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On Sep 11, 5:05*pm, dave wrote:
dxAce wrote:

dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. *****ing embarrassment. *Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.

Funny, as it would seem most of their work and practice took place during your
'tard boy Clinton's watch. Was he napping or fooling around with interns?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

As I recall Clinton was being distracted by an insane witch hunt.
Regardless, Bush had dozens of very specific warnings and did nothing.

Did nothing.- Hide quoted text -

****MANY**** people did nothing Dave, there is
plenty of blame to go around. The part that just leaves me shaking my
head is that IMO, this country
is no more better prepared than it was on 9-11.

On Sep 11, 5:14*pm, dave wrote:
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 11, 2:20 pm, dave wrote:
Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.
A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. *****ing embarrassment. *Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.

Well Dave, lets not go that far, though I understand
what you're saying.

I feel it goes/went much deeper than freeking Bush.
I wonder if something happens during Obama's
admin. if the reactions will still be to blame Bush.

Sooner or later the blame game on Bush has to stop.

Why were these guys allowed to fly?

"Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari check in at the US Airways counter
at Portland International Jetport Airport. [Portland Press Herald,
10/5/2001; Federal Bureau of Investigation, 10/14/2001] They are wearing
ties and jackets. Atta checks in two bags, Alomari

*******rest snipped********

Dave, I have to be somewhat careful what I say and how I say it in
here. Much of what happened, at its
very origin started here in Cincinnati and I will leave
it at that.

People, for fear of being labeled a racist or trying to
start trouble are ignored when ones in the know tell
their superiors "that something isn't right here."

It is much easier to say " don't worry about it".... or "you're
getting a little carried away."

Some of those pilots actually got their first taste
of simply flying a plane, not worrying about landing
a plane mind you, but flying a plane here in the Nati' and IMO it was
either ignored or no one cared.

Bushcraftgregg wrote:

****MANY**** people did nothing Dave, there is
plenty of blame to go around. The part that just leaves me shaking my
head is that IMO, this country
is no more better prepared than it was on 9-11.

It was not Mr. Bush's prerogative to do nothing. Read the time line.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeli..._9/11=warnings

Bob Dobbs wrote:
Bushcraftgregg wrote:

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Sooner or later the blame game on Bush has to stop.

Maybe will when his multitude of egregious blunders is surpassed by
those of someone else, until then he gets blamed for all the **** he
either caused or allowed to happen.

It will be interesting because make no mistake
about it, the next disaster is going to make 9-11
look like a 4th of July Fireworks Show.

The Manhattan Air Show will be a tough act to follow,
what you guys got in mind?

Our health system kills as many people each year as six "9-11"s. On the
first night of Shock and Awe we killed 2,700 innocent Iraqis easy.

On Sep 11, 6:22*pm, dave wrote:
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
****MANY**** people did nothing Dave, there is
plenty of blame to go around. The part that just leaves me shaking my
head is that IMO, this country
is no more better prepared than it was on 9-11.

It was not Mr. Bush's prerogative to do nothing. Read the time line.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeli...plete_911_time....

Dave, I have read everything that can/could possibly
be read about the subject, not to be a prick or anything but I can
promise you I have read more
about that day than you. Just saying.

Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 11, 6:22 pm, dave wrote:
Bushcraftgregg wrote:
****MANY**** people did nothing Dave, there is
plenty of blame to go around. The part that just leaves me shaking my
head is that IMO, this country
is no more better prepared than it was on 9-11.
It was not Mr. Bush's prerogative to do nothing. Read the time line.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeli...plete_911_time...

Dave, I have read everything that can/could possibly
be read about the subject, not to be a prick or anything but I can
promise you I have read more
about that day than you. Just saying.

I acknowledge that I am no scholar nor expert on the matter, but these
people ignored the experts and did nothing.

