American news outlets (well at least those not in Barack Obama's lap)
are filled with criticism on the Department of Education plans to
bring Obama's agenda into our nation's classrooms. The ploy to reach
and teach our children through a presidential speech and through
instruction guides (little red books?) appears to be stalled for now
as parents -- if nor educational unions -- resist the idea of brain-
swaying our children into writing paeans to Obama and his agenda.
However, few have wondered how such an idea ever emerged in the first
place. We do have some clues and they are unsettling.

I have previously reported that this idea of inculcating revolutionary
goals in our children's minds stems from the philosophy of Bill Ayers,
Obama's friend, collaborator, and campaign supporter. But Obama's
ideological mentors appear to reach farther back to an influential
radical Italian communist, Antonio Gramsci.

[...]

A cadre of like-minded educators and national service administrators
across the country share the same core commitment to transforming
themselves from imparters of knowledge to transformers of society. The
"change" agenda trains students to think only about what they should
do for Obama -- and rarely to contemplate how his powers and ambitions
should be limited and restrained.

[Bill] Ayers preached his education-as-"social justice" agenda to his
"comrades" at the World Education Forum in Caracas, Venezuela, three
years ago:

"This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of
my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring
fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the
Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms
underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President [Hugo]
Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of
revolution, and I've come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both
the Venezuelan and the international struggle -- I look forward to
seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of
capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and
deeply humane."

[...]

Who was Gramsci? *He was a leader of the Communist party of Italy who
called upon "intellectuals" to produce hegemony over society through
control of education; he viewed schools as an apparatus that radicals
can use to radicalize the young and turn them into communists. He had
a long-term approach, realizing that it may take years of a "long
march through institutions" to train a proper Communist.

Americans versed in Obama Studies may recognize the name of Gramsci.
He has inspired not just the tyrant of Caracas but also inspires the
man in the Oval Office.

[...]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...ing_bunch.html

So, now that the speech has been released and you were completely
wrong to accuse Obama of attempting brainwashing, an apology and
admission of error will be forthcoming.

Right?
Or are you not honorable enough?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Kiss our asses! Bend over for 0baMa0's DiK!

Ross Archer wrote:

On Sep 7, 2:28 am, dxAce wrote:
Ross Archer wrote:
On Sep 6, 7:50 pm, "Chas. Chan" wrote:
American news outlets (well at least those not in Barack Obama's lap)
are filled with criticism on the Department of Education plans to
bring Obama's agenda into our nation's classrooms. The ploy to reach
and teach our children through a presidential speech and through
instruction guides (little red books?) appears to be stalled for now
as parents -- if nor educational unions -- resist the idea of brain-
swaying our children into writing paeans to Obama and his agenda.
However, few have wondered how such an idea ever emerged in the first
place. We do have some clues and they are unsettling.

I have previously reported that this idea of inculcating revolutionary
goals in our children's minds stems from the philosophy of Bill Ayers,
Obama's friend, collaborator, and campaign supporter. But Obama's
ideological mentors appear to reach farther back to an influential
radical Italian communist, Antonio Gramsci.

[...]

A cadre of like-minded educators and national service administrators
across the country share the same core commitment to transforming
themselves from imparters of knowledge to transformers of society. The
"change" agenda trains students to think only about what they should
do for Obama -- and rarely to contemplate how his powers and ambitions
should be limited and restrained.

[Bill] Ayers preached his education-as-"social justice" agenda to his
"comrades" at the World Education Forum in Caracas, Venezuela, three
years ago:

"This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of
my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring
fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the
Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms
underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President [Hugo]
Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of
revolution, and I've come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both
the Venezuelan and the international struggle -- I look forward to
seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of
capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and
deeply humane."

[...]

Who was Gramsci? He was a leader of the Communist party of Italy who
called upon "intellectuals" to produce hegemony over society through
control of education; he viewed schools as an apparatus that radicals
can use to radicalize the young and turn them into communists. He had
a long-term approach, realizing that it may take years of a "long
march through institutions" to train a proper Communist.

Americans versed in Obama Studies may recognize the name of Gramsci.
He has inspired not just the tyrant of Caracas but also inspires the
man in the Oval Office.

[...]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...ing_bunch.html

What a load of superheated hot air.

Obama's message will be to stay in school, apply yourself
academically, work hard, and graduate.
And to explain the importance of washing hands to limit the spread of
H1N1 flu.

There's no evidence in the man's past speeches or behavior to indicate
any rational reason for concern that Barack Obama's speech will be any
more slanted or political than when Ronald Reagan or George H. W. Bush
spoke to school children.

This "indoctrination" nonsense is paranoia and crazy lunatic fringe
talk, pure and simple.

Obama is full of nonsense. The people whom Obama has surrounded himself with
are full of nonsense. You are full of nonsense.



Get used it it: America has moved back towards the political center.

If Obama has moved towards the political center then I guess it's time for me
to go outside at dawn and watch those pigs fly.

Turns out you are absolutely wrong (as per usual.)
The text of the speech: http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResou...SchoolRemarks/

In summary it says: "Work hard in school. Don't give up. Just
because your circumstances are tough doesn't mean you don't have to
try. Wash your hands and stay home from school if you're sick this
winter to help control the spread of disease."

Radical, Communist stuff, yeah. LOL

P.S.: Obama's way smarter than you.