"Between August 6 and September 11, 2001: No High-Level Meetings to
Discuss ‘Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US’ Memo
Edit event

The Bush administration holds no high-level meetings prior to 9/11 to
discuss the ‘Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US’ Presidential Daily
Briefing (PDB) given to President Bush on August 6, 2001 (see August 6,
2001). Counterterrorism “tsar” Richard Clarke will later suggest that
9/11 might have been stopped “if [National Security Adviser] Rice and
the president had acted personally, gotten involved, shaken the trees,
gotten the Cabinet members involved when they had ample warning in June
and July and August that something was about to happen.… [Rice] said
that the president received 40 warnings face to face from the director
of central intelligence that a major al-Qaeda attack was going to take
place and she admitted that the president did not have a meeting on the
subject, did not convene the Cabinet. She admitted that she didn’t
convene the Cabinet. And as some of the [9/11 Commissioners] pointed
out, this was in marked contrast to the way the government operated in
December of 1999, when it had similar information and it successfully
thwarted attacks.” [ABC News, 4/8/2004] Former CIA official Larry
Johnson will similarly comment, “At a minimum, the details in the 6
August PDB should have motivated Rice to convene a principals’ meeting.
Such a meeting would have ensured that all members of the president’s
national security team were aware of the information that had been
shared with the president. George Bush should have directed the
different department heads to report back within one week on any
information relevant to the al-Qaeda threat. Had he done this there is a
high probability that the FBI field agents concerns about Arabs taking
flight training would have rung some bells. There is also a high
probability that the operations folks at CIA would have shared the
information they had in hand about the presence of al-Qaeda operators in
the United States.” [Tom Paine (.com), 4/12/2004] There will be one
cabinet-level principals meeting to discuss terrorism on September 4,
2001, but no evidence has been released suggesting the PDB or the
possibility of al-Qaeda attacking the US was discussed (see September 4,
2001).

Entity Tags: Condoleezza Rice, Richard A. Clarke, George W. Bush, Larry
C. Johnson

Timeline Tags: 9/11 Timeline

Category Tags: Counterterrorism Policy/Politics, Bush's Aug. 6, 2001
PDB, Presidential Level Warnings, Warning Signs
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http://www.historycommons.org/timeli...level_warnings

(OT) : This 9/11 Pray for the Safety of the USA and All Americans

On Sep 11, 1:59*pm, Bushcraftgregg wrote:
On Sep 11, 2:20*pm, dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. *****ing embarrassment. *Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.

Well Dave, lets not go that far, though I understand
what you're saying.

- I feel it goes/went much deeper than freeking Bush.
- I wonder if something happens during Obama's
- admin. if the reactions will still be to blame Bush.

What ever 'happens' during Obama's Presidency will
be BLAMED ON BUSH by the Obama-Regime©
and the Obama-Media-Shills©.

praise be the obama,
Praise Be The Obama.
PRAISE BE THE OBAMA !

(OT) : This 9/11 Pray for the Safety of the USA and AllAmericans

Check out what I wrote and their responses in the alt.horology
newsgroper.
cuhulin

(OT) : This 9/11 Pray for the Safety of the USA and All Americans

Better you should listen to
"20-Minutes with the President"
http://www.prisonplanet.com/twenty-m...president.html
-by- Charlie Sheen
.
Prez Obama you pledged Transparent Government Operations :
So that the US Citizens would know the Truth
-so- Prez Obama Answer Charlie Sheen's Questions
and Give the American People "The Truth" about 9/11.

Over the edge completely goes Mr. Roy Fisk, of Twain (one of America's
greatest atheists) Harte, California USA.

In article ,
dxAce wrote:

dave wrote:

Gregg wrote:
The History Channel is the place to be
on this somber day. All day is going to
be great shows.

A couple dozen crazies bring empire to its knees with boxcutters and
maxxed-out credit cards. ****ing embarrassment. Bush should be
punished for getting caught napping.

Funny, as it would seem most of their work and practice took place during your
'tard boy Clinton's watch. Was he napping or fooling around with interns?

dxAce
Michigan
USA

Anyone interested in a factual telling of what was done to keep us
safe in the 90s to 9/11 can read Chapter 6 of the 9/11 Comission
Report. (About 50 pages)

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Clinton tried lots of things. For many reasons, most out of his
control, they didn't work. he *did* keep us safe dueing the attacks of
the millinium new year but we don't hear about them becuase they were
foiled. Was he perfect? Far from it.

The Bush Administration just pushed reorganization memos until the
first scheduled terrorism meeting; Sept 4, 2001 Literally. They
ignored the 50+ threat warnings that the FBI knew of in their branch
offices as of the Summer of 2001 but the FBI had no national analysis
capability and the Bush Administration ever asked them to do it.

See The Comission report (2004) and updated by Amy Zegert in
Spying Blind: The CIA, the FBI, and the Origins of 9/11 (2007)

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Al Dykes
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