Well, he's certainly a 'way smarter' Marxist/Socialist!

dxAce
Michigan
USA

On Sep 7, 2:51*pm, "~ RHF" wrote:
On Sep 6, 11:40*pm, Ross Archer wrote:



On Sep 6, 7:50*pm, "Chas. Chan" wrote:

American news outlets (well at least those not in Barack Obama's lap)
are filled with criticism on the Department of Education plans to
bring Obama's agenda into our nation's classrooms. The ploy to reach
and teach our children through a presidential speech and through
instruction guides (little red books?) appears to be stalled for now
as parents -- if nor educational unions -- resist the idea of brain-
swaying our children into writing paeans to Obama and his agenda.
However, few have wondered how such an idea ever emerged in the first
place. We do have some clues and they are unsettling.

I have previously reported that this idea of inculcating revolutionary
goals in our children's minds stems from the philosophy of Bill Ayers,
Obama's friend, collaborator, and campaign supporter. But Obama's
ideological mentors appear to reach farther back to an influential
radical Italian communist, Antonio Gramsci.

[...]

A cadre of like-minded educators and national service administrators
across the country share the same core commitment to transforming
themselves from imparters of knowledge to transformers of society. The
"change" agenda trains students to think only about what they should
do for Obama -- and rarely to contemplate how his powers and ambitions
should be limited and restrained.

[Bill] Ayers preached his education-as-"social justice" agenda to his
"comrades" at the World Education Forum in Caracas, Venezuela, three
years ago:

"This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of
my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring
fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the
Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms
underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President [Hugo]
Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of
revolution, and I've come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both
the Venezuelan and the international struggle -- I look forward to
seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of
capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and
deeply humane."

[...]

Who was Gramsci? *He was a leader of the Communist party of Italy who
called upon "intellectuals" to produce hegemony over society through
control of education; he viewed schools as an apparatus that radicals
can use to radicalize the young and turn them into communists. He had
a long-term approach, realizing that it may take years of a "long
march through institutions" to train a proper Communist.

Americans versed in Obama Studies may recognize the name of Gramsci.
He has inspired not just the tyrant of Caracas but also inspires the
man in the Oval Office.

[...]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...ing_bunch.html

What a load of superheated hot air.

Obama's message will be to stay in school, apply yourself
academically, work hard, and graduate.
And to explain the importance of washing hands to limit the spread of
H1N1 flu.

There's no evidence in the man's past speeches or behavior to indicate
any rational reason for concern that Barack Obama's speech will be any
more slanted or political than when Ronald Reagan or George H. W. Bush
spoke to school children.

This "indoctrination" nonsense is *paranoia and crazy lunatic fringe
talk, pure and simple.

Get used it it: *America has moved back towards the political center.

Prez {Socialist} Obama is the 'political center'.

The Obama-Regime's© CZARS using Liberal-Fascist
Methods and Techniques is the 'political center'.

ROTFL - oaoa ~ RHF
*.
Oops Prez Obama's Obama-Cation© Day !
? Is It Getting "All Wee-Wee'd Up !" ?http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...ab7ffd59979bf6
*.
Living In O-Bomb-Merica© -was- This Aint America No Morehttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/d5bda9babf5563f0
*.
just say 'no' to obama-munism© {liberal-fascism}
-and- pledge a 'yes' to america's freedoms for all ~ RHF
*.
*.

Actually, yes. Polls show he's much closer to the political center
than Bush was.

Probably why he won the election. It's not as if his policies were
secret or unknown to the voters.

You need to examine your broken political meter. Hint: Bush - as
far right as we've ever had and ever will have, Clinton, Obama-
annoyingly centrist.

That's how it really is.

OUR GOAL, OUT OF OFFICE A.S.A.P.
www.newswithviews.org/Wallace/andrew119.htm

A.S.A.P.
As Soon As Possible!
cuhulin

On Sep 7, 5:51 pm, Ross Archer wrote:

The text of the speech:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResou...SchoolRemarks/

In summary it says: "Work hard in school. Don't give up. Just
because your circumstances are tough doesn't mean you don't have to
try. Wash your hands and stay home from school if you're sick
this winter to help control the spread of disease."

Radical, Communist stuff, yeah. LOL

N∅ ∅baMa∅ wrote:

You obviously havn't read the initial draft from this narcisist.

Just what, pray tell, does the 'initial' draft have to do with anything?
And by the way, you seem to have "conveniently" forgotten to cite a URL
for this supposed initial draft.

* The speech he is to give (*with* URL cited above) is basically saying
"Stay in school, do well, don't quit". Are you against that? And telling
kids to "stay in school" makes him a "narcissist"? You are one strange duck.

* Laura Bush is for Obama's speech -- and she said that her
father-in-law, George H. W. Bush gave virtually the same speech to
school kids. How odd that I don't recall you whining about that.

The only conclusion that we can draw is that YOU seem to be either a
sore loser, a racist or at best, a paranoid kooktard. Maybe even "All of
the above".

Yesteryday, I gots them two plywood doors for my old trailer hinged and
hung, they looks beautimus,,, iffen I does say so meself.

Tahday, I am fixin my old two wheels (it has two large solid tires wire
spoke wHeels, y'all have all seen them thar kinds of wHeels before,
abouts twenty/twenty four inches diameter wHeels) yard cart with some of
teh leftover plywood I have, pressure treated plywood, it T'IS.

wHen I gits done with fixin my old yard cart, iT's ahhgonna be stronger
and also better than brand spankin nEw! iT will also be heavier tQQ, but
tHats A OK with mE.

Get Kelp!
cuhulin

Now that President Obama has given his speech to the school children,
it is obvious why the Republicans were so adamantly opposed to it.
President Obama was clearly trying to indoctrinate the students with
those liberal values that are hated so much by the Republicans: hard
work, perserverance, fair play, etc